"..well, at least we know who not to follow in a fire"
Posted on 04/05/2012 1:34:05 PM PDT by T-Bird45
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has sent a memo to all 32 teams threatening "significant discipline" to anyone caught leaking confidential information gathered on draft prospects to the public.
The Associated Press obtained the memo, which was sent on Wednesday night after reports that LSU defensive back Morris Claiborne allegedly scored poorly on the Wonderlic test. The exam is used by NFL teams to try to gauge a prospect's intelligence, problem-solving ability and cognitive skills.
Claiborne scored a 4 out of 50 on the test administered at the NFL scouting combine in February, sources confirmed to ESPN.
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I heard Claiborne was given a pop-up book for his playbook.
'Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., says, "A score of 10 is literacy, that's about all we can say."'
Unless you are a Conservative taking a Liberal qualification test....that's bad.
"..well, at least we know who not to follow in a fire"
Did you know that Tom Landry was the first to use it to evaluate players?
Vince Young is somewhere smiling.....
From my experience, intelligence means jack squat. You’re not looking for Stephen Hawking here.
You take the top 22 Wonderlic Test Takers at every position, and I’ll take the bottom 22 and let’s see who wins.
It’s not really informative on anything. Most of the wonderlic score is speed, you can be really well educated but slow to answer and score for crap.
That may actually make the test more applicable for football, where the ability to quickly make good decisions is critical.
Why do players take these things? They may be a good predictor, I don’t know. I did hear Frank Gore scored, like, a 4 on it. A score, anyway, you’d expect to be able to top by answering every question with “C.” I also know the highest score in the history of my local team, the Vikings, was by an offensive lineman. Not traditionally considered a skill position.
I suppose it may be one of those “one consideration among many”s. But let’s say you had two players who were about equal in position necessity for the unique needs of your team, ability, personality, readily apparent intelligence, “coachability,” PR smoothness, and potential criminality. Do you honestly think a Wonderlic score would break the tie? I don’t. So who needs it?
“That may actually make the test more applicable for football, where the ability to quickly make good decisions is critical.”
The ability to make quick physical decisions, you mean. As in, hand-eye coordination, muscle memory, instinct for when people are about to hit you from behind, etc. Not your ability to quickly answer 2+2.
Except it’s not really testing decisions, it’s testing recall and logic under speed pressure. I understand why they do it, drafting players is a huge financial investment and the future of their very valuable franchises in many ways rests on getting the right 7 guys so they’re going to throw everything they can at the guys to try to garner than one nugget of information that says go or no go. But the history shows there’s really no correlation between the wonderlic and success in the NFL. Dan Marino and Vince Young got the exact same score, that’s really all anybody needs to know.
>>offensive lineman. Not traditionally considered a skill position
I don’t think I could agree with that. The O line is many times more complicated than the D line.
“I don’t think I could agree with that. The O line is many times more complicated than the D line”
That may be so. However, “skill positions” are traditionally limited to backs and receivers because they are the ones who move the ball forward. Lineman can be eligible receivers, but not very often.
O linemen are economics majors. D linemen are liberal arts. :)
The so called “skill positions” are the glory boy spots, aka the big fat paychecks. QB, RB, TE, WR, CB and maybe S. They might or might not actually require more skill than the lines or LBs but that’s the label that got put on those spots decades ago.
The big contracts for skilled players are limited to the top 5% or so outside of QB and CB. Top QB's are rare, as are lockdown CB's.
“Memo warns teams on score leaks (NFL - Wonderlic scores).”
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So that would INCLUDE white guys with embarrassingly slow times in the 40?
Right, Roger?
I understand. The guys who “touch” the ball are the “skill” guys. I just wanted to say my peace about O linemen. It’s a technical position, and takes a skillful communicator to be highly successful.
Me, I was always either quarterback or D lineman. :) I think D lineman may be the most fun I’ve ever had on the football field.
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