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Sheriff Joe's Lead Investigator: Obama's Birth Certificate Cannot Survive Judicial Scrutiny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsuZLZkZmK0&feature=player_embedded ^

Posted on 07/23/2012 8:14:42 AM PDT by OUTKAST

Internet now debating--- Did Zullo rely on 1968 codes, instead of 1961 codes.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; birftards; birth; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama

1 posted on 07/23/2012 8:14:52 AM PDT by OUTKAST
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To: OUTKAST; TheOldLady; WildHighlander57; netmilsmom; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; ...
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2 posted on 07/23/2012 8:16:42 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: OUTKAST

lets go to the microfilm and see whats what.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 8:17:03 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: OUTKAST

Bottom Line: Why did the President of the United States give the American People a fake birth certificate?

(rhetoric- we know the answer)


4 posted on 07/23/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: OUTKAST

I can’t believe how much this is being ignored. Can you imagine if The One was a Repub?? It would be non-stop headline news, top story on ABC, NBC, CBS night after night after night. Carl Bernstein would write a book and George Clooney would make a movie about it.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 8:25:12 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: OUTKAST

zullo said nothing about the codes found on the forgery

the notary explained the codes used.

oops


6 posted on 07/23/2012 8:28:18 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Mr. K

Why did a political party who knew it all to be a hoax throw in with Him? Their so called leaders, Clintons, Nancy, Harry ? If this isn’t a crime what would be?
Will anything be done to anyone about this? Does at least one political party respect the constitution ?


7 posted on 07/23/2012 8:29:24 AM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: reefdiver
Why did a political party who knew it all to be a hoax throw in with Him?

Why capitalize the pronoun, 'him'? Do you mean to imply that Obama is the Messiah? (Why even use a pronoun when you haven't named the subject?)

8 posted on 07/23/2012 8:34:09 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

9 posted on 07/23/2012 8:38:09 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Bain Capital would not have bought into Solyndra)
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To: LucyT

BREAKING NEWS! WASHINGTON TIMES DAILY NEWSPAPER AGREES TO RUN FULL PAGE AD EXPOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE USURPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE! THIS IS A MEDIA BREAKTHROUGH!


10 posted on 07/23/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: OUTKAST

Did you watch the 90 minute news conference?


11 posted on 07/23/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...

BREAKING NEWS! WASHINGTON TIMES DAILY NEWSPAPER AGREES TO RUN FULL PAGE AD EXPOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE USURPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE! THIS IS A MEDIA BREAKTHROUGH!

It’s time for this charade to stop!” - Investigator Mike Zullo, July 17, 2012
12 posted on 07/23/2012 8:56:28 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Mr. K
Why did the President of the United States give the American People a fake birth certificate?

A simpler question would be what was he using all these years? How did he manage to get a drivers license, marriage license, etc.? Why would he have to go through this whole complicated, covert process with Hawaii just to get his very own birth certificate? It doesn't make sense on its face. Most people in their 50's have long had their original or certified copies safely tucked away.

13 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: LucyT
Speculation is over. Experts are now in agreement that a proven forgery is on the White House website. A crime has been committed.

It’s time for this charade to stop!” - Investigator Mike Zullo, July 17, 2012

14 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:22 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: OUTKAST

Thanks for the Zullo hotlink.


15 posted on 07/23/2012 9:04:22 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: OUTKAST
All bets are off it the forged BC lawsuit ultimately winds up on the supreme court desk of misChief inJustice John Robs US.
16 posted on 07/23/2012 9:09:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: OUTKAST

It appears they used 1968 codes. Have they responded yet to this?


17 posted on 07/23/2012 9:09:18 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: jersey117; butterdezillion; Diogenesis; All

” - - - How did he manage to get a drivers license, marriage license, etc.? “

Are these bureaus’ records sealed too?

Somebody’s files holds an unsealed document that escaped Obama’s SEALED Team # 9.

BTW, why not just file a Voter’s Class Action Lawsuit challenging the validity of Obama’s BC ?

Our sorry politicians will never do that - - - .

Any FReeper lawyers out there?


18 posted on 07/23/2012 9:17:00 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: LucyT; OUTKAST; TheOldLady; WildHighlander57; netmilsmom; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; ...
Sheriff Joe's Lead Investigator:
Obama's Birth Certificate Cannot Survive Judicial Scrutiny

Yes. But just what judge in what court is going to scrutinize it? With 120 days to go, the whole load falls on the narrow, weak shoulders of AZ SoS Bennett. He has the authority, the cause, and the power he needs to remove whomever that actually might be from the AZ Ballot. Has he the courage?

19 posted on 07/23/2012 9:23:15 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What Hawaii gave to Obama, was not what Obama gave to us.)
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To: Graewoulf

[ Obama’s SEALED Team # 9. ]

LOL


20 posted on 07/23/2012 9:41:36 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

On a lighter note, maybe First Bitch Michelle could come out with a line of her Perfumes using that secretive name?

No telling how sales could increase once the Liberal Agenda Media catches wind of it.

There might even be a fast and furious pre-election sale. You just never know - - - .


21 posted on 07/23/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: OUTKAST

Sheriff Joe’s Lead Investigator: Obama’s Birth Certificate Cannot Survive Judicial Scrutiny

It’s survived just fine so far... If this “government by the people” can not have standing to bring this fraud to light in court, how can it ever be scrutinized by that very same judiciary?


22 posted on 07/23/2012 10:00:50 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: OUTKAST
Did Zullo rely on 1968 codes, instead of 1961 codes.
Maybe this is sending people in the wrong direction...

In Hawaii in 1961, there were three different birth certificates

(See Section 57-18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)

Distract people by getting them to look "forward" instead of backwards as they should.

23 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:08 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: OUTKAST

Please explain, or give a link to something that explains, what you are referring to. (The youtube Klein/Zullo interview had no discussion of 1968 v 1961 codes.)


24 posted on 07/23/2012 10:43:07 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: OUTKAST

His handlers already know who he is. Why do you think we got MCCain and Romney?


25 posted on 07/23/2012 10:47:20 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Chewbarkah

Google it. You will find it.

The other side is claiming the page he copied is exactly the same as the one in 1968.
The codes in 1961 were different .


26 posted on 07/23/2012 10:51:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: OUTKAST

“Cannot Survive Judicial Scrutiny”

Yeah, well...they said the same thing about Obamacare


27 posted on 07/23/2012 10:53:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Brown Deer; OUTKAST
@ VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1961 VOLUME I- NATALITY SECTION 5- NATALITY (page 5-7) Race and color
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian.
In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used.

28 posted on 07/23/2012 10:56:06 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

In other words- 1968
9 equals not stated

1961
It is nonwhite.

Thus, Zullo used 1968 info.


29 posted on 07/23/2012 11:07:03 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Brown Deer

ping bho nbc


30 posted on 07/23/2012 11:11:46 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Brown Deer; OUTKAST
No matter which one was used, '61 or '68, there should have been a "2" in the field.
African shouldn't be there no matter what the "Doc" thinks. It's by race, not nationality.
31 posted on 07/23/2012 11:19:15 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RummyChick

See 31.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 11:22:26 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RummyChick
While I can't find a "Nativity of Father" section from the good Doc, I can find a "Nativity of Mother" section.
Now, if they're the same "1- Native, 2 - Foreign, 3 - Not Stated" I see a "2" by the name of the Father.

Or does that "2" mean "Illegitimate" from page 7 of 12?
Not a whole lot of choices to pick from on that "2" next to "Kenya, East Africa".

33 posted on 07/23/2012 11:44:26 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

so that discusses births, not race of parents...where on the BC does it show race of child?


34 posted on 07/23/2012 11:45:10 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
...where on the BC does it show race of child?
Hmmmm...very good point. It doesn't show the race of the child. Even Fig. 5-1 from January 1, 1956 doesn't have a place for it.

I know that the race of the child is determined by the race of the parents so, given your point, the codes must be the means to extrapolate the race of the child based upon the race of the parents.

Does that make sense?

35 posted on 07/23/2012 12:38:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rolling_stone
A 1 parent and another 1 parent gives a "1" "white" baby by 1961 terminology.
A 1 parent and a 2 parent would give...well... With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. ...a 2 "nonwhite" Negro baby.

Nothing else is possible as far as I can tell.
"Other nonwhite" (the "9" in dispute) would be someone already of mixed race.

36 posted on 07/23/2012 12:55:57 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

CaLl for Freepers Reinforcements

Freepers need to show these Obots what the truth is.
They are lying and confusing people that are now inquiring about this.

http://www.amazon.com/Mike-Zullo-Aaron-Klein-Show/forum/Fx3O0GUS5OOQ7GV/TxEMZ0INM4DVHI/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1936488299


37 posted on 07/23/2012 1:15:03 PM PDT by OUTKAST
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To: OUTKAST
Freepers need to show these Obots what the truth is.

You want me to go wallow in the ditch?

38 posted on 07/23/2012 1:40:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

bflr!


39 posted on 07/23/2012 1:56:03 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Guilty but not prosecuted? Sounds like a liberal to me.)
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To: philman_36

The “Doc’s” doc comes from an agency that didn’t exist until 1963. It’s not a very credible source of information. It also doesn’t jibe with the 1960 and 1961 Natality Reports which used different classifications for race than what appears on the Doc’s doc.


40 posted on 07/23/2012 1:57:25 PM PDT by edge919
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To: RummyChick

RummyChick: “It appears they used 1968 codes. Have they responded yet to this?”

For all we know, the forger used a 1968 or later birth certificate as the basis for Obama’s final product. So it may not really matter...


41 posted on 07/23/2012 3:00:14 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: RummyChick; philman_36

So does this new coding match more closely to what would be expected of the parents of Virginia Sunahara? Assuming that the 9 indication is for “non-white”??


42 posted on 07/23/2012 3:15:27 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: edge919
It’s not a very credible source of information.
I had my doubts.

Had to use what he's using and it all seems to be coming from and through him so...

By his thinking/rationalization Sr was of mixed races and I just don't see it.

43 posted on 07/23/2012 3:26:39 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: visually_augmented
You asking me that or no?
44 posted on 07/23/2012 3:29:26 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: OUTKAST; All

Has anyone found a link to the Vital Statistics Instruction Manual for 1961? The oldest I’ve found is one for 1999 thru 2001.


45 posted on 07/23/2012 5:55:07 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: Brown Deer

Can’t access the link from here but I did look at the Wa Times and nothing showing today (sigh).


46 posted on 07/24/2012 7:31:13 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Guilty but not prosecuted? Sounds like a liberal to me.)
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To: freebird5850

It was yesterday.


47 posted on 07/24/2012 7:34:27 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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