Posted on 09/28/2012 7:32:28 PM PDT by fabian
Affirmative action salvation~ when you have not found nor even believe the true power of what Jesus did for the world; to have real salvation and total freedom over sin. So you water down the message and lower the standard of salvation. That way you help make other poor souls who have also not found full freedom, to feel better about continuing in their sin state. The teachers who propagate this are blind and shame on all of them. How dare they water down the power of our Lord’s victory in order to assuage themselves and the masses! And of course the false belief that Jesus is God in the flesh rather than what he clearly said he is, the son and savior doing the Father's will, allows this false teaching to have wings. After all, how can we expect to be free of sinning when really it was only God that could do that. This is all one big excuse for continuing to sin and still feel good, and I am appalled that the church teaches it so prolifically.
There is a wonderful and simple way to pray silently that the church has lost and will get you onto that wondrous road to true salvation and complete freedom over sinning. Just ask me and I will sent it to you.
You all made me do this! : )
bump!
"...of course the false belief that Jesus is God in the flesh..."
"Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom"
John 14:9 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?"
"...of course the false belief that Jesus is God in the flesh..."
"Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom"
John 14:9 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?"
Yes of course! Because the father was so perfectly represented through Jesus..not literal! Just like Jesus did not mean literally that we are supposed to let people smack us around when he said turn the other cheek. Come on man!
Collosians 1:16-18 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church...
The church is lost and so caught up in wrong doctrine that they cannot even help people much. Better than nothing, but man, it has really fallen down.
and that would be because instead of taking the Word of God as the Word of God it is being led down the garden path by the constant bilge it hears from the god of this world who infects and influences the vain imaginings of people's puffed up minds.We don't need the Bible,we have traditions,we have authority,we have marvelous insights,we have secret knowledge and on and on.
Let us all just quietly push the Word of God aside they whisper and people love it so.
Why...Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart"
Follow your heart,follow the good spirit,follow these insights,follow realizations,follow religious authorities but whatever you do don't allow the Word of God to discern the thoughts and intents of your heart!
It is our ONLY weapon,the "Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God" so just who do you think would want believers to just lay it aside as a hinderance?
This is not a game but it sure is for keeps!
But the word is more powerful coming out of your mouth from your holy spirit...not from the book or you quoting the bible. That is how they wrote that blessed book. So what is wrong with you that you do not have that constant flow of bright expressions original to you?
Ah...revenge threads!
Your false gospel is STILL wrong no matter where you try to peddle it. For anyone out there who may think this is an honest offer to help you overcome the "big deception", don't bother. The BIGGEST deception of all is to persist in foisting an accursed message on those who sincerely seek truth. The Author and Finisher of our faith is Jesus Christ who is Almighty God in the flesh. Just because people have a hard time understanding how Jesus could be both a man AND God in the flesh, doesn't mean it is not true. In fact, I think that, because the Trinity is such a doctrine that must be accepted by faith since it can't be fully grasped by the human mind, it makes even MORE sense that it MUST be true. Not to mention, we have dozens and dozens of Scriptures that define the doctrine for us - it certainly was not a man-made idea - and which the early church utilized to refine the description of it for the Christian faith. It HAS always been believed because it has always been taught from both the Old and New Testaments.
Those who deny the deity of Christ, also must deny His purpose for coming to the earth. They propose He was here only to give us an "example" to live by and that, just as He "earned" eternal life, so can we by doing what He did. This is why this false gospel is so cursed. It rejects who Jesus is, rejects why He came, rejects His sacrifice for sins, rejects the grace of God that brings salvation, rejects the purpose and holiness of the Bible - the Word of God, rejects that we are saved by grace THROUGH faith and rejects that we can know that we have eternal life.
We spent the last two weeks disputing the same subject with you on another thread - a thread where you persistently accused others of hypocrisy, lying, being stupid, being dummies and poor examples of Christians. All because we proved over and over that what you present as the true gospel is really from the pit of hell. That you so flippantly mock Biblical Christianity and Christians demonstrates that you do not seem to know what Christianity is about. The man who you follow - the one who uses the term "big deception" for orthodox Christianity - has set himself up as the only one who can save the world and bring worldwide peace. He is another anti-christ that has gone out into the world, though he is too old to be THE anti-christ. Do not expect that this thread will turn out any better for you than the last one.
Yes, because you guys did indeed lie about a very good man and about his Be Still exercise. You factually were incorrect and I proved it, so you guys are a bunch of hypocrites. You can try to make me out to be the bad guy for calling you all what you are, but all I wished to do was help people which the Be Still genuinely is doing. And all you guys could do is go and misrepresent it all, even to the point of one poster putting up FALSE quotes by Roy. really nasty stuff.
The Word of God is where the power lies - those who speak the truth of the gospel have a part in leading the lost to Jesus Christ. The Gospel, in fact, IS the power of God unto salvation to all those who believe. How shall they be saved if they have not heard? How shall they hear without a preacher? But the preacher is speaking the truth from God's word which was revealed by the Holy Spirit to holy men as they wrote under His direction and leading. The Bible CONTAINS the truth of the Gospel as well as a whole lot more - it is God-breathed Holy Scripture that is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. God-chosen men spoke as they were carried along by THE Holy Spirit - not THEIR own spirits.
What is wrong with YOU that do not have that constant flow of bright expression original to you if that is indeed what Christians are supposed to do? All we've seen from you is ignoring Scripture, misstating Scripture, mocking of those who do know Scripture and name-calling. Not even one "bright original expression" yet. Are you sure Roy Masters has delivered what he promised?
You really are confused ....and the reason I posted this new thread is because the apostasy is very real and has literally taken over much of Christianity and I figured it was time to speak out about it.
But good luck with your attitude and false ideas about people...you need it! Have a good one!
name calling? You have come on the thread which I posted for all yes...and falsely accused my friend Roy of what he is not and then call me the name caller? Hah! and even when presented with facts that his Be Still is far different than eastern types and that he is indeed not cult like at all and does not allow weak hangers on around him...you continue on with your slander. You are a crack up. Have to do a better job at turning things around than that.
By the way, I am in good company because Jesus had some very choice words for the hypocrites of his day. So try again young lady...do a better job this time, ok?
Nope! The really nasty stuff was from you as you from the start called people names and ridiculed and mocked those who hold to Biblical Christianity and the tenets that make up the faith. You want to follow a man who has made up his own religion and who wants to call it Christianity but which is nowhere near the truth. If all you wanted to do is “help people”, then why did you spend the better part of two weeks denying one of the central doctrines of Christianity - the deity of Jesus Christ? I asked you over a dozen times what it had to do with Roy Masters simple (your word) Be Still exercise and you NEVER gave an answer. You proved NOTHING! Who is doing the misrepresenting here? The hypocrisy label is all yours!
No young lady...I have clearly demonstrated throughout that I do have clarity and bright insights from the holy spirit that is not like you all constantly having to quote others. I cannot help it if you are so dull as to not see it. By the way, I am very grateful to God for that, not boasting at all.
Then you are calling Jesus nasty too because he had far stronger words for your type...wrote letter of the law liars. and that is what you all systematically did on my thread..Clearly lie about the true nature of the Be Still and Roy....and don’t blame me young lady...I provided ample evidence of the biblical backing of the Be still and how it is far different than eastern mediation. You guys are slanders of the worst type.
Now go to bed...and maybe try to watch all of those deceptive thoughts in that noggin of yours that are playing like righteousness and truth. Thank you and sweet dreams!
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