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How our cities might explode
Tactical Patriot ^ | 10/1/12 | Matt Bracken:

Posted on 10/02/2012 4:46:54 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: SampleMan

Everybody is fleeing California according to Thomas Sowell, at least the best of the whites and blacks are fleeing, while the welfare types are better off where they are.

“”The latest published data from the 2010 census show how people are moving from place to place within the United States. In general, people are voting with their feet against places where the liberal, welfare-state policies favored by the intelligentsia are most deeply entrenched.

When you break it down by race and ethnicity, it is all too painfully clear what is happening. Both whites and blacks are leaving California, the poster state for the liberal, welfare-state and nanny-state philosophy.””

“”Although California has long been a prime destination of Asian immigrants and the homes of their descendants, the 2010 census shows a striking increase in the Asian-American population of Nevada, more so than any other state. Nevada is adjacent to California but has no income tax nor the hostile climate for business California maintains.

The movement of the black population – especially educated young blacks – is the most striking of all.””


51 posted on 10/02/2012 6:22:55 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Uh?


52 posted on 10/02/2012 6:23:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Uh?


53 posted on 10/02/2012 6:23:40 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Radagast the Fool
It was Reginald Denny who was pulled out of his truck and severely beaten during the Rodney King riots.

I have no excuse for not knowing the right names, but that does not change the question.

I have a question. It's something I've wondered about people being pulled from their vehicles - especially Reginald Denny wasn't he in a Semi?)

If I am in my car, sometimes a Jeep Cherokee, sometimes an old Camero,and I encounter a mob, can the mob prevent me from running them down?

Seriously. What prevents the mob from getting creamed? My sense of human worth? It seems to me that Reginald Denny could have ran them down.

If it were my life, I'd absolutely run a mob over. Or can a mob be so huge, that even a car is useless?

54 posted on 10/02/2012 6:27:37 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SampleMan
Please read the thread. The Hispanic population increase in the So. CA/LA and South Central area specifically, is no secret. You could include TX, CO, AZ, Utah, OR, Georgia etc.

That being said, not all, but the big majority of those Hispanics are hard working people. I know quite a few BTW and I am intimately familiar with the So. CA region.

55 posted on 10/02/2012 6:28:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee
Bttt.

5.56mm

56 posted on 10/02/2012 6:29:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Travis McGee
McGee BTT. Great essay, Matt. May it never become prophetic.

A couple of embellishments if you'll indulge me. For one thing, the first thing that breaks down in this scenario is emergency services. The mob sets a fire and somebody calls the fire department and here comes a big, red, loud, visible truck with easily-identified occupants in to fight the fire...and to get ruthlessly shot. Ambulance services? Forget it. And so the focus of the action turns to emergency rooms, quickly overwhelmed by the wounded of both sides and their friends, who will carry the fight to the sanctuary. I cite Beiruit, Iraq, and Guatemala as recent examples. The prepared neighborhood group had better include medical care because it's the only place that it may safely be provided.

Walled cities. This is, after all, the classic human response to predatory violence from outside. These will be neighborhoods with defensive perimeters, including bulldozed security zones that provide adequate fields of fire. See Israel and the PA for examples.

Logistics. Always this in warfare, and those enclaves who have provided for supply and storage will survive where those less prepared will not. This is true of water and food, but it is more immediately true in the realm of medication - see contemporary Greece for an example.

Social attrition. Small organizations - local gangs through neighborhood defense forces - who lose, will be wiped out. Those allying to a larger group will be protected so long as they are convenient and betrayed and shattered when that becomes more convenient still. People will be killed not for what they have done but for what they are, or worse, what they can be accused of symbolizing. See Bosnia/Herzegovina for an example, or, for that matter, all of human history.

Depressing list? You bet it is. This, however, is the breakdown of society from which the ones who pursue it imagine a stronger, newer, more just society emerging. The phoenix is, however, imaginary, while the ashes are real.

57 posted on 10/02/2012 6:31:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee; CougarGA7

For his second book “Enemies Domestic”, Matt toured much of NM, especially land grant country.

I’m proud to say CougarGA7 and I provided a tiny bit of assistance in the “lay of the land”.


58 posted on 10/02/2012 6:32:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Arrowhead1952

The sniper thing is worrisome as it was one of the worse horrors Selco talks about in his writings. There are any number of people who would take advantage of the chaos just for the thrill of the kill.


59 posted on 10/02/2012 6:32:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dragnet2
I think there's enough blacks in L.A. County to still riot.....

I'd guess the black exodus isn't quite as you've imagined.

That said...these "hard working" Hispanic's will riot with the best of them...............

And I totally disagree....blacks in L.A. will riot every chance they get.

Period.

60 posted on 10/02/2012 6:32:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: dragnet2

My statement was clear enough, the black population is a number of times larger than in the 1965 riots, and that we will see more LA rioting for generations to come.

LA county has about 115,000 fewer blacks than in 1990, and about 900,000 fewer whites, yet about 950,000 more people than in 1990.

I think that we will be seeing more rioting in the future.


61 posted on 10/02/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: familyop
So the answer is, a mob can overpower a vehicle?

But, My Jeep has a 3" suspension lift and is 4WD. If I acted soon enough, I could mow down a crowd and crawl over the bodies, right?

The crowd, of course, seeing a driver that is willing to drive over them, would probably give way a bit right?

It's not all physics - the human factor should be considered. I know this about myself; if it is possible - I'll mow the crowd down. If I'm gonna get my ass whooped anyway, I'm taking some of them down with me.

62 posted on 10/02/2012 6:34:54 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Travis McGee; CougarGA7

So I got snubbed? You guys owe me a beer at least!!!


63 posted on 10/02/2012 6:37:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It was before your arrival on our hospitable shores. ;)


64 posted on 10/02/2012 6:42:41 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Osage Orange
I'd guess the black exodus isn't quite as you've imagined.

Uh, it's not what "I" imagined.

There are source, not mine, all over the place, which have been well documented for years now.

Feel free to look it up.

65 posted on 10/02/2012 6:46:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: KittenClaws

Somewhere around here I have the video of the first cops fleeing the intersection at ground zero as the riot started, and leaving the victims to the crowds as they were being dragged out of their cars, and their cars attacked.

The cops fled for their lives without lending a hand at all.

I have another piece of video of some suburbanites crouching behind their automobile road blocks, protecting their city street with pistols and baseball bats, as thugs cruised by evaluating them and their defenses.

The whispering, crouching yuppies, said that cops occasionally came by, and that they had to hide their guns from them, it is incredible video.


66 posted on 10/02/2012 6:47:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: KittenClaws
I don't know either cars or physics, but I think you've hit on the key thing. You just have to "go for it". Most likely, everyone would desperately try to get out of your way. Then you have your chance and you just seize that opportunity. What causes people to lose their opportunity is the little thought that: "I can't run these people over! I might get arrested!!"

If you can really grasp the fact that the mob wants to kill you, and the police aren't gonna do a darn thing, then you can more freely "go for it" and get the heck out of trouble.

Of course, if bodies get trapped underneath the vehicle and your progress is stopped, then you may not have a Plan B -- but failure to execute Plan A would have you in the same spot, right?

67 posted on 10/02/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: dragnet2; Osage Orange

It is described in post 51 by Thomas Sowell, the best and brightest, white and black, have been fleeing California for many years.


68 posted on 10/02/2012 6:50:41 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Take it up with the muliple sources all over the place. They are not MY sources BTW Blacks being replaced in South Central LA by mostly hard working Hispanics is no secret, except maybe to you.

""The black population of Los Angeles has shrunk from nearly 20 percent of the city’s overall population in 1970 to less than 10 percent today.""

http://newamericamedia.org/2011/03/black-urban-flight-changing-americas-political-face.php

BTW, you seem angry the black population has substantially increased in the south. You'll have to just deal with it.

69 posted on 10/02/2012 6:50:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer

More to add to the rioting zombie hordes.

Lockheed: Sure, we’ll keep our workers in the dark about layoffs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2939342/posts


70 posted on 10/02/2012 6:51:17 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: ansel12
cops occasionally came by, and that they had to hide their guns from them

I think there is a very -- very -- good chance that in the event of a full societal breakdown, everybody from the yuppies to the ghetto trash, will be taking out anyone in a blue uniform. The cops are a violent gang that wants to come out on top. They are not anyone's friend and I think that will be readily apparent. They won't last long.

71 posted on 10/02/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Lose power and water and SoCa becomes pretty miserable.


72 posted on 10/02/2012 6:57:43 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ansel12
". . . The cops fled for their lives without lending a hand at all. . ."

OK, lets say I don't blame them, as if blame would be an issue.

That's what I expect even in Texas.

So what about a 4WD and a little widowmaker?

I have a game on my iPhone - Zombie Highway. You Pop 'em, scrape 'em off, and keep goin'.

If this sort of scenario ever occurs, I'm thinking all bets are off. I'm one of the few left (IMO), that will put my safety first.

I just wondered if it was do-able.

What I've learned is, 4WD is good, worrying who I "hurt" is stupid and should be ignored, have a gun for the difficult spots.

73 posted on 10/02/2012 6:59:23 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: dragnet2

Are you reading my posts?

I am agreeing with you, I even posted numbers supporting you and pointing out that Texas for instance has almost twice the black population by percentage, as California.

I posted Sowell pointing out that the more educated and well off whites and black have been fleeing California for many years.


74 posted on 10/02/2012 7:00:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Travis McGee; CougarGA7

Speaking of NM and Books. If you like western then get the The Brothers O’Brien series by William W. Johnstone. EXCELLENT READS! And all set on your side of the mountains!


75 posted on 10/02/2012 7:01:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ansel12

Just out of curiosity, what state are you in?


76 posted on 10/02/2012 7:01:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2; Osage Orange; ansel12; SampleMan
Many Blacks Abandoning North/Urban Areas, Moving South/Suburban (for same reasons everyone else is)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2694931/posts

US CENSUS DATA: Black Americans Are Moving South.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2695839/posts

Census: More Blacks in South Moving to Suburbs, GOP Regions to Become Democratic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2691836/posts

The Great Remigration - Blacks are abandoning the northern cities that failed them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2932517/posts

New York City Losing Blacks, Census Shows
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1608719/posts

Census shows black population expanding in Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2687586/posts

Why blacks are voting with their feet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2696227/posts


77 posted on 10/02/2012 7:06:16 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: ansel12
Some may have left, but without question, CA has more well educated people than anywhere else on the planet. Ya see, CA has the best and worst of everything. Been like that for many years, nothing new.

Of course, many of the worst, like Charley Mason, Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Schwarzenegger etc., etc, are all imports.

78 posted on 10/02/2012 7:07:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cvengr
"SoCa becomes pretty miserable."

More than it is already? That's hard to believe. ;-)
79 posted on 10/02/2012 7:08:03 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: KittenClaws

I wouldn’t expect cops to flee in Texas or most anywhere else, and leave the people as they are being murdered right in front of them.

Just because you learn that it happened in LA, does not mean that it is to be expected.

Using your car is fine, and hope that they can’t stop you with road blocks, or take you by surprise like they did Reginald Denny and many others, including those people that the cops drove around to get past them and what was happening to them

Big city mobs can swallow up a person with a pistol, or even shoot back.


80 posted on 10/02/2012 7:08:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: familyop

“Black Americans Are Moving South”

Yep, that was my point. That would include many moving to the east coast, etc.


81 posted on 10/02/2012 7:09:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Gosh, can’t you tell?


82 posted on 10/02/2012 7:10:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: familyop; KittenClaws

Well, the Camaro might work more like a wedge/snow plow and toss rioters over the top on the hood (and possibly through the windshield). I’d guess that would happen before they got caught up in bodies underneath. Depends on the ride height. If the bumper hits them much around the knee area, they are probably going up and over.

Makes it tough to drive with a rioter in your windshield.

You’d probably scatter quite a few of them though if you stomped on the gas. But if you get stuck, you are toast. Of course you might have been toast anyway in that situation.


83 posted on 10/02/2012 7:11:12 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: ClearCase_guy
don't know either cars or physics, but I think you've hit on the key thing. You just have to "go for it". Most likely, everyone would desperately try to get out of your way. Then you have your chance and you just seize that opportunity. What causes people to lose their opportunity is the little thought that: "I can't run these people over! I might get arrested!!"

If you can really grasp the fact that the mob wants to kill you, and the police aren't gonna do a darn thing, then you can more freely "go for it" and get the heck out of trouble.

I'm positive that I will know if a mob wants to kill me and in that scenario police presence would not be a factor. Humanity might, my good raising might. I mean, no normal person wants to kill others, no matter the situation - I think that's what got Reginald Denny

Of course, if bodies get trapped underneath the vehicle and your progress is stopped, then you may not have a Plan B -- but failure to execute Plan A would have you in the same spot, right?

I've climbed up granite slabs at angles that would curl your hair - extreme 4 x 4 - though not in my Cherokee. But my Cherokee could crawl over items stacked, in my estimation, at least 4 ft tall, if I didn't lose my head and try to go too fast.

While crwalin', I'd be shooting.

Better them than me.

The old Camero? Well, I'm selling it. (I say old, so ya'lll know I did not participate in the bailout, it's really not that old).

84 posted on 10/02/2012 7:13:36 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: familyop

You don’t have to tell, I have been watching it happen.

Even the Huffington Post noticed.
“”The liberal fantasy of “racial balance” in Southern California is coming to an end. As Latino and Asian immigrants continues to pour in, Whites and Blacks pour out. Larger and larger swaths of Southern California are now ethnic enclaves for either Asians or Latinos.

University of Southern California professor Dowell Myers calls the transition period between majority White to majority Latino or majority Asian “the good period.” Myers, who appears to be part White and part Asian, holds onto a fantasy that parts of California will remain in “the good period.” He says White people aren’t fleeing, which is completely false. The census data shows that White people and Black people are now leaving Southern California en mass.

Myers says the big cities are leaving “the good period” of “racial balance” and going solid Latino or Asian. He says the suburbs are now entering “the good period.” He holds onto a fantasy that the suburbs will stay in “the good period.”

In the past twenty years, the number of White people in California has dropped by two million. The rate at which whites are leaving the state is increasing. During that same time period, six million Latino and two million Asian immigrations moved in.

Orange County has lost 15% of it’s entire white population.””


85 posted on 10/02/2012 7:13:44 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12; KittenClaws
I wouldn’t expect cops to flee in Texas or most anywhere else

You need to educate yourself.

See what happened recently next door in Louisianian. They not only fled en mass, but were found looting etc.

86 posted on 10/02/2012 7:15:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12

What state are you in?


87 posted on 10/02/2012 7:16:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12

I wouldn’t expect cops to flee in Texas or most anywhere else, and leave the people as they are being murdered right in front of them.

Just because you learn that it happened in LA, does not mean that it is to be expected.

Using your car is fine, and hope that they can’t stop you with road blocks, or take you by surprise like they did Reginald Denny and many others, including those people that the cops drove around to get past them and what was happening to them

Big city mobs can swallow up a person with a pistol, or even shoot back.

_____________________________________

I don’t expect cops to abandon their posts. But, it COULD happen. Or perhaps, there are no cops available.

My question only addressed the ability to drive through a mob.

And are you tellling me that Reginald Denny was caught by suprise? If I had been in a semi, I’d have plowed me some rioters.


88 posted on 10/02/2012 7:19:37 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Kartographer

I love seeing this come back around and around!

In fact, it’s going to be in the next two print editions of Soldier of Fortune magazine.

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/


89 posted on 10/02/2012 7:25:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ansel12
What state are you in?

Gosh, can’t you tell?

No, it's not posted on your page. Are you afraid or embarrassed to say?

90 posted on 10/02/2012 7:29:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2; KittenClaws

We saw that about New Orleans.

I like this video from Texas, some brave hombres are in it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=677200n


91 posted on 10/02/2012 7:31:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Betis70

I’m just saying. Well, I wouldn’t worry about where I was driving with a rioter on my windshield; who needs to see in that scenario?

I’d say, when you see what’s happening, floor it. I don’t want to hit people, but people don’t want to be hit either.

If you slow down to “make your way through the crowd” your’re dead.

IMHO, Reginald Denny cared about human life, so he slowed down. The sub-human crowd beat him half to death for his trouble. The crowd that attacks me can only hope that I care.


92 posted on 10/02/2012 7:31:37 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws
If I am in my car, sometimes a Jeep Cherokee, sometimes an old Camero,and I encounter a mob, can the mob prevent me from running them down? Seriously. What prevents the mob from getting creamed?

Google the Crown Heights riots, among others. If you plow into the crowd to escape, you had better escape! If the bodies are too thick in front and you come to a stop, the fully enraged crowd will literally rip to to pieces with their bare hands. Seriously.

Plus, what makes you think you will be car #1 with just a few rioters in front? If so, yes, by all means put the hammer down.

But what if you are car #17 in gridlock with 100s of swarming rioters? Then what? You had better have helicopter rotors ready to unfold in a big, big hurry for a vertical escape.

93 posted on 10/02/2012 7:33:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee
We seem to have two scenarios here. (1) One is rioting due to the outcome of the election. (2) The other one is, an economic collapse and those EBT cards not working causing the start of riots due to holders of the card not being able to get food.

1. Election riots: Fill up your car before the day of the election. Have everything you need for several days. Keep aware of events AND STAY HOME THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION IF YOU POSSIBLY CAN. The days after that will take care of themselves - either you can leave the house or it is too dangerous to leave. Preppers will have everything they need for a long time if necessary.

2. Economy collapse riots: People with EBT cards cannot buy food. They will go to grocery stores and walk out with food without paying. Others do the same, riots start and grocery stores become empty as well as stop and go places. Fast food restaurants will be hit for food.

I do not see residences being looted as long as there is still food concentrated in stores. After that is gone, let's say three or four days, some residences will be attacked, but remember, 99% of people don't keep much food in their home and they likely have eaten all they had by then. Looters will figure this out and see no reason to go to more homes and risk being shot - especially in Texas, they will be dead.

Dead for nothing will mean something to looters who are still alive and they are now hungry and thirsty - they will go where they think there is much food and water. They will head to rural areas where they mistakenly think people in the country have lots of food growing behind their houses and there are chickens and cattle, plus they have water wells, lots of water.

Most people in rural areas, likely 95%, get their food at grocery stores and if they have a well, they have to have power to get water out. Rural people living within one tank of gasoline from a city will see zombies sooner than people living farther out.

While Travis paints a gory picture of guns and rifles, I don't think there will be a protracted war scenario due to the zombies need for food and water. There is no point in fighting if there is no food and water for which to fight.

I think the zombies will spread out fairly quickly into the countryside for that food and water which likely won't be there. The farther away you are from a city, the more likelihood many zombies will be dead from lack of water and food before they get to you.

There is one place they know for sure they can get water and that is a lake and there are fish to eat there. I expect lake areas to have a concentration of zombies.

If there is a zombie war, I think it will be in lake areas as people try to take back those lakes.

I left out law enforcement because I think they will be fairly useless due to their low numbers compared to the number of zombies and they will probably be with their families since they know they are totally outnumbered.

My rationale is, zombies need food and water and that will guide the direction of their movement.

Preppers will be prepared for any eventuality but there are not many preppers per capita in this country.

94 posted on 10/02/2012 7:35:28 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: dragnet2

It seems you are getting angry and trying to go personal for some reason.

This thread shouldn’t be causing that reaction, you don’t need to start building a personal profile to understand our posts.

I agree with you that millions of better quality whites and blacks are fleeing California, and have been since at least the mid 1980s.

I do disagree with thinking that the riots are over.


95 posted on 10/02/2012 7:36:05 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: dragnet2
You need to educate yourself.

See what happened recently next door in Louisianian. They not only fled en mass, but were found looting etc.

Did you see my answer? In part:

I don’t expect cops to abandon their posts. But, it COULD happen. Or perhaps, there are no cops available

I'm expecting to see things I've never imagined.

But my concern is ME and MINE. No matter the cost!

96 posted on 10/02/2012 7:37:40 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

Going by memory, I think that he was not aware of the riot, he had been listening to classical radio and didn’t know what was happening.

I drove in there to take pictures once they got the curfew going.

You do the best you can with what you have, and starting out with a car and a pistol is a heck of a lot better than nothing, but riots can swallow people up.


97 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Marcella

One thing I didn’t mention in the original essay (it was already 6K words long!) was that in any prolonged crisis with no delivery, the pharmacies will be stripped bare and will not be resupplied. Lots of folks are only walking around peacefully today because of their modern and effective antipsychotic meds.

Take away their meds, put them under extreme stress, hunger, fear etc, and they will be extremely, hyper, mega dangerous to the general society. Their “bad example” in public will be copied by many others who are just a hair less crazy, and so the cascade of violence will continue.


98 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

But what if you are car #17 in gridlock with 100s of swarming rioters? Then what? You had better have helicopter rotors ready to unfold in a big, big hurry for a vertical escape.

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Definately something to think on. Perhaps vertical is not the only choice?

Left? Right? Reverse?

Take down as many as I can before being overwhelmed? And that’s it.

If I can’t get out, I’ll use every effort, and every bullet but one. Because they won’t take me alive for their plaything.


99 posted on 10/02/2012 7:48:08 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Travis McGee

Since I have a lifetime subscription, I won’t be missing it.

Did you know that they had that subscription during a very tiny window, back in the 1990s, I never learned why.


100 posted on 10/02/2012 7:48:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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