Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Snake Oil? (Chart shows which supplements are a waste of money, which have good supporting evidence)
Visually ^ | 08/21/2012

Posted on 08/21/2012 11:06:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: supplements; supplementschart; vitaminchart; vitamins
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last

1 posted on 08/21/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The key to this article is “by an adult with a healthy diet”. Seriously? With as healthy diet is nearly impossible to attain these days. Our food is grown for color and sometimes taste, NOT nutritional value. I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?


2 posted on 08/21/2012 11:17:42 AM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Been taking fish oil for years. It’s absolutely worth the money.

Kinda surprised about valerian root. I’ve been taking valerian for years to help me sleep. It’s truly a wonder root for deep REM sleep. Melatonin is great for getting to sleep.


3 posted on 08/21/2012 11:18:47 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I’m a fish and flax oil and vitamin D user.

That said, I think anything harmless is fine if people want to believe.

I’ve been casting around for something a little different to grow and health benefits are a plus. I think I’ve settled on Paw Paws. I’ve been reading some good things about them.


4 posted on 08/21/2012 11:19:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BillT
I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?

My wife and I do. Blueberries, raspberries, grapes, apples, peaches, pears, pineapple, bananas... all go GREAT with Greek yogurt for a snack or a dessert.

We eat veggies every way possible. Our recent favorite is using cauliflower in the blender with some cream and butter... just like mashed taters!

5 posted on 08/21/2012 11:22:14 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rarestia

Agree on melatonin. I’m a hard-core ‘show me’ kind of guy. I have to say I sleep better with melatonin. God knows there’s enough to keep me awake these days.


6 posted on 08/21/2012 11:27:45 AM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Noumenon

I took a 10 mg melatonin with two 400 mg valerian caps and slept like I was dead. I fall asleep in less than 20 mins with melatonin, and I’ve yet to wake up during a valerian coma.

The only side effect is incredibly vivid and active dreaming, but most of my dreams have been pleasant.


7 posted on 08/21/2012 11:30:40 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: BillT
I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?

I do...

Also take Flaxseed oil, Omega Fish oil, Good multivitamin, GNC Tri-Flex

Plus these (hardcore bodybuilder) Whey protein, Creatine Monohydrate, ReFeed Anabolic Protein, Pro Performance (Tribulus etc):


8 posted on 08/21/2012 11:30:43 AM PDT by trailhkr1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark.

Thanks SAF!


9 posted on 08/21/2012 11:31:46 AM PDT by Toadman (Objective 2012 - Hussein OUT. Objective 2016 - Romney replaced by a Ryan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BillT
I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY.

Very good points. As a poster boy for poor eating (but not obese), I might eat any significant serving at all of fruits and vegetables three or four times a year -- maybe those would add up to one day a year of adequate intake LOL. Have to start hitting Granny's Buffet more often. But I'm still here, if struggling. a little (not diet related)

First thing I notice looking at the chart -- Tumeric at the bottom??? Sure, if thousands of years of experience with curcumin is all wet.

10 posted on 08/21/2012 11:31:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Snake oil...assumed this was about Al Gore.
11 posted on 08/21/2012 11:34:26 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This thread about turmeric was posted here yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2920560/posts

Your chart shows it as worthless.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 11:34:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BillT
I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?

One serving is a surprisingly small amount. It is only 1/2 cup of raw or cooked food (less for dried). A good sized apple would be 2 servings. One website I looked at said that a cup of sliced bananas is 1 1/3 medium bananas, so a medium banana would be one and a half servings.

And don't even get me started when bing cherries are in season. I found some down to $1.49/lb and annoyed everyone in the office with my piles of stems and pits in the trash.

Veggies, eh, not so much.

13 posted on 08/21/2012 11:38:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I can’t believe this chart left off apple cider vinegar. The benefits of that stuff is just unbelievable.


14 posted on 08/21/2012 11:39:31 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fresh Wind
Your chart shows it as worthless.

Actually the chart just says that it hasn't been subject to any scientifically controlled double blind testing. It could be good, it could be worthless, it could be detrimental but it hasn't been properly tested.

15 posted on 08/21/2012 11:41:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Doink fer later.


16 posted on 08/21/2012 11:44:34 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BillT
“by an adult with a healthy diet”.

Clearly the only way magnesium could end up at the bottom of the bottom tier.

And I can't leave without a jab at the misuse of the word "healthy". The word that should have been used is "healthful".

17 posted on 08/21/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Saw Palmetto does work. I have been taking it for over 15 years. At 58 years old my PSA number is very low.


18 posted on 08/21/2012 11:55:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio

The chart is wrong a some items.


19 posted on 08/21/2012 11:56:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

We all are going to die.


20 posted on 08/21/2012 12:07:41 PM PDT by Osage Orange ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Eventually.

Did you know that the Osage Orange is marginally edible but can also be used to induce vomiting?

LOL


21 posted on 08/21/2012 12:10:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: BillT

magnesium- ??????????

Your body can not process calcium with out it .
The average American diet is sorely lacking in it .


22 posted on 08/21/2012 12:11:00 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rarestia

Blueberries, raspberries, grapes, apples, peaches, pears, pineapple, bananas... all go GREAT with Greek yogurt

And, did you make a loan to pay for all those fruits. Blueberries alone are almost $4 where I live.


23 posted on 08/21/2012 12:19:19 PM PDT by Bitsy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Resveratol?

It’s KNOWN to be a highly powerful antioxidant. You could only say “conflicting” in that it’s hard to put a number on how much healthier you are taking any antioxidant. But there are studies that show it’s absorbed in the system and in large enough doses even assists endurance and athletic performance. Might as well say don’t take vitamin C, E, or any other general antioxidant.

I even read a science article a few months ago describing future anti aging drugs. The comment was: creating an antioxidant a thousand times as powerful as Resveratol. It’s known to be beneficial. The question is simply how big of a dose continues to benefit.


24 posted on 08/21/2012 12:21:16 PM PDT by Advil000
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t see CO-Q10 anywhere.


25 posted on 08/21/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by pcottraux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Squirrels love the Horse Apples........


26 posted on 08/21/2012 12:29:58 PM PDT by Osage Orange ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


27 posted on 08/21/2012 12:31:36 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Advil000

RE: Resveratol?

Unfortunately, the chart puts it in the “conflicting” evidence group.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 12:38:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: BillT
"I don’t know of anyone who eats 7-9 services of fruits and vegetables EVERY DAY. Do you?"

Yep. You have to know what counts as a serving of fruits and vegetables. My favorite drink:


29 posted on 08/21/2012 12:41:56 PM PDT by bolobaby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rarestia
"The only side effect is incredibly vivid and active dreaming, but most of my dreams have been pleasant."

You want an entertaining night of vivid dreaming? Take Melatonin, Valierian, a triple dose of vitamin D and wash it down with some milk and then a warm cup of strong chamomile tea

The chamomile tea I think helps keep it a nice dream and not being chased by vampires or democraps.

30 posted on 08/21/2012 12:42:32 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BillT
It can be done rather easily.

We do 4 or 5 fruits each morning with breakfast and at least two veggies with dinner.

One does not need to eat an entire orange, apple, or banana. 3 or 4 slices and a half banana will do.

Knowing how to be an intellectual shopper helps. My wife is a cracker jack label reader and marketing code interpreter.

I don't know how someone who works every day can do this. We're retired and it still takes real effort to get the shopping done.

31 posted on 08/21/2012 12:49:48 PM PDT by Banjoguy (The U.S. population are now the slaves of all taxing bodies in the country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Bitsy

Live in Florida and usually buy our produce at farmer’s markets.

My wife makes the point quite succinctly: “It’s no wonder Americans are so fat. It’s expensive to eat properly!”


32 posted on 08/21/2012 12:50:32 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: rarestia

“Smilin’ Bob” earns his money.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 12:53:04 PM PDT by steve8714
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: pcottraux
It's listed as ubiquinol.
34 posted on 08/21/2012 12:53:49 PM PDT by doctor noe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: pcottraux
I didn’t see CO-Q10 anywhere.

Me neither. That stuff works and is taking over the pharmacy shelf space where I buy. Stay under or at 100mg and take early in the morning or you may have trouble going to sleep at bedtime; in my case anyway.

35 posted on 08/21/2012 1:01:29 PM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: bolobaby
Yep. You have to know what counts as a serving of fruits and vegetables. My favorite drink:

Be careful of those packages juice drinks..the rule of thumb is anything isn a package that says it "healthy"..it's not. The stuff that is packaged by the food co's that push "healthy" are some of the worst crap to eat.

Better to eat non processed real fruit and veggies.

36 posted on 08/21/2012 1:01:48 PM PDT by trailhkr1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: bmwcyle

Ditto on Saw Palmetto. I remember at one time having a doctor who told me that that was the only supplement he took because it was the only one with proven results.....


37 posted on 08/21/2012 1:04:17 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Romney is not MY candidate for President in 2012.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

I think they’re kind of neat trees. Natural fences.

There are a few here in Michigan and lots of them on the state land that used to be farmland before the depression.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 1:10:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Errant; pcottraux

RE: CO-Q10

It’s listed as ubiquinol in the above chart. But it is listed under the SLIGHT evidence category. Wonder why...


39 posted on 08/21/2012 1:10:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Errant; doctor noe

I try to take it when I can, but it’s just so dang expensive. But yeah, I’ve read so many good things about it. Doctor noe pointed out that it’s listed as ubiquinol, and I’m surprised at where it’s at in the chart. I’ll probably still keep taking it, though.


40 posted on 08/21/2012 1:13:46 PM PDT by pcottraux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


41 posted on 08/21/2012 1:16:23 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I have heard many times over that a deficiency in copper weakens the arteries and causes annurisims? And they are showing it to be worthless?

I question several things on this chart.


42 posted on 08/21/2012 1:26:39 PM PDT by conservativesister
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fungoking

43 posted on 08/21/2012 1:32:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Has this chart been vetted by our wondrous 4 AM gym-RAT FLOTUS?


44 posted on 08/21/2012 1:32:43 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rarestia
It’s expensive to eat properly!”

You are so right. I live in Louisiana - and we have farming and farmer's markets. Last week, green beans were almost $3 a pound IN THE SUMMER! They used to be cheap because we grow them locally. Anyway, I always get angry at the elitist liberals who are trying to punish those who are too fat and telling children they are too fat. Well, ever price a box or twinkies opposed to an orange or a box of craft macaroni & cheese to a cauliflower? Significant differences. And, when you trying to feed a family of 4 or more full nutrition is next to impossible - especially for teens who are hungry around the clock. I am certainly not against healthy eating - I eat vegs., chicken, fish, etc. I am just saying that it is getting next to impossible to eat well.

Now, with obama taking over our food and water supplies last March, I wonder if we will have rationing at some point.

45 posted on 08/21/2012 1:34:45 PM PDT by Bitsy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

bfl


46 posted on 08/21/2012 2:37:13 PM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio

The chart has a “worth it” line, and turmeric is just as far below that line as is possible. I read that as “worthless”.


47 posted on 08/21/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
Lot's a fence rows in KS, and OK....totally Osage Orange.

It's a very interesting tree.....Lot's of uses.

Thousands of Hedge Apple fence posts here in NE Oklahoma....still in use.

A great wood worker's wood....etc, etc...

48 posted on 08/21/2012 3:07:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind; pcottraux
Thanks, I'll go with what I know works for me. I assume we're all a little different. If I miss two days, or even one day of taking CoQ10, I can tell it in my energy level.

I know it was prescribed for my pup when he was having heart trouble and it helped him a lot. I understand it is given to open heart surgery patients.

I take it for energy and to help maintain healthy muscle.

That chart is wrong on vitamin C for sure. Five hundred, 500mg tablets only cost about 6 bucks. Vitamin C improves your immune system's ability to fight infection, your body's ability to heal itself, slows the aging process, enhances your skin condition and is one of the top free radical scavengers available. I've read reports that mega doses are being given to Fukashima workers intravenously, to prevent radiation damage.

This administration and the progressive elite want us dead, ASAP. They're not interested in extending life or in the unborn. That's why they're against anything and anyone that is.

49 posted on 08/21/2012 3:09:25 PM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: All
Information about vitamin C being used by Fukashima workers, begins at 17 mins into the www.trunews.com interview below. http://www.trunews.com/Audio/m3u/6_05_12_tuesday_trunews2.m3u
50 posted on 08/21/2012 3:23:35 PM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson