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What if the moon landings had failed? The moving speech that President Nixon would have delivered
Daily Mail ^ | 25 August 2012 | JAMES NYE

Posted on 08/27/2012 3:54:38 PM PDT by moonshot925

Amid the triumphant success of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin's successful moon-walk in July 1969, NASA and President Richard Nixon's White House breathed a heavy sigh of relief that he didn't have to deliver a speech to the nation entitled 'In Event of Moon Disaster'.

The speech and a memo were prepared in the event that the two Apollo 11 astronauts did not manage to reconnect with their command module piloted by Michael Collins and could not return safely home to Earth.

The memo laid out a list of instructions for President Nixon, among which was the tragic task of calling the 'widows-to-be' to express condolences and then to deliver a moving and thoughtful speech to the United States and ultimately the watching world.

The memo was drafted by Nixon's chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman and the speech by Wailliam Safire who went on to work for the New York Times.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Science
KEYWORDS: apollo11; moonlanding; nixon; richardnixon
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"Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.

These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man.

In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.

Others will follow, and surely find their way home. Man's search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.

For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind."

1 posted on 08/27/2012 3:54:46 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
President Nixon Meets the Apollo 11 Astronauts on the Lawn of the White House, 5 November 1969

2 posted on 08/27/2012 4:03:12 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Thanks for this. Awesome.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 4:05:24 PM PDT by 2big2fail
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To: moonshot925

Its pretty amazing that he didn’t end of giving the speech considered all the potential disasters they encountered.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 4:07:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moonshot925

Domo for the photo !


5 posted on 08/27/2012 4:08:15 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: moonshot925

I wonder if NASA had already figured out the trajectory for Collins to return without the added weight of Armstrong and Aldrin and rocks?


6 posted on 08/27/2012 4:11:18 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: moonshot925

Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin - L-R??

Am I right??


7 posted on 08/27/2012 4:17:02 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: moonshot925
There was real concern that the ascent module might malfunction and fail to launch Armstrong and Aldrin back into moon orbit where they would hook up with the command module (Columbia).

I can only imagine the relief that Armstrong and Aldrin felt when the ascent engine kicked in and launched them skyward. The fact that they might be stranded on the lunar surface to die must have been in the back of their minds. I wonder what would have happened had they been stranded. Would they simply wait to run out of oxygen or would they get it over with quickly by way of cyanide capsule or maybe ripping off their pressure suits and exposing themselves to an instant death. Either way beats running out of oxgen and dying a slow, painful death by way of asphyxiation. I think there was a science fiction story I read a long time ago that dealt with this.

Anyway, glad Nixon never had to give that speech.

8 posted on 08/27/2012 4:17:02 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: moonshot925

Rush talked about this today. I think he was right that there was a one chance shot of firing the rockets to lift off the moon and recouple with the command module. I’d forgotten about that with the lunar landers.


9 posted on 08/27/2012 4:22:15 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: moonshot925
Obama's version of the speech:
"Circumstances that were beyond my control, that I was in no way able to prevent, ordained that the men I sent to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.

I have told these brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, that although I know that there is no hope for their recovery I also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice that they have made for my space program.

I understand with great appreciation that these two men are laying down their lives in pursuit of my most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding and the fostering of Islamic appreciation of the Muslim role over the centuries in the development of science.

I realize that these men will be mourned by their families and friends; I know they will be mourned by their nation; I know they will be mourned by the people of the world; I sense they will even be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown. Most of all, they will be mourned by me, their Commander in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama.

In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one as I stirred the voters to come together as one in our historic election; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man as it works together to establish my dream of fundamental transformation and change.

In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, I do much the same, but my heroes are epic men of flesh and blood and this is why, as military men, they are known as corpsemen.

Others will follow, and surely find their way back to my home, the Earth. My search will not be denied. But these men were the first to follow my dream, and they will remain the foremost in my heart.

For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know, as I do, that there is some corner of another world that is forever a beacon of my hopes and desires for a new world."

10 posted on 08/27/2012 4:23:59 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: eartrumpet; SamAdams76
That is a good question.

Here is what Collins wrote in his book Carrying the Fire

"My secret terror for the last six months has been leaving them on the Moon and returning to Earth alone; now I am within minutes of finding out the truth of the matter," he wrote. "If they fail to rise from the surface, or crash back into it, I am not going to commit suicide; I am coming home, forthwith, but I will be a marked man for life and I know it."

11 posted on 08/27/2012 4:24:04 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: KosmicKitty
L-2-R....
Aldrin... Collins... Armstrong.. POTUS

(helpful) FYI only... 8^)

12 posted on 08/27/2012 4:26:16 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: moonshot925

Which reminds me, has Obama taken credit for the moonshot yet?


13 posted on 08/27/2012 4:28:20 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Oops

Thanks, I was guessing using a 2009 picture as a guide.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 4:33:42 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: aruanan
Obama's version of the speech:

Even though he hasn't been heard of or elected yet, it was Bush's fault.

15 posted on 08/27/2012 4:36:14 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
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To: SamAdams76

I sat in a Mercury capsule at KSC and felt a wave of panic coming on. I cannot imagine the courage all those 60’s astronauts had to go up where nobody can help them in a primitive ballistic spacecraft.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 4:37:21 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Did you know the Stanley Kubrick’s widow says that he directed the fake moon landing footage for NASA??

Some guy claims he left clues in The Shining.

http://news.discovery.com/space/faked-moon-landings-and-kubricks-the-shining.html

I don’t know what to make of all that but I do know the interview by the 3 astronauts is weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI

Notice they don’t say anything about the possible “UFO”. Aldrin didnt talk about that until his old age.

Who knows what Armstrong meant with this weird comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx1SURbb3g


17 posted on 08/27/2012 4:37:52 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: KosmicKitty

Aldrin, Collins, Armstrong, (L-R)


18 posted on 08/27/2012 4:41:16 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: moonshot925

I heard Rush talking about this today. I never heard what the actual plan was if the LEM rocket didn’t fire. Suicide pills?

Either way, my respect for the bravery of these men was raised yet again.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 4:42:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 97+% of the black vote)
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To: RummyChick; Arrowhead1952

Are you trying to suggest that the moon landing did not take place?


20 posted on 08/27/2012 4:42:51 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

_... for later.


21 posted on 08/27/2012 4:49:11 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: RummyChick
Did you know the Stanley Kubrick’s widow says that he directed the fake moon landing footage for NASA??

You realize that claim started because of a French "Mockumentary", which made the claim that Kubrick helped nasa make the fake footage. Moon conspiracy numb-nuts took that footage and claim as the real deal.

22 posted on 08/27/2012 5:00:06 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: RummyChick

I’ve long wished for the ability to delete others posts on FR.


23 posted on 08/27/2012 5:01:43 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: SamAdams76

“The Cold Equations” dealt with not enough fuel and jettisoning a passenger. Larry Niven had one where the guy was stuck on Pluto and choose to take off his suit and take a heroic pose before freezing to death.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 5:02:49 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: moonshot925

Not really suggesting anything.I haven’t paid attention to any of this until Armstrong died.

Given what our government was up to with MK Ultra...I think it is entirely possible that there was a moon landing but some of the footage was made on earth.

It’s possible that they did , indeed, see something they don’t want us to know.

I just know the press conference was weird. Aldrin has indicated there might have been UFOs. Armstrong made a very weird comment decades later.

I don’t think any of the same men went up again.

There is weird footage that looks like one of the astronauts got pulled up by a wire in a later mission...he is on a knee on the surface trying to get up. The other guy says let me give you a hand. Then the guy gets up as if pulled by a wire...but maybe that has something to do with the atmosphere.

Don’t know what the real story is...I just know the depths of the government know no bounds - as seen by MK Ultra. - Of which, we probably don’t know the worst because Helms ordered the evidence destroyed.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 5:03:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

1. When the lunar mission was in progress, the ham radio operators of the world could listen in and track their broadcasts along with the moon. You cannot fake that.
2. To borrow from the comic XKCD, if they faked the moon landing to justify the money, they’d have done it against by now.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 5:08:45 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: RummyChick
There is weird footage that looks like one of the astronauts got pulled up by a wire in a later mission...he is on a knee on the surface trying to get up. The other guy says let me give you a hand. Then the guy gets up as if pulled by a wire...but maybe that has something to do with the atmosphere.

That's the effect of the pressurized suits.

27 posted on 08/27/2012 5:11:43 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: RummyChick
Please put the hallucinogens down and walk away from the computer!
28 posted on 08/27/2012 5:12:39 PM PDT by Reily
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To: moonshot925

WHAT IF THE NORMANDY LANDINGS HAD FAILED?

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The moon landings were nothing when compared to D-Day.

Had D-Day failed, the Swastika would have been planted on the Moon.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 5:20:54 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: moonshot925

The landing at Tranquility Base was far from tranquil. NASA’s plan was to have large fuel safety margins and an abort plan available for any emergency. Yet the ‘Model A’ computer in the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM) went into constant alarm mode which meant that Neil Armstrong had to manually fly the LEM over an unacceptable landing field and finally set down with 15 seconds of fuel remaining. Thus the Houston reply about “... a lot of guys turning blue...” to their Tranquility Base announcement.

R.I.P. Neil, fly with the eagles now!

PS: The first permanent base on the Moon should be named Armstrong-Kennedy but most probably will be some Chinese name instead!


30 posted on 08/27/2012 5:22:19 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Reily

Would have had said the same thing in the 60s if I had told you that the government was drugging innocent people and following them around to watch what happened??

Or that they programmed a person who was scared of guns to kill a person based on just a finger point ..and the person was programmed not to remember it later?

Would you say the same thing about a pedophile ring with a link to an Air Force Base.. that had a link to Penn State- where kids were mentally broken down in order to get them to commit acts on order - such as blackmailable events on members of Congress.

Nah..just fantasy..right???


31 posted on 08/27/2012 5:24:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SES1066

For those that really followed NASA..What does this quote by Armstrong mean

“”There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers,” “


32 posted on 08/27/2012 5:29:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

go away


33 posted on 08/27/2012 5:37:17 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

So what did Aldrin see that he wasn’t suppose to talk about?

Did he just go nuts and make stuff up?

Or did he see a UFO.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 5:39:48 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Nah..just fantasy..right???

So, because the government has been shown to lie about one thing, means that everything else is a lie? Sure, be suspicious, but don't be silly. As for the quote, its a great quote about working hard, and digging to get to the truth, to venture out and discover the Universe.

35 posted on 08/27/2012 5:41:16 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: RummyChick
Or did he see a UFO.

But but but... if they never went to the moon, how did he see a UFO?

36 posted on 08/27/2012 5:43:00 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: tbw2

So what is the real story about the two minute blackout and the supposed ham interception?

There are many people that believe AboveTopSecret is run by the government in order to keep track and post disinformation.

Given comments by Aldrin, the cryptic message from Armstrong, and the weird press conference after the landing - isn’t it possible that they did see something that altered them - whatever that might be.

Armstrong looks either scared or drugged in that press conference. There are moments when his face just looks dreadful.


37 posted on 08/27/2012 5:48:36 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Paradox

I never said they didn’t go to the moon.

I think something happened.

And the US has tried to cover it up.

As I have said many times...MK ULtra should show you there are no bounds when it comes to the US Government.


38 posted on 08/27/2012 5:50:46 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Paradox

Fast and Furious

Franklin Cover Up

Mk Ultra.

CIA rendition plane whose markings had not been changed with over 6000 pounds of Sinaloa cocaine.

Don’t underestimate your government.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 5:53:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers,”


40 posted on 08/27/2012 5:56:26 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Twas Ever Thus)
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To: RummyChick

There were 6 successful moon landings from July 1969 to December 1972.

We have hours of video, thousands of pictures, 382 kilograms of moon rock and millions of eye witnesses.

Why would the government need to cover up something so well documented?


41 posted on 08/27/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Paradox

btw, if I told you that the White Christmas Crooner was involved in a daring plot with the man who orchestrated the plot to kill Castro as well as various other misdeeds (including a brief case to Bebe that led to Watergate) ... to make a porn tape to overthrow a leader in a country that later involved Obama’s mother..would you believe it?

Sound far fetched???

It happened.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: moonshot925

Neil Armstrong was a test pilot by trade. He knew it was a 50/50 chance every time he went up in an experimental or pre-production aircraft the thing might not work as advertised.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 6:09:27 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Twas Ever Thus)
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To: RummyChick
I never said they didn’t go to the moon.

No, but you said that Kubricks widow basically did, with no further comment, how could I not think that you were endorsing or seriously considering that view?

As for the rest, I DONT underestimate the government and what bad they can do, but it doesn't mean everything is a conspiracy.

So, just to get his straight, you DO think that we landed on the moon, (and the Kubrick reference was ... an accident?), you just think that they saw UFO's...

44 posted on 08/27/2012 6:09:41 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: RummyChick

I cannot say that I have “really followed NASA” nor do I know the context of this quote. It appears that you have a conspiracy bent on ‘something’ having happened during this or other Moon missions. I know of nothing like this and I also know the truism about keeping secrets - beyond 2, it gets out.

Conspiracies are seductive but even when genuine, fail the test of time. Our greatest secret operation in history was the Manhattan Project at a time of greatest patriotic zeal yet Joe Stalin knew much about it within a couple of years.

So if it is a conspiracy and is still a secret, it must be a DOOZY!


45 posted on 08/27/2012 6:10:42 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Paradox

I don’t really know what happened.

But then again, I have a very different mind set when it comes to our government.

The average American would have a hard time sleeping at night if they really understood there are no boundaries when it comes to some sections of our Government.

For example, do I believe there was some conspiracy to kill JFK? Do I believe that Cord Meyer said that the same people who killed his wife (who had an affair with JFK) were the same ones that killed JFK? And if he did say it, was it true? What about E Howard Hunt who says the CIA did it???

I don’t know if any of that is true.

But I do believe it could have happened that way.

My mind is open to possibilities of all kinds because our government has no boundaries - which has been shown time and time again - after they get caught.

Too bad for MK Ultra that Helms didn’t get all the documents destroyed. What would have seemed like fantasy was shown to be reality.


46 posted on 08/27/2012 6:19:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

You are going off on tangents I have no interest in. Thanks for your time.


47 posted on 08/27/2012 6:23:11 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: SES1066

But you see, secrets do get out. But sometimes they are so unbelievable that they get dismissed as conspiracy.

Most of the time you never really know the truth. Sometimes, like MK Ultra, something comes to the surface. Be honest, would you have said it was just conspiracy nuts who said the MK ULtra things happened if there hadn’t been documents that came to the surface?

Did the Franklin Cover Up really happen???

You decide.

I think the former CIA Director could have been killed because of it. Notice I said COULD- not was.

Not many would know the truth on that one.


48 posted on 08/27/2012 6:26:48 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Paradox

You should have an interest in what your government is capable of...


49 posted on 08/27/2012 6:28:45 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: KosmicKitty

Aldrin, Collins, Armstrong, Nixon (L to R).


50 posted on 08/27/2012 6:29:28 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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