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Jury finds Apple's patents valid in Samsung trial
Reuters ^

Posted on 08/24/2012 4:10:12 PM PDT by Perdogg

A U.S. jury on Friday said Samsung Electronics Co Ltd has infringed some of Apple Inc's patents, and that all of those patents are valid.

The verdict in the high-stakes trial between the two tech giants was still being read in a federal courtroom in San Jose, California, and not all of the key legal findings had been announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I’ve never seen a Strat with 24 frets. What type of music do you play with a creation like that?


81 posted on 08/24/2012 7:21:56 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: apoliticalone
"You thought it was all a freebie for your benefit. Read their Terms and Conditions."

I'd rather parse their JSON-based APIs. More profitablolol.

But like you say, if you're not paying, you're the product others are paying for...

82 posted on 08/24/2012 7:22:11 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: wastedyears

“The Warmoth Pro necks are better than those on American Series Stratocasters?”

Yes! You know that Fender sent all guitar production to Japan. When they wanted to restart American production, they freaked! “How are we going to make better guitars than the Japanese?” The big secret among the Nashville Cats was,,,,,, get a Japanese guitar! Which I did! Far better than the American guitars! Sorry!


83 posted on 08/24/2012 7:22:12 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: WVKayaker

$300 dollar upgrade for clueless bitchizz is my bet


84 posted on 08/24/2012 7:35:55 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: BunnySlippers

Actually, I build my own machines and set them up manually with open source software. I just finished building a server that has significantly more functionality than any commercial product you’d find in its price range.

“Intellectual property” is a clumsy attempt at applying physical properties to an intangible object. It wouldn’t surprise me if you also equated copyright infringement with theft.

Is “capitalism” your response to Apple’s bad behavior? Then capitalism needs regulations to rein in companies like Apple. It’s trying to claim credit for such innovations as rounded rectangles and filing avalanches of lawsuits over them. Their actions waste money, clog the legal system, and reduce competition by banning competing products. They’re patent trolls, plain and simple.

Whatever that makes me by your definition, those are my guns and I’m sticking to them.


85 posted on 08/24/2012 8:40:27 PM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: aft_lizard
I see. You can tell Apple they are charging too much to their customers who are freely lining up to buy their products at that price.

How very liberal of you.

86 posted on 08/24/2012 9:03:40 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1313 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: VanDeKoik

To their credit.


87 posted on 08/24/2012 9:04:39 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1313 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: House Atreides; af_vet_rr

I worked for Xerox back in that general time frame.

Worst case of corporate tunnel vision I’ve ever seen, or can even imagine.


88 posted on 08/24/2012 9:07:07 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1313 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: DAC21
Well hello monopoly, bye bye competitive prices.

Bingo.

A patent *IS* a monopoly.

It grants a legal monopoly for a limited time to forbid anyone from copying your intellectual property.

It costs a full disclosure of that intellectual property.

When a utility patent expires anyone, anywhere can make the exact same widget or use the exact same code. Your idea becomes the property of all of mankind.

The benefit of your creation outlives the patent, that brief period when only you can make or authorize the manufacture of your idea provides the incentive that drives innovation.

Why would anyone go through all that work if they could not profit from it?

89 posted on 08/24/2012 9:21:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1313 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void

Yep, sometimes a bad “corporate culture” and its resulting blindness precludes recognizing and pursuing bright opportunities—despite the best efforts of some of its best people.


90 posted on 08/24/2012 9:27:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Red in Blue PA
Apple stole the GUI and mouse from Xerox. When are the penalties for THAT?

Sigh. How MANY TIMES do I have to repeat my self on FreeRepublic shooting down this LIE! Apple paid Xerox with 1,000,000 shares of pre-IPO Apple common stock for two eight hour visits to Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) and for the rights to use what they learned there. Xerox sold those shares three years after the public offering for over $16 million.

The mouse was invented by Douglas Engelbart of the Augmentation Research Center (ARC) of the Stanford Research Institute (SRI), not PARC, and Apple paid royalties to SRI until the the patents on the computer mouse expired.

There IS no penalty for that which was bought and paid for, Red. Stop spreading lies!

91 posted on 08/24/2012 10:52:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: aft_lizard
Xerox’s suit was dismissed because they took too long to file it. Apple was suing MS at the time and if Xerox sued Apple and won then both Apple and MS would have been liable to Xerox. Interesting enough is that Apple didn’t win the “look and feel” lawsuit against MS. Except for one tiny thing, the trash icon.

Xerox's suit was filed and then DROPPED by a CEO who was unaware of the agreements that resulted in the Apple visits. Xerox dropped the suit when Apple presented the agreements SIGNED by the previous CEO in its answer to the suit, showing no tortuous conduct took place. They also pointed out the statute of limitations had long since passed, but that was secondary to their primary point.

Apple did not win the Microsoft suit because a judge ruled that a very poorly worded contract that Apple's John Sculley thought limited a use license of their GUI to only Windows version 1, actually was unlimited, and threw out all of Apple's infringement claims based on that contract's wording! There actually were about seven things.

92 posted on 08/24/2012 11:08:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: VanDeKoik
then he is as much of an idiot as they are.

When does your radio show start, obviously Rush the idiot, needs the competition. He drives a MayBach too, because he can afford it.


93 posted on 08/25/2012 12:20:50 AM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, Just to pi$$ off the Romney botts.)
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To: WVKayaker

Are you arguing for or against Apple being a Cult? just curious.


94 posted on 08/25/2012 1:53:38 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Codeflier
I have never met you, yet I know with certainty you are a total Ahole.

Such an intelligent observation. You must have an advanced degree! You must excel in spotting those holes. I have a pretty good 'certainty' about you, as well!

Have a good day, and enjoy the sauna. with your 'boys'...

95 posted on 08/25/2012 3:39:55 AM PDT by WVKayaker (I’m more than happy to accept the dubious honor of being Obama’s “enemy of the week" -Sarah Palin)
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To: Tzfat

Right...


96 posted on 08/25/2012 7:04:47 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Swordmaker
That old chestnut AGAIN?

Xerox Received Financial Compensation from Apple

The compensation for the Xerox PARC technology sharing deal with Apple was in form of $1 million dollars pre-IPO Apple stock / investment (if Apple does well, Xerox will benefit from Apple’s success).

The PARC demo took place in 1979. Xerox received its compensation in exchange for showing some prototypes that Xerox didn’t know what to do with.

“November: Steve Jobs and software engineer Bill Atkinson visit the Xerox PARC lab in Palo Alto, California. More Apple employees will visit a month later.”

“Jobs and several Apple employees including Jef Raskin visited Xerox PARC in December 1979 to see the Xerox Alto. Xerox granted Apple engineers three days of access to the PARC facilities in return for the option to buy 100,000 shares of Apple at the pre-IPO price of $10 a share.”

97 posted on 08/25/2012 7:57:40 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I can say with certainty their software development tools are crap crap from the 1980’s.

Everything from the developers angle is a rehash of old technology.

ANd this "certainty" is based on.....????

I know several people personally who do development for both the OSX platform and the iOS platform - some of which also write for other platforms as well - and they all - every single one - prefer Apple's developer tools. Yes, there was a day when writing apps for Apple's OS was convoluted and inconvenient - that day is long passed. Apple has opened the door to development for their platforms in a big way - thus the reason for the plethora of both great and not-so-great iOS apps.

98 posted on 08/25/2012 8:11:22 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: WVKayaker

WOW! So complicated and convoluted... I guess if one is an idiot...


99 posted on 08/25/2012 8:15:18 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: null and void

You missed the point completely. It’s not the free exercise of spending money or making it, I applaud them for it. It’s those of you who champion Apple as a bastion of the American spirit and it’s American ingenuity while ignoring the fact that they could easily build their devices here and still make money. I would wager the majority of their employees work in call centers and at Genius bars instead of in factories building the iDevices the American people demand. Heck even Samsung employs more manufacturing employees in the US than Apple.


100 posted on 08/25/2012 8:23:14 AM PDT by aft_lizard
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