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Our Smart Meter Battle Has Started
Email | 6 July 2012 | Unknown Patriot

Posted on 07/07/2012 1:12:52 PM PDT by Windflier

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Just got this in email from a Tea Party friend, and thought I'd pass it along to the Freeper community.

If you haven't yet had a smart meter installed by your electric provider, perhaps this is a way to stop them from doing so.

1 posted on 07/07/2012 1:12:56 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: Windflier

Good for him, my house was new with one of these, I didn’t have a choice. No one should consent.


2 posted on 07/07/2012 1:16:42 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Windflier

It is possible for example, with analysis of certain “Smart Meter” data, for unauthorized and distant parties to determine..........sexual activities

Wow looks like the sales of battery powered vibrators will pick up.


3 posted on 07/07/2012 1:20:11 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Windflier

I think you’re freaking out over nothing.

You should worry when you, or they, start installing “smart* *appliances* in your home.

Until then, what can they do? There’s NO WAY to selectively enable/disable/control individual power draws. All they could to is cut you off completely. And they aren’t gonna do that.

FWIW, and FRegards


4 posted on 07/07/2012 1:20:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: dila813

If you live in California you have the right to refuse and have a mechanical meter installed. Check with a Republican member of your legislature; there may be means to fight this through legislation or the courts.


5 posted on 07/07/2012 1:21:01 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: nascarnation

>> Wow looks like the sales of battery powered vibrators will pick up.

If your wife (hopefully) or significant other (sigh, that’s where society is going) needs a line-powered vibrator, I’d say there are home issues of a higher priority than “smart metering” that need your attention. :-)


6 posted on 07/07/2012 1:23:56 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: dila813

Can’t you revoke the consent given by someone else?


7 posted on 07/07/2012 1:25:11 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Windflier

Someone please explain to me how you discern sexual activity with the information gathered by a smart meter. I am sorry, but paraniod crap like this gives the tea party a bad name.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 1:25:22 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Windflier; dila813; TEXOKIE; ELVISNIXON.com; SunkenCiv; E. Pluribus Unum; CharlyFord; ...
This should be of interest as it all comes from the same place ... U.N. Agenda 21
9 posted on 07/07/2012 1:28:48 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: Windflier

Lately I’ve been hearing local chatter suggesting that my electric company has switched from 60Hz to 40Hz and that its causing problems.

I don’t even know if such a thing is possible or whether I would even notice. Hopefully some knowledgeable FReeper has some info.

I do know that myself and plenty of my neighbors are noticing dimming lights and what seems to be an extraordinary rate of electric appliance failures.


10 posted on 07/07/2012 1:31:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dila813

Sadly for us they installed our smart meter about 4 years ago before we realized what it really was. Not to worry we will be moving to a mountain retreat soon and will make sure we do not have a smart meter and we are also planning an alternative off grid power system for backup. At some point the govt will start shutting off power for one reason or another. Everyone should be thinking about this.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 1:34:47 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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"...my electric company has switched from 60Hz to 40Hz"

You do have a battery powered BS meter don't you?

12 posted on 07/07/2012 1:37:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: beef
Someone please explain to me how you discern sexual activity with the information gathered by a smart meter. I am sorry, but paraniod crap like this gives the tea party a bad name.

Some people will permit invasions into the kitchen, bathroom, garage, living room with dictates as to the type of television you own, the wattage or type of lightbulbs you use, the temperature you set your thermostat at, the size of your toilet tank, the flow capacity of your showerhead, etc. BUT if they believe that SOMEONE may be compromising their bedroom activities as "bedroom police" SUDDENLY they become concerned over too much government in their lives.

Everything else they shrug off as "for our own good".

13 posted on 07/07/2012 1:37:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Paladin2

I know when someone isn’t saying squat to a serious question.


14 posted on 07/07/2012 1:39:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

>> I’ve been hearing local chatter suggesting that my electric company has switched from 60Hz to 40Hz... Hopefully some knowledgeable FReeper has some info.

ROFLMAO! Okay! I’ll see if I can help.

It’s horse-hockey. Pure, plain, and simple.

For only one, small (but obvious) engineering point: most electricity is generated one way or another by Big, Expensive. Rotating. Machinery of some sort.

To make this Big. Expensive. Machinery rotate 33% slower is, well, intractable.

But here’s an easy test for you to try. Can you lay hands on an old-fashioned electric clock? The kind that ran off an electric motor and made hands spin around? Those clocks depend on 60Hz power for their timekeeping. If your utility has slowed to 40Hz, the clock won’t keep time. IT’ll be slow. And by *how much* slow, you can calculate the line frequency of your ElecCo.

But you’re wasting your time if you try this, because they are NOT reducing the line frequency. I guarantee you.

Another point: what exactly would they be SAVING by reducing line frequency? ANSWER: nothing.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 1:40:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: cripplecreek
Buy a "Kill A Watt"

It measures voltage and frequency, among other things.

16 posted on 07/07/2012 1:40:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Windflier

Unfortunately here in Texas, with our bought-off governor, the concept of privacy DOES NOT EXIST.

No one in our 2/3rds REPUBLICAN legislature has lifted a finger with regard to “Smart Meters”. They are being shoved down our throats, thanks to RICK PERRY, and if we refuse, we get to see the business end of a Constable’s side arm.

I get jealous of California. They STILL don’t pay sales tax on Amazon (we just got signed up for it - thank you state government), and they don’t don’t even pay sales tax on Net10 Wireless cell phones (we do, of course).

So, while California forced an opt-out - our lackeys in state government, including David Dewhurst at the top of the list (a Perry bitch), made sure that we wouldn’t get that option.

...and there’s even a thread today about Texas succeeding from the US - LOL, with this bunch the only reason they could come up with for leaving the US would be to take the honor of being the 32nd Mexican state.


17 posted on 07/07/2012 1:42:58 PM PDT by BobL
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To: cripplecreek

If you’re not noticing transformers, electric motors and such burning up... they didn’t switch.

Going to 40Hz would *guarantee* transformers, motors, etc burn up - within a very short time (like minutes to an hour or two).


18 posted on 07/07/2012 1:43:23 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you. I was leaning toward disbelief based on the fact that my electric company doesn’t operate in a closed grid. Seems like any change would cause conflicts within the grid as a whole.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 1:45:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

60 ~ 40Hz? Nope. We’ve been using 60 cycles since the beginning. Europe uses 50Hz. My iPad charger is rated for 50 & 60 and their corresponding voltages. Nothing else. You appliances and everything else would have serious issues with another cycle rate unless specifically designed for it.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 1:46:45 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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