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Spitfires Buried In Burma During War To Be Returned To UK
The Telegraph ^ | 14 Apr 2012 | Victoria Ward and Rowena Mason

Posted on 04/18/2012 2:30:27 PM PDT by Windflier

The Prime Minister secured a historic deal that will see the fighter aircraft dug up and shipped back to the UK almost 67 years after they were hidden more than 40-feet below ground amid fears of a Japanese occupation.

The gesture came as Mr Cameron became the first Western leader to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, the Burmese democracy campaigner held under house arrest for 22 years by the military regime, and invited her to visit London in her first trip abroad for 24 years.

He called on Europe to suspend its ban on trade with Burma now that it was showing “prospects for change” following Miss Suu Kyi’s election to parliament in a sweeping electoral victory earlier this year.

The plight of the buried aircraft came to Mr Cameron’s attention at the behest of a farmer from Scunthorpe, North Lincs, who is responsible for locating them at a former RAF base using radar imaging technology.

David Cundall, 62, spent 15 years doggedly searching for the planes, an exercise that involved 12 trips to Burma and cost him more than £130,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aviation; spitfire; ww2
"Twenty iconic Spitfire aircraft buried in Burma during the Second World War are to be repatriated to Britain after an intervention by David Cameron."


A Spitfire flying from RAF Manston Photo: © Corbis. All Rights Reserved.

1 posted on 04/18/2012 2:30:31 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Courtesy ping...


2 posted on 04/18/2012 2:31:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

If they can be salvaged and restored, I can imaging quite a few getting chocked up seeing them flying over London on Remembrance Day in the near future.


3 posted on 04/18/2012 2:49:40 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: Windflier

Just crossing the wires...The Spanish government has filed a claim for the Spitfires.....


4 posted on 04/18/2012 2:50:00 PM PDT by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: Windflier
That is quite an exciting story, but with contradictions.

How is it that it can say:

“They were just buried there in transport crates,” Mr Cundall said. “They were waxed, wrapped in greased paper and their joints tarred. They will be in near perfect condition.”

Yet, though in 'near perfect condition':

They will need to be stripped down and re-riveted but it must be done.

To completely dismantle and re-rivet all of them will be quite costly, time consuming, and fraught with many difficulties, not the least of which occur when drilling out the existing rivets.

5 posted on 04/18/2012 2:58:56 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: VanDeKoik
If they can be salvaged and restored...

Perhaps you didn't click through to read the entire article. These Spitfires were still in their original crates, and were properly mothballed away for some future date. They're probably in perfect condition.

6 posted on 04/18/2012 3:24:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ken5050
The Spanish government has filed a claim for the Spitfires....

Sounds like an inside joke. There's no chance that England will give these up.

7 posted on 04/18/2012 3:25:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ron C.
Here's the part I don't understand:

. . . almost 67 years after they were hidden more than 40-feet below ground amid fears of a Japanese occupation.

67 years ago was 1945. The Japanese were past their days of conquering new territory by then.

8 posted on 04/18/2012 3:28:37 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Ron C.
To completely dismantle and re-rivet all of them will be quite costly, time consuming, and fraught with many difficulties, not the least of which occur when drilling out the existing rivets.

Given the prize, I doubt they'll feel any fatigue from drilling out all those rivets. I drill out rivets all the time in my business. It ain't such a big deal.

9 posted on 04/18/2012 3:28:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Unfortunately it's a big deal...

  1. The sheer number of them is huge
  2. Rivets often spin, even with sharpest new bits
  3. Ease of not hitting the rivet's exact center results in larger, off-center holes

To name but a few of the many problems I've faced in re-riveting.

Most of these (guessing) will be varying degrees of decayed (aluminum) and rusty (alloyed) - so gonna be a "whole-lotta spinnin' goin' on, baby!"

But - who knows, maybe they've invented a new tool that makes it simple, fast and totally error free. LOL

10 posted on 04/18/2012 4:28:13 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
Yep, looks like they have.

PN: TP276

Our rivet removal tool is designed to keep the drill bit centered on the AN470 rivet head. The cupped drill guide also keeps the bit from slipping off and ruining the sheet metal around it. This tool is completely adjustable for drilling depth. It comes complete with four guides and drill bits for #3, #4, #5, and #6 rivets.

Made in the U.S.A.


11 posted on 04/18/2012 6:08:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Wowza! That's quite a site for tools... Tx much for the tip!

I don't work on planes anymore, but I'll keep the info handy! -

12 posted on 04/18/2012 6:43:38 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

Is it? I didn’t look around. I can’t afford many new tools these days so I don’t torture myself too much. I do have a new Northern Tools & Equipment catalog. Gotta indulge in some porn some times!


13 posted on 04/18/2012 6:50:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
"Gotta indulge in some porn some times!"

LOL

Nothin' is more fun than adding a great tool to an already well-equipped home garage, then pulling it out and knocking back a fast repair, while others cry at the high-cost of paying for 'professional' mechanics.

14 posted on 04/18/2012 7:54:10 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Windflier

The early Spitfires (Merlin powered, elliptical wing) are the most beautiful piston engined fighters ever built.


15 posted on 04/18/2012 7:56:51 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Ron C.
I hear that loud and clear. I was a carpenter/contractor so I have everything I need to build houses and then some for woodworking. I've fixed nearly every mechanical component of my '49 and '59 Chevy trucks and a few other vehicles too. Including one complete engine rebuild on a '62 327 small block. And then there's just fiddle farting around trying to fix some old appliance or doodad that most people would chuck just to see if I can.

My collection is relatively small and basic with a few exceptions of special tools but I wouldn't sell any of them. A good tool is a treasure.

16 posted on 04/18/2012 8:10:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
"..one complete engine rebuild on a '62 327 small block.."

Yeah! There's nothing that gives you a better feeling of accomplishment. I rebuilt my 65 chevy (engine and trany) way-back when, and it's still running, but, not that often anymore.

It sure does put a grin on your face to see it run after the job is done!

17 posted on 04/18/2012 8:14:49 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

Yes it does! :-)


18 posted on 04/18/2012 8:45:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rmlew
The early Spitfires (Merlin powered, elliptical wing) are the most beautiful piston engined fighters ever built.

No doubt about it. Even as a young Army brat growing up in the baby boom era, that was my favorite WWII fighter plane.

I loved the American made fighters too, but the Spitfire was the king of them all.

19 posted on 04/19/2012 4:45:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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