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Baby death from shopping cart accident serves as warning
Yahoo! ^ | September 28, 2011 | The_Stir Parenting

Posted on 04/01/2012 4:50:49 PM PDT by Altariel

aybe it's the culture in Los Angeles, but every time I go to a different grocery store, there are so many options for children in the grocery cart, I wonder what's next: A teenager cart equipped with an Xbox? I've seen infant seats, booster seats, plastic cars that fit two toddlers or big kids attached to the front of the cart, and carts that have a traditional seat that fits two kids instead of one.

But even with all of these options, we can never be too safe when it comes to putting our children on top of a shopping cart, where the risk of falling exists. Sadly, a mom in Macon, Georgia learned this lesson in the most tragic way when her baby fell from the top of the shopping cart onto the ground and died.

Clearly all of the above options weren't available at the local Kroger's, as the 3-month-old was in her own car seat seat, balanced on top of the shopping cart. As a friend, and Kroger employee, pushed the cart over a speed bump, the infant seat fell to the ground, killing the newborn. It makes you pause when you think of how many times babies fall off a bed or a changing table, and be thankful this wasn't you.

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KEYWORDS: baby; childrearing; parenting; shoppingcart
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To: freedumb2003
I did a couple of things that I shudder about now, 30 yrs later...

people are human, and we all make mis judgements...miscalculations....

41 posted on 04/01/2012 6:25:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: USAF80

Agreed - we slept with all of our babies, and the nurses, etc. all said the same thing. If you aren’t drinking or on meds you’ll know!

Although a buddy of mine has vague memories of a nanny of his that would lay down on the bed, with him wedged in between her and the wall while she drank herself into a stupper watching TV!


42 posted on 04/01/2012 6:34:38 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Altariel

Horrible tragedy.....this mom has to live, if she can, with the guilt of this accident the rest of her life.....note to self.....don’t be afraid to speak up if we can prevent a potential accident.....prayers for all who loved this child......


43 posted on 04/01/2012 6:35:10 PM PDT by Kimmers (Pray more and shoot straight.........)
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To: papertyger

>>It’s not that the free pass women have gotten all these years, when it comes to children, is finally coming under fire: it’s that conservativism has degraded....<<

So, what is the free pass here? The mistake by the mom or your making hay out of it?

This isn’t “free pass” territory. She didn’t drive her kid into a lake or drop him from a bridge. This was a flat-out huge mistake, bad judgement (probably from being raised from a “me first” perspective).

OK, tell us exactly how this was a “female get a pass.” Can you site a similar situation where a man made the same mistake and was prosecuted?

Awaiting links...


44 posted on 04/01/2012 6:52:22 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Kimmers
.....this mom has to live, if she can, with the guilt of this accident the rest of her life.....

Somehow, I doubt that will be a problem.

I'm reminded of the young couple my wife and I observed in a Target once.

The infant the mom was carrying began to choke, and the two of them began arguing over why the mom let baby have a skittle.

They continued to argue as I held out my hand for the child to begin baby Heimlich compressions.

They continued to argue as the skittle popped out.

They continued to argue as I wordlessly handed the baby back to the mother.

And they continued to argue as they walked away, baby in arm, without even acknowledging our existence.

To this day it was probably the most surreal experience of my life.

45 posted on 04/01/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: Kimmers

Agreed. If this mother does not know Christ, I pray she will come to know Him as He comforts her.


46 posted on 04/01/2012 6:54:32 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: papertyger

Things are the same here - it’s most important who wins the argument, or else who has the last word!


47 posted on 04/01/2012 6:56:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: papertyger; Secret Agent Man

Not this pro life woman. However, just because some women kill their children on purpose does not mean that every child that dies is the fault (purposeful) of the mother.

Accidents do happen especially when you throw in sleep deprivation/exhaustion and hormones which makes you fuzzy brained.

In this case, we don’t have enough facts. If this was a purposeful killing, the friend and mom would have had to conspire since it was the friend pushing the cart. Some car seats do not fit the shopping carts or maybe she thought she had it secured. And whoever was wondering where the mother was and what she was doing? Did you never need help with a newborn? Did you never leave your child with a sitter or shop with a friend or relative? Maybe the mother was right there and the friend was helping the mother to the car with her groceries.

Secret Agent Man’s intial comments were inflammatory which is why he got the responses he did. His comment doesn’t allow for the possiblity of an accident ever happening.

It is also true that women that kill their children on purpose do not receive any where near the punishment a father would receive if any at all. That is a gross micarriage of justice and I think it needs to change. Please remember though that intent has to be proven which may be why the women in your area are not being charged.


48 posted on 04/01/2012 7:00:57 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: freedumb2003
So, what is the free pass here?

The entire "tragic mistake" canard.

Can you site a similar situation where a man made the same mistake and was prosecuted?

Sure: Every time a kid gets hurt by getting access to a Father's guns. And it's even MORE negligent on her part because she was physically present at the time whereas dads get prosecuted for not making their inherently deadly weapons, childproof.

49 posted on 04/01/2012 7:05:56 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Too many inner-city women where I live kill their kids by rolling over them while sleeping.”

Too many inner-city women where I live keep their babies alive, and then teach them to fake disabilities in school, so that they can get a paycheck. Your statement is false.


50 posted on 04/01/2012 7:11:01 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Revolting cat!

While I understand what you mean, isn’t the whole reason for “winning the argument” or “getting the last word” simply the tactic used to deny admitting I’m wrong and my opponent’s right?

Isn’t it just a refusal to concede I lost the argument?


51 posted on 04/01/2012 7:16:07 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: papertyger

>>Sure: Every time a kid gets hurt by getting access to a Father’s guns. <<

Strawmen look terrible wearing Conservative garb.

I ask again: tell me when a man was accused of killing his child by leaving it improperly attended in a shopping cart. Please include links — you didn’t even bother to supply links to your strawman, so I am not holding out hopes to support of the actual situation to which you lay claim.


52 posted on 04/01/2012 7:20:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Anyone THAT fuzzy brained, knows it.

If this is a mistake, it’s a mistake the way drunk driving is a mistake. I.e. no excuse.


53 posted on 04/01/2012 7:21:48 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: papertyger

>>If this is a mistake, it’s a mistake the way drunk driving is a mistake. I.e. no excuse<<

So they put the child in the cart, knowing they were unable to manage the cart. Then they continued on, and missed the bump in the parking lot because their brain was unable to comprehend the situation before them in an immediate fashion, thus resulting in the drop from the cart.

Just how many strawmen do you have in that “cart” of yours?

If you are going with analogies, at least make them of the same general properties.


54 posted on 04/01/2012 7:25:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: freedumb2003

What crap.

You’re going to pull the “gagging at gnats” card, now?

Thanks for demonstrating my point by playing the “outhouse attorney.”


55 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:32 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: papertyger

>>You’re going to pull the “gagging at gnats” card, now?<<

IOW, you don’t have an answer.

As I and almost everyone else watching this thread already knew.


56 posted on 04/01/2012 7:28:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: papertyger

I am left speechless.......wow....


57 posted on 04/01/2012 7:29:13 PM PDT by Kimmers (Pray more and shoot straight.........)
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To: freedumb2003

Then I guess you are proving my point that she couldn’t have been that impaired, huh.

Thanks.


58 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:35 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: freedumb2003

Oh, I gave you an answer.

It just wasn’t the one you pre-loaded to allow yourself no possibility of being proven wrong.

And frankly, I’m more than satisfied for those watching this thread to see how you tried to “game” the argument.


59 posted on 04/01/2012 7:37:59 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: papertyger

>>Then I guess you are proving my point that she couldn’t have been that impaired, huh.<<

I see Non Sequiturs are in your arsenal as well.

It doesn’t so much bother me you are embarrassing you. But this is a publicly viewable forum and you are embarrassing us.

Either construct a logical argument or just stop.

Really.


60 posted on 04/01/2012 7:40:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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