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Eligibility question
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Posted on 07/05/2012 11:29:36 AM PDT by gop4lyf

Eventually we will get a president other than 0bama. If that president has the fortitude to actually investigate thoroughly the background of 0bama and were to find, without a shadow of a doubt, that 0bama was indeed ineligible to serve as President, would that make any bill that 0bama signed null and void?


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To: hoosierham

hmph. after a brief check, seems you are correct. the president is really just there to stop bills from becoming law, if he wants.

there goes that belief in how the system worked

of course, all the appointments would be null & void. and any judgements made by those appointments would also be null & void

any military actions would also be brought into question, as those actions were not lawful

in short, a Constitutional crisis.


21 posted on 07/05/2012 1:44:50 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: bill1952

If 0bama is shown to be a usurper and ineligible, then he is nothing more than a private citizen masquerading as president and illegally exercising the powers of that office. Joe the Plumber probably has as much claim to the office as the kenyan illegal alien, so why would ANY of his orders, proclamations, or “laws” he signed be valid?


22 posted on 07/05/2012 2:13:18 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that bastard out of MY White House!")
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To: El Laton Caliente
The founders never saw this one coming. That's because the Founders assumed an intelligent and responsible electorate.
23 posted on 07/05/2012 2:39:42 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: sten

I really doubt there would be a Constitutional crisis.

Think of it in terms of other criminal acts:the corner store is not “unrobbed” the poor clerk is not “unshot or undead” because the perpetrator of the acts is brought to trial,convicted,and sentenced.Even the execution only serves to ensure that the particular criminal will not re-offend and MAY deter others who fear being caught and punished.

The problem is that ,the Constitution gives Congress the authority to seat or refuse a seat to putative winners of at least a Conressional election.Congress as a body could say, refuse David Duke a seat even though he got 80% of the vote in a fair election,whilst it could also seat Al Franken if he was statisically tied in an electrion with known fraud.There being no other Constituional mention, I think the position that once having been recognized by Congress as the winner ,and dealt with as if he is the legitimate holder,a person IS the legal officeholder.Sort of like conn-law marriage:if everyone acts as i it were so,then it becomes so.That said,he can still be impeached or otherwise removed for high crimes and misdemeanors.

The best we can do is vote out the “one” and as many of his enablers as possible.


24 posted on 07/05/2012 3:02:48 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: mosaicwolf
How do you like me so far?

I like what you're smoking.

25 posted on 07/05/2012 4:46:19 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: gop4lyf

No. The supreme court would overturn nothing, even in the worst case that he was, for instance, “born in Kenya”.

The Court would bend over backwards to say Obama was elected, sworn in, and served legally. (Mostly to avoid a crisis.)

Read a book like “The Nine” to learn about how the Supreme Court looks issues.. Most of their decisions go along with the “will of the people...”


26 posted on 07/05/2012 6:34:25 PM PDT by bhl
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To: gop4lyf

If it is discovered that The Moron occupying the WH is a fraud, and there is no doubt that he is, the very least that should happen is jail with no pension and no library or any other benefits that usually are awarded ex-presidents.


27 posted on 07/06/2012 8:31:48 AM PDT by llotter (Without Responsibility, People Will Act Irresponsible.)
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To: sten

Actually as the head of the executive branch it is the President’s job to oversee the implementation of laws enacted by Congress;he was never supposed to become a pseudo-king ,making up laws on his own.Any executive order by any president should only have been for the purpose of carrying out the will of the Congress.


28 posted on 07/08/2012 11:02:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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