Skip to comments.Snake Oil? (Chart shows which supplements are a waste of money, which have good supporting evidence)
Posted on 08/21/2012 11:06:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The key to this article is “by an adult with a healthy diet”. Seriously? With as healthy diet is nearly impossible to attain these days. Our food is grown for color and sometimes taste, NOT nutritional value. I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?
Been taking fish oil for years. It’s absolutely worth the money.
Kinda surprised about valerian root. I’ve been taking valerian for years to help me sleep. It’s truly a wonder root for deep REM sleep. Melatonin is great for getting to sleep.
I’m a fish and flax oil and vitamin D user.
That said, I think anything harmless is fine if people want to believe.
I’ve been casting around for something a little different to grow and health benefits are a plus. I think I’ve settled on Paw Paws. I’ve been reading some good things about them.
My wife and I do. Blueberries, raspberries, grapes, apples, peaches, pears, pineapple, bananas... all go GREAT with Greek yogurt for a snack or a dessert.
We eat veggies every way possible. Our recent favorite is using cauliflower in the blender with some cream and butter... just like mashed taters!
Agree on melatonin. I’m a hard-core ‘show me’ kind of guy. I have to say I sleep better with melatonin. God knows there’s enough to keep me awake these days.
I took a 10 mg melatonin with two 400 mg valerian caps and slept like I was dead. I fall asleep in less than 20 mins with melatonin, and I’ve yet to wake up during a valerian coma.
The only side effect is incredibly vivid and active dreaming, but most of my dreams have been pleasant.
Also take Flaxseed oil, Omega Fish oil, Good multivitamin, GNC Tri-Flex
Plus these (hardcore bodybuilder) Whey protein, Creatine Monohydrate, ReFeed Anabolic Protein, Pro Performance (Tribulus etc):
Very good points. As a poster boy for poor eating (but not obese), I might eat any significant serving at all of fruits and vegetables three or four times a year -- maybe those would add up to one day a year of adequate intake LOL. Have to start hitting Granny's Buffet more often. But I'm still here, if struggling. a little (not diet related)
First thing I notice looking at the chart -- Tumeric at the bottom??? Sure, if thousands of years of experience with curcumin is all wet.
This thread about turmeric was posted here yesterday:
Your chart shows it as worthless.
One serving is a surprisingly small amount. It is only 1/2 cup of raw or cooked food (less for dried). A good sized apple would be 2 servings. One website I looked at said that a cup of sliced bananas is 1 1/3 medium bananas, so a medium banana would be one and a half servings.
And don't even get me started when bing cherries are in season. I found some down to $1.49/lb and annoyed everyone in the office with my piles of stems and pits in the trash.
Veggies, eh, not so much.
I can’t believe this chart left off apple cider vinegar. The benefits of that stuff is just unbelievable.
Actually the chart just says that it hasn't been subject to any scientifically controlled double blind testing. It could be good, it could be worthless, it could be detrimental but it hasn't been properly tested.
Doink fer later.
Clearly the only way magnesium could end up at the bottom of the bottom tier.
And I can't leave without a jab at the misuse of the word "healthy". The word that should have been used is "healthful".
Saw Palmetto does work. I have been taking it for over 15 years. At 58 years old my PSA number is very low.
The chart is wrong a some items.
We all are going to die.
Did you know that the Osage Orange is marginally edible but can also be used to induce vomiting?
Your body can not process calcium with out it .
The average American diet is sorely lacking in it .
Blueberries, raspberries, grapes, apples, peaches, pears, pineapple, bananas... all go GREAT with Greek yogurt
And, did you make a loan to pay for all those fruits. Blueberries alone are almost $4 where I live.
It’s KNOWN to be a highly powerful antioxidant. You could only say “conflicting” in that it’s hard to put a number on how much healthier you are taking any antioxidant. But there are studies that show it’s absorbed in the system and in large enough doses even assists endurance and athletic performance. Might as well say don’t take vitamin C, E, or any other general antioxidant.
I even read a science article a few months ago describing future anti aging drugs. The comment was: creating an antioxidant a thousand times as powerful as Resveratol. It’s known to be beneficial. The question is simply how big of a dose continues to benefit.
I didn’t see CO-Q10 anywhere.
Squirrels love the Horse Apples........
Unfortunately, the chart puts it in the “conflicting” evidence group.
Yep. You have to know what counts as a serving of fruits and vegetables. My favorite drink:
You want an entertaining night of vivid dreaming? Take Melatonin, Valierian, a triple dose of vitamin D and wash it down with some milk and then a warm cup of strong chamomile tea
The chamomile tea I think helps keep it a nice dream and not being chased by vampires or democraps.
We do 4 or 5 fruits each morning with breakfast and at least two veggies with dinner.
One does not need to eat an entire orange, apple, or banana. 3 or 4 slices and a half banana will do.
Knowing how to be an intellectual shopper helps. My wife is a cracker jack label reader and marketing code interpreter.
I don't know how someone who works every day can do this. We're retired and it still takes real effort to get the shopping done.
Live in Florida and usually buy our produce at farmer’s markets.
My wife makes the point quite succinctly: “It’s no wonder Americans are so fat. It’s expensive to eat properly!”
“Smilin’ Bob” earns his money.
Me neither. That stuff works and is taking over the pharmacy shelf space where I buy. Stay under or at 100mg and take early in the morning or you may have trouble going to sleep at bedtime; in my case anyway.
Be careful of those packages juice drinks..the rule of thumb is anything isn a package that says it "healthy"..it's not. The stuff that is packaged by the food co's that push "healthy" are some of the worst crap to eat.
Better to eat non processed real fruit and veggies.
Ditto on Saw Palmetto. I remember at one time having a doctor who told me that that was the only supplement he took because it was the only one with proven results.....
I think they’re kind of neat trees. Natural fences.
There are a few here in Michigan and lots of them on the state land that used to be farmland before the depression.
It’s listed as ubiquinol in the above chart. But it is listed under the SLIGHT evidence category. Wonder why...
I try to take it when I can, but it’s just so dang expensive. But yeah, I’ve read so many good things about it. Doctor noe pointed out that it’s listed as ubiquinol, and I’m surprised at where it’s at in the chart. I’ll probably still keep taking it, though.
I have heard many times over that a deficiency in copper weakens the arteries and causes annurisims? And they are showing it to be worthless?
I question several things on this chart.
Has this chart been vetted by our wondrous 4 AM gym-RAT FLOTUS?
You are so right. I live in Louisiana - and we have farming and farmer's markets. Last week, green beans were almost $3 a pound IN THE SUMMER! They used to be cheap because we grow them locally. Anyway, I always get angry at the elitist liberals who are trying to punish those who are too fat and telling children they are too fat. Well, ever price a box or twinkies opposed to an orange or a box of craft macaroni & cheese to a cauliflower? Significant differences. And, when you trying to feed a family of 4 or more full nutrition is next to impossible - especially for teens who are hungry around the clock. I am certainly not against healthy eating - I eat vegs., chicken, fish, etc. I am just saying that it is getting next to impossible to eat well.
Now, with obama taking over our food and water supplies last March, I wonder if we will have rationing at some point.
The chart has a “worth it” line, and turmeric is just as far below that line as is possible. I read that as “worthless”.
It's a very interesting tree.....Lot's of uses.
Thousands of Hedge Apple fence posts here in NE Oklahoma....still in use.
A great wood worker's wood....etc, etc...
I know it was prescribed for my pup when he was having heart trouble and it helped him a lot. I understand it is given to open heart surgery patients.
I take it for energy and to help maintain healthy muscle.
That chart is wrong on vitamin C for sure. Five hundred, 500mg tablets only cost about 6 bucks. Vitamin C improves your immune system's ability to fight infection, your body's ability to heal itself, slows the aging process, enhances your skin condition and is one of the top free radical scavengers available. I've read reports that mega doses are being given to Fukashima workers intravenously, to prevent radiation damage.
This administration and the progressive elite want us dead, ASAP. They're not interested in extending life or in the unborn. That's why they're against anything and anyone that is.