George Zimmerman judge rejected 'stand your ground' claim in other murder case

Orlando Sentinel ^ | September 5, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

[kanawa]

SANFORD — In May, Circuit Judge Debra Nelson, who has taken over the George Zimmerman murder case, rejected the "stand your ground" claim of a 21-year-old Sanford man who was charged with murder.

A month later, a Seminole County jury acquitted him.

That case, Florida v. Kishawn Jones, is important because it could signal what's ahead for Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Neighborhood Watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old.

Zimmerman is expected to use Florida's "stand your ground" law to try to clear himself. Passed by the Florida Legislature in 2005, the law grants immunity to anyone who uses deadly force if he has a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury.

Zimmerman says he killed Trayvon in self-defense on a rainy February evening in a Sanford gated community after he spotted the Miami Gardens teenager and called the police, describing him as suspicious.

Since Trayvon's death, there has been an influx of "stand your ground" motions in Seminole County.

"We never had them before the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman case," said Assistant State Attorney John Mannion Jr. "Now, they're getting to be routine."

Nelson is the judge who must decide whether Zimmerman deserves immunity. To date, she has held one "stand your ground" hearing — in the case of Jones, a homeless Sanford man who was charged with second-degree murder.

He shot and killed a close friend, 28-year-old Leonard Boone, at a Sanford apartment complex in June 2011 in a dispute over a cheap gun and $20.

[Uncle Chip]

Never mind — I got it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2927908/posts

[MortMan]

Dismissal via a “stand your ground hearing” (as opposed to SYG defense strategy) gives immunity from civil proceedings. SYG as a defense in this case is not applicable. The SYG hearing is valuable to shield Zimmerman from civil liabilities for defending himself is extremely valuable.

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

What a cogent response! Thank you.

[Beach_Babe]

If Zimmerman was on the ground, with a big mother on top of him, who was banging his head against the concrete, why did he have only two little itty-bitty wounds?

More important, how did he defy gravity? The blood flowed, not onto the ground as would be expected, but into his mustache.

[ironman]

The treating EMTs said GZ had a lot of blood on roughly 40% of his head. Your “how did he defy gravity” comment is just plain stuipd. They cleaned him up at the scene. Even so he continued to bleed at the police station were this photo was taken.

[CottShop]

[[Dismissal via a “stand your ground hearing” (as opposed to SYG defense strategy) gives immunity from civil proceedings]]

That’s true, however, I doubt that due to media and pressure from the black comunity that zimmerman can get a fair judgement in a stand your grouind hearing- and as pointed out this judge seems biased agaisnt the SYG arguments- perhaps george’s lawyer can get this judge thrown off the case too if the judge doesn’t rule strictly accordign to the facts and if it becoems apparent the judge is using bias over the stricter letter of the law-

Hopefully this can be thrown out in a hearing which will give george the right to sue all those who brought false accusations/arrests against him and sue those who issued death warrents agaisnt him etc and sue the woman prosecutor for prosecutorial; misconduct