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Question for Ham radio folks, any idea what is causing interference or jamming of WWV transmissions?

Posted on 07/20/2012 11:52:17 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican

Image of interference/jamming on WWV at 5MHZ:

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And Image of same on WWV at 10MHz:

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NIST website says their readability is excellent, but bar graph is not showing there.

My friend is getting the interference on his fancy radio rig. He asked me to ask Freepers for ideas, thoughts, similar experience. He doesn't have a Freep account but will read comments.


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I will prewarn my friend in case any of you feel that you must post a bunny with a pancake on its head.
1 posted on 07/20/2012 11:52:23 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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Solar Flares and Sun Spots cause interference on HF Radio!


2 posted on 07/20/2012 11:55:00 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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3 posted on 07/20/2012 11:56:27 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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I wondered if that might be a cause. SpaceWeather.com says we are in the middle of a low-level radiation storm right now.
4 posted on 07/20/2012 11:57:52 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: LurkedLongEnough; AlexW; bikerman; Blue_Spark; bitterohiogunclinger; Bobalu; buccaneer81; ...

HAM SWL DX Ping


5 posted on 07/20/2012 11:59:33 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Well, I warned him.

;-)

6 posted on 07/20/2012 11:59:58 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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It has to be local, I'm receiving WWV fine on 5Mhz and 10Mhz.

/johnny

7 posted on 07/20/2012 12:00:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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At 10mhz, wouldn’t that be cordless phones, 2 way radios, baby monitors and things along that nature?


8 posted on 07/20/2012 12:00:39 PM PDT by mnehring
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WWV is pretty clear at 15 mHz.


9 posted on 07/20/2012 12:00:49 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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Looks like local noise to me - very possibly from a computer or some device with a switching power supply.

No sign of anything like this at 5 and 10 MHz here in Northern Virginia. Can’t hear WWV at 5 MHz during daylight but there’s also no trace of noise or interference. 10 MHz shows only WWV. Weak due to poor propagation, but no broadband hash observed.

Jack


10 posted on 07/20/2012 12:01:36 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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Damn squirrels...


11 posted on 07/20/2012 12:02:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Just for a laugh, maybe it is this?
http://www.photofacialmachines.com/shop.aspx?p=11603&k=10Mhz-Radio-Frequency-Facial-Lift-Body-Slim-Spa-Machine


12 posted on 07/20/2012 12:03:00 PM PDT by mnehring
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Look here.
13 posted on 07/20/2012 12:05:01 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: mylife; All
Hey, thanks for doing that HAM ping. My friend is signing up as a new Freeper now. It may take him a bit to get up to speed on how to post, etc., so go easy on him.

And thanks to all for your replies. I will leave all the techie comments to you guys now. My work here is done. A new Freeper will be entering through the podbay doors soon...

14 posted on 07/20/2012 12:08:06 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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“At 10mhz, wouldn’t that be cordless phones, 2 way radios, baby monitors and things along that nature?”

No.

10.000 - 10.000 Time Standard WWV
10.005 - 10.100 Aeronautical Mobile Transoceanic Flights
10.100 - 10.150 Amateur 30 Meters CW Only
10.100 - 11.175 Fixed Service


15 posted on 07/20/2012 12:09:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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thx


16 posted on 07/20/2012 12:10:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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No Problemo.

I haven’t a clue what it is, but it does appear to be local.

My first thought was a clock signal from something that is leaking.
Though I am used to seeing 10 Mhz clocks


17 posted on 07/20/2012 12:11:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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is his beeber set to stune?


18 posted on 07/20/2012 12:17:49 PM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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A leak in the local cable company plant will cause noise in the 5-42Mhz range (upstream carrier).
Otherwise I would look at power-line amplifiers, or any fluorescent lighting/signage indoor or outdoor.


19 posted on 07/20/2012 12:18:03 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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It’s really hard to say from just looking at a spectrum plot. Listening to the interfering signal on a receiver would provide clues. If it sounds like a constant 60 Hz buzz, it could be a switching power supply, CFL bulb, etc. If there is a computery-sound to it, it could be a nearby PLC data link that uses HF frequencies on power lines for data transmission. If it a voice signal, it could be a harmonic from a nearby AM station that has a problem in the output filter. If the problem continues, have him look up a nearby ham radio club (search at ARRL.org) and they can help locate the noise source.


20 posted on 07/20/2012 12:19:56 PM PDT by blindsangamon
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