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"You are required by U.S. Law to respond to this survey"
US Government Department of Thuggery | 4/21/12

Posted on 04/21/2012 10:54:33 AM PDT by pabianice

Several weeks ago I received a letter addressed to "Resident." Inside was a 28-page American Community Survey form in which I was supposed to reveal to the government every detail about my life. Today, "Resident" received it again along with a threatening letter requiring me to complete the survey.

I intend to chuck this one, too.

Has anyone else had this experience?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: acs; census; censussurvey; survey
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1 posted on 04/21/2012 10:54:36 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

What law did it cite and what was the return address?


2 posted on 04/21/2012 10:55:46 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Michael Barnes

Really good point.

Snailmail phishing?


3 posted on 04/21/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: pabianice

What was return address?


4 posted on 04/21/2012 10:57:24 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: pabianice

Can please scan it up and make it available?


5 posted on 04/21/2012 10:58:03 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: pabianice

Can please scan it up and make it available?


6 posted on 04/21/2012 10:58:09 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: pabianice
No.

I just changed my name to Guillermo Borrego...(a White Hispanic) a few days ago.

7 posted on 04/21/2012 10:58:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: pabianice

‘’I throw away every piece of mail that is not addressed to myself or my family personally.’’ Worst case is that someone comes knocking on your door (not going to happen) and asks you to complete the survey (which you refuse as you have no way to verify who this idiot is, and you require them to mail you a survey with your name on it, which they won’t do either...)

I toss the same mail whenever I get it.


8 posted on 04/21/2012 10:59:54 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: pabianice

As long as your name isn’t Resident I think you can ignore it safely.


9 posted on 04/21/2012 11:00:32 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: pabianice

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/about_the_survey/american_community_survey/


10 posted on 04/21/2012 11:01:31 AM PDT by riskybiz (Sarah Palin - 2012 - Born in the U.S.A. !)
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To: pabianice

"You'll tell us everything. Yes, I know you will."

11 posted on 04/21/2012 11:02:38 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: pabianice

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/about_the_survey/american_community_survey/


12 posted on 04/21/2012 11:03:06 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Director

US Census Bureau

PO Box 5240

Jeffersonville, IN 47199-5240

13 posted on 04/21/2012 11:03:40 AM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: pabianice

Thread on this from Jan.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2838565/posts


14 posted on 04/21/2012 11:03:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: pabianice

Respond with fire.


15 posted on 04/21/2012 11:05:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: pabianice
Got the same survey a couple of years ago. It was related to the census I thought. I chucked two of them before I got a visit from a lady. I did not answer anything other than how many people lived in the home. She had me call a number on her business card which I did and also told them I was not required to answer any intrusive questions such as income or how many bathrooms I had.
So Far so good. I understand the need for surveys, but to require it by law? Really?...um NO!
16 posted on 04/21/2012 11:05:45 AM PDT by lula ( We cannot afford 4 more years of the Won!)
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To: pabianice
Christopher Walken takes on the census
17 posted on 04/21/2012 11:08:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: riskybiz; pabianice
What is the American Community Survey?

The American Community Survey (ACS) is an ongoing survey that provides data every year -- giving communities the current information they need to plan investments and services. Information from the survey generates data that help determine how more than $400 billion in federal and state funds are distributed each year.

What if I don’t want those dollars distributed?

18 posted on 04/21/2012 11:09:26 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: pabianice

A family member also received that form in NY, requiring him to make available details of the size of his house, number of people in residence, utilities and all sorts of other data. He was led to believe it was about relocation of refugees from NYC in case of some future calamity.


19 posted on 04/21/2012 11:13:08 AM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: pabianice

The last census I just ignored the same survey. They kept sending different people to my house, I wouldn’t answer the door. One Saturday one of these ladies approached me while I was doing yard work in the front. I just pretended she didn’t exist; they had no training on how to deal with someone who wouldn’t even acknowledge their existence.


20 posted on 04/21/2012 11:13:08 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: pabianice
located this interesting page
21 posted on 04/21/2012 11:14:21 AM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: lula

I did same. The lady came to visit but my front door is inaccessible, my first line of defense against JW’s, Mormons, and nosey gov officials. She talked to my neighbor about me but he said hellifino.


22 posted on 04/21/2012 11:16:22 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (FUBO GTFO ABO......RUN BO!)
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To: pabianice

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/about_the_survey/respond_or_get_help/

Address is apparently legitimate


23 posted on 04/21/2012 11:17:47 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: pabianice

24 posted on 04/21/2012 11:18:25 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: pabianice

I heard that the American Community Survey was a survey instrument developed by the Obama administration in order to keep track of population trends, demographic and geographic shifts, citizens’ political thoughts, addresses in order to send Obama campaign mailings and an address database of those who oppose the Obama regime so that they can be relocated when necessary.


25 posted on 04/21/2012 11:20:15 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: JohnKinAK
One Saturday one of these ladies approached me while I was doing yard work in the front. I just pretended she didn’t exist; they had no training on how to deal with someone who wouldn’t even acknowledge their existence.

ROFL!! Excellent!

26 posted on 04/21/2012 11:20:45 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: pabianice

Anything I get addressed to “Resident” is junk mail. All junk mail I receive goes in the trash at the Post Office. However, if I receive one of these, I’m going to forward it to Dingy “The Junk Mail Junkie” Harry Reid. I read that he has a thing for junk mail. He says that junk mail helps him keep in touch with the little people in the REAL world.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 11:24:41 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the 47% to start paying their "fair share" of income taxes.)
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Perhaps we should all forward ALL junk mail to Harry Reid.

To his home, not his office.


28 posted on 04/21/2012 11:32:52 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: pabianice

Yes. This winter, the Census Bureau sent me a letter informing me that they would send me a survey. A week later, they sent another letter informing me that they had sent a survey. A month later, they sent me another letter requesting that I return the survey that they had sent. A few weeks later still, the survey actually arrived (naturally in Spanish, not my native English). After collecting the required information, I completed the survey as best I could and sent it back. Then the survey arrived in English, which I did not complete, fearing that the Census Bureau would find some discrepancy between my Spanish and English responses. The Census Bureau curiously has not contacted me for further questioning.


29 posted on 04/21/2012 11:33:06 AM PDT by dufekin (Stop Obama and the Democrats from making war against the Catholic Church)
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To: pabianice
I received this survey once. I filled it out only with "john does" and sent it in. After all, it says plainly on the front page, "we are not interested in you as individuals"-- So I figured, they really don't need my SSN and those of all my family, and don't really need the name of my employer and how far it is from my house to work. And a host of other intensely "personal information."

Well, they must not have liked that because they sent me another one. I filled it out the same way, basically FU. Haven't heard from them since, about three--four years now.

30 posted on 04/21/2012 11:35:16 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Uncle Slayton
I received this survey when Bush was still president so it is not an Obama invention.
31 posted on 04/21/2012 11:37:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Uncle Slayton
I received this survey when Bush was still president so it is not an Obama invention.
32 posted on 04/21/2012 11:38:16 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: pabianice

Options:
1. Take a red sharpy and write “Kiss My A$$” across the threatening letter before mailing it back
2. Fill it out as a minority single mother family with 30,000 dependents and an income of $30 billion. That ought to jack up their statistics.


33 posted on 04/21/2012 11:38:16 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: pabianice

Render unto Caesar, and all that.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/answersrequired.htm


34 posted on 04/21/2012 11:41:42 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Michael Barnes

I got the same thing from the Department of Commerce (Census Bureau) in 2009. The letter was addressed to “Current Resident.” I was selected for a household expenditure survey. They want to know how you spend every nickle every month. They want to see your utility bills, cable TV bills, even your ATM withdrawals. It is unbelievable. I told other people about it and almost no one believed me. I stonewalled them. They pounded on my door several times. I told them to f@*! off. I asked it they had a search warrant signed by a judge. Too bad I don’t have a large dog. The letters kept coming. They say they are from the government and they are here to help me. I sent the letters back with handwritten notes on them. I said I am sick with cancer. They don’t care. Finally after several months they gave up. I was prepared to go to jail rather than give in to this.


35 posted on 04/21/2012 11:43:32 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: pabianice

File it in the circular file. After all, it was delivered by the US Post Office. And things do get lost.


36 posted on 04/21/2012 11:43:37 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

For some reason UStream is telling me it’s not available.


37 posted on 04/21/2012 11:44:31 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: pabianice

“ACS” from the Census Dept. has been around awhile...I haven’t had the “pleasure” of getting one yet, fortunately! Apparently there could be fines for not responding, but rumor has it that almost no one is actually fined. More from the Census Dept. “FAQ”:

“Do I have to respond to the American Community Survey / Puerto Rico Community Survey?
Yes. Respondents are required to answer all questions on the American Community Survey (ACS) to the best of their ability. Response to this and other Census surveys is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13, Chapter 7, United States Code). This chapter also contains information regarding offenses and possible penalties. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of “not more than $100” to “not more than $5,000.” “

https://askacs.census.gov/faq.php


38 posted on 04/21/2012 11:48:40 AM PDT by Drago
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To: pabianice

We’ve gotten three or four notices, and one was pinned to our gate, the others by mail.

We burn them. Except the one pinned to the gate we left up for a few weeks to weather nicely.


39 posted on 04/21/2012 11:55:03 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: JohnKinAK
My parents got "chosen" for the extra attention in the last census. They are retired, and had to put up with the nonsense for about 6 months, iirc.

In depth in-person interview, with follow-up calls.

I also remember them complaining that a Census call center was bugging them after 9PM on a Sunday night.

We they told me, I told them that I think ACORN got a contract to do that. Having some knowledge of call centers, I'm guessing that at best, they didn't flag the time zone, and at worst, didn't care.

40 posted on 04/21/2012 12:04:36 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: pabianice
In 9 years I've received 3 of the American Community Surveys and only report how many people live here. Because I didn't fill out the many pages about when I leave for work, how much money I make, the names and ages of our children, how much I pay for insurance, etc, I've received many phone calls from the American Community Survey group. I usually just hang up.

Then they started stopping by. One time there was a young woman walking around our backyard, looking in my detached office, looking in our sheds and just looking around. One of my boys told me so I grabbed a 12 gauge shotgun, opened the door, pointed the shotgun at her, she turned pale and started screaming "I'm with the census bureau."

I told her to get out of my backyard and not come back. She still tried to get some questions answered but I kept telling her to leave.

When I have talked with the census bureau on the phone, they always tell me I'm required to completely fill out the forms or risk fines. I just tell them to fine me.

I've also asked what part of the Constitution says they can ask for all that personal information. They can only quote the Census or Enumeration clause.

So far I haven't had to pay the fine.

41 posted on 04/21/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: pabianice
We got this a couple years ago.

Even though we were threatened with a fine (after researching it we found no one has ever actually been fined) we decided to ignore it.

They visited and phoned us repeatedly.

The consensus is that after a 3 month period they stop. And that was exactly the time period it took for them to stop bugging us.

42 posted on 04/21/2012 12:08:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Joe 6-pack

That was very funny!

I do believe Walken and Bernard McGurk were separated at birth. Did you notice the notoriously lazy Walken was reading off the teleprompter? And he was still funny.


43 posted on 04/21/2012 12:11:39 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Calvin Locke

Yeah they came by daily for about 4 months. They weren’t smart enough to discover my phone #. Because I live outside of town, here in AK I have no mail delivery to my house, and they never sent a notice to my PO Box. So the routine was the same every day: I would drive home and see a car parked down the road. I would drive into my garage and by the time I was in the house the doorbell would ring twice. I would never answer, and they would leave a slip on my front door requesting me to call a phone # and threatening that what I was doing was against the law. I never answered the door, never called the phone #, never removed the notices (I had a bunch of them on my front door), and if they caught me outside I ignored their very existence. Eventually they went away. I am sure as a result I’m on some Gubermint List. But I don’t care.


44 posted on 04/21/2012 12:11:59 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: pabianice

Do what I did. Be creative and have fun. I reported myself as an unemployed black lesbian CEO making 250K/year. Any numeric answer was answered with “other”, and values like pi, e, i, and c were inserted...


45 posted on 04/21/2012 12:13:55 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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ALSO... the Census Bureau is prohibited from sharing ANY personal information with any other Federal Agency. Kind of hard to press a fine or charges if they can’t even release your name or address....


46 posted on 04/21/2012 12:16:55 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: pabianice

I received one about the 2012 election from the GOP. Lots of multiple choice type questions. I wrote four words on it and sent it back ...

NO OBAMA!!!
NO MITT!!!


47 posted on 04/21/2012 12:20:18 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: pabianice

book mark....I too have recieved 2 surveys mentioned in this post...tossed both in the circular file....


48 posted on 04/21/2012 12:24:22 PM PDT by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: Salgak

“...an unemployed black lesbian CEO making 250K/year.”

Marry me?


49 posted on 04/21/2012 12:27:55 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: JohnKinAK
Rush Limbaugh once read a story about a "town" in PA that was really small (29 residences sticks in my mind).

Census person/people blew through, literally everybody was not home, and the Census Bureau took the "town" off their maps.

Apparently, they didn't bother with follow-ups.

Hmmm, maybe that's why they are so harassingly insistent nowadays.

50 posted on 04/21/2012 12:35:51 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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