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Why Are Record Numbers Of Young Adults Jobless And Living At Home With Mom And Dad?
The Economic Collapse ^ | 02/14/2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 02/14/2012 9:00:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
I wonder if this is the reason why we are using a lot less gas, given I haven't noticed any of those Volts and Leafs on the road.

The numbers.

81 posted on 02/14/2012 12:17:38 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: sten
why so many young ‘adults’ are living at home is simple... they don’t have the tools with which to compete.

Those tools are brain cells and schools don't hand them out, only determine who has them. Most people need to compete in their league, not the majors, if they want to win on occasion. We can look to sports for a model that works: women do not compete against men, little league does not compete against kids 2 feet taller, high schoolers do not compete against pros. We should form leagues in life, cultivate success, and graduate those that are ready to compete in the next level. To work a league needs protection, rules of exclusion, that prevent non-native species from taking over that ecosystem. For example, a city like Detroit could fence off their city and ban cheap Chinese imports. Soon the locals would be working again. They would be paying more for products, but they would have jobs they could successfully compete in and pay for the purchases themselves. They would also be much happier. It's human nature to want to compete and win, but who plays when they always lose?

82 posted on 02/14/2012 12:19:07 PM PST by Reeses
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To: discostu
Then I moved up to the point in life where you get to hire people. That’s when I learned the truth.

About a year ago, I had to hire someone for a part-time (29 hour) job on my team. I started getting emails from someone who had, a few years earlier, been a Sr. VP in another division. Now, apart from the fact that she had no experience in the specific skills I was looking for, there was no way I was going to hire someone who once far outranked me in the company. And the HR people didn't even put her on the short list of people to be interviewed. I ended up hiring someone who was coming off an internship with another unit in my division and for whom this job was the next logical step in her career.

83 posted on 02/14/2012 12:22:52 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Good choice, that would be worse than the usual overqualified candidate, somebody used to being in charge in that company would just be a nightmare.


84 posted on 02/14/2012 12:30:13 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel
In order to climb the ladder, you have to get on the first rung

The first rung is now taken by illegals in many fields, especially in jobs that don't require any college. Minimum wage protection does keep businesses from hiring as many employees as some would hire without it, but illegals have taken all the first jobs.

First illegals came to pick crops- and most said that is fine; then they came to tend livestock, construction, hotel/motel, food industries...and are now in mid-level management and even own some businesses that they worked their way into by taking jobs from citizens.

The whole time this has been happening we are told it is ok, because we don't need those jobs- we are all going to have tech jobs, easier jobs, better jobs- we are too good to do those jobs is our government propaganda. How is that working out for our young adults that are trying to get on that first rung to work up?

85 posted on 02/14/2012 12:37:42 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: jagusafr
I disagree with your premise

You run from reality real fast.

There are probably 45 million young work age people and you suggest they all get two jobs?

Ya think there are 90 million jobs out there for these young folks? Come on.

Ya think young people in their 20s or 30s working at McDonald's can make enough to live on their own and some rented apartment or home and afford all that?

Come on.

86 posted on 02/14/2012 12:48:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mmmm, let me think here.

Tons of young men. Unemployment so high that they feel helpless and hopeless.

And a lot of them have guns. And more guns are being sold every damn day.

THAT is not a good combination anywhere, any time.

Obama better pay attention. This type of environment has lead to revolution, war, and a whole host of other bad things over the past twenty centuries or so.

Ask Mubarak. Ask the Shah. Ask that German President before Hitler became chancellor.


87 posted on 02/14/2012 12:52:38 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

College kids sending out resumes is perhaps the least likely way they are going to get jobs. Sad to say, but the first job is usually the result of the same method millions of others get jobs: networking.

The best advice to give these kids who cannot find even a crappy job is to start volunteering. All around.

You never know when you are going to stumble across that kid’s parent who is looking for exactly YOUR kid for a job at work.

Resumes get shredded.

I know. I used to shred them. After laughing at the typos.


88 posted on 02/14/2012 12:56:09 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

College kids sending out resumes is perhaps the least likely way they are going to get jobs. Sad to say, but the first job is usually the result of the same method millions of others get jobs: networking.

The best advice to give these kids who cannot find even a crappy job is to start volunteering. All around.

You never know when you are going to stumble across that kid’s parent who is looking for exactly YOUR kid for a job at work.

Resumes get shredded.

I know. I used to shred them. After laughing at the typos.


89 posted on 02/14/2012 12:56:42 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Young people should look for any job that pays money and buy basic insurance on the private market.

Funny joke. There are millions in their 30s 40s 50s and up who now have *zero* health insurance. And you suggest young people are going to purchase health insurance, rent a house or apartment while working at some entry level job delivering pizzas or something?

Come on.

I know a young guy who could not afford heath insurance, after having his employer benefits stripped, and a simple broken collarbone cost him $4800. He figures it will cost him 3 to 4 years just to pay that off.

90 posted on 02/14/2012 1:06:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

And tens of thousands of parents out think it is not their fault even though they never told little Johnny not to go for that degree in Social Feminist English Literature Studies Education. But hey, if you let the public school do all your parenting for you, why stop when it comes time to give them advice on jobs and life? Aren’t their guidance councilors or something at that public school? Sure. They will take care of teaching you kid to be a functional adult. What could go wrong? I am sure that lack of a job thing is totally someone else fault. Probably the economy. Nothing whatever to do with bad parenting.


91 posted on 02/14/2012 1:58:46 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: discostu
I learned a long time ago how to manipulate and use HR people. If I need a job, I'll get it. If no college is needed then that's off the resume. It's jerks like you that cause this kind of mess. I have no problem dumbing down my quals and experience if I need a job.

During the first recession in 1981 I had the college resume and the dumb resume. It isn't hard to figure out which one to use. I meet a meat brain like you I know what to do.

92 posted on 02/14/2012 4:39:38 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ctdonath2

Being overqualified implies that the person by definition is also qualified too. So what you are saying is you have a QUALIFIED person willing to work for the wages offered but you refuse to hire them. I think there is a small place in hell for people like you. Somebody who is qualified, hell YOU DEEMED THEM OVERQUALIFIED, needs work. Is willing to accept the wages and is turned down by a loser like you. How humiliating. A democrat is formed every time that happens.


93 posted on 02/14/2012 4:46:14 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; discostu

Since you have elaborated and given a little work history, it does sound like you know a lot about looking for work, and have developed tricks and a talent for talking yourself into new, low quality jobs that don’t last.

On the other hand maybe you didn’t fool all those HR people and “meat brains” after all.


94 posted on 02/14/2012 5:14:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe ‘cause Mom and Dad were guilty of overindulgence and making the kids believe they’re entitled to the good life without working for it.

The spoiled rotten, lazy applicants my husband often interviews for jobs are unbelievable. One guy with his brand new PhD asked him, “Would I really have to work 40 hours a week?” DH answered, “If you’re lucky, you’ll ONLY have to work 40 hours a week.”


95 posted on 02/14/2012 5:21:33 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Democrats = Incompetence

Republicans = Incompetence

If they were at all competent, there would have been more than smoke-and-mirrors from Fast and Furious... that is people would be in jail, or dead*, for their participation therein.

* Treason is still punishable by death; all one needs to do to make F&F Treason is prove that the Mexican drug-cartels are enemies of the States.

96 posted on 02/14/2012 6:06:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: discostu
These kids were bums before the economy turned south. They don’t want jobs, they aren’t looking for jobs, so the job market doesn’t really impact them.

That might be true for some; but I got my first "real job"* about a year ago. I put out a LOT of applications and got few responses; it was actually pleasantly surprising when I got an actual "we're sorry" letter simply because it showed more responsiveness/cost than the "we're sorry" e-mails. This job was actually the only one that I got that showed serious interest in picking me up as an employee.

Now, you'd be quite right to ask what sort of degree I have; so I'll tell you -- a bachelors in Computer Science... and it only took me a decade to get it (got deployed a couple times, that busted several semesters), but I got it with no loans so that puts me ahead of the game.

* By "real job" I mean a job in the private sector which was not obtained a) in part because of my social connections & b) not school or government funded.

The most it does is give them an excuse during the occasional parental tongue-lashing. And it’s not like they’d be qualified for anything but a menial job, they haven’t gone to any kind of schooling, they’ve developed no skills outside of Playstation. Part of having no responsibility means having no reason to become qualified for a job.

I tried applying for those 'menial jobs' in the last several summers before graduating; there was NOTHING. (Though I did get a job one summer with a man from my church doing landscaping.)

So, while I'm sure there are people who could get a job if they wanted; I'm not sure that there are as many jobs as you might like.

97 posted on 02/14/2012 6:34:05 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: elcid1970

I hear ya, we are seeing first hand what they will do, it is happening in Greece and is coming here very soon, As soon as the weather warms up watch out, they got some big plans and they are not very pretty.


98 posted on 02/14/2012 7:01:57 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Baynative
Have you ever seen a recent grad try to fill out a resume? Many can't spell or articulate their thoughts. The majority don't know the difference between "there and their" or, "your and you're".

Have you noticed that many Freepers have the same problem?

And I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of posters on various sites I have read who understand that "it's" is not the spelling of the possessive pronoun.

99 posted on 02/14/2012 7:39:59 PM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: ansel12
Since you have elaborated and given a little work history, it does sound like you know a lot about looking for work, and have developed tricks and a talent for talking yourself into new, low quality jobs that don’t last.

I make $170K/year now. There have been lean times/years when I had to work in overqualified postions for meat brains like you. Such is life. If I want a job I can get a job, the BS HR people won't stop me.

100 posted on 02/15/2012 3:48:13 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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