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How our cities might explode
Tactical Patriot ^ | 10/1/12 | Matt Bracken:

Posted on 10/02/2012 4:46:54 PM PDT by Kartographer

In response to recent articles in mainstream military journals discussing the use of the U.S. Army to quell insurrections on American soil, I offer an alternate vision of the future. Instead of a small town in the South as the flash point, picture instead a score of U.S. cities in the thrall of riots greater than those experienced in Los Angeles in 1965 (Watts), multiple cities in 1968 (MLK assassination), and Los Angeles again in 1992 (Rodney King). New Yorkers can imagine the 1977 blackout looting or the 1991 Crown Heights disturbance. In fact, the proximate spark of the next round of major riots in America could be any from a long list cribbed from our history.

We have seen them all before, and we shall see them all again as history rhymes along regardless of the century or the generation of humankind nominally in control of events. But the next time we are visited by widespread, large-scale urban riots, a dangerous new escalation may be triggered by a fresh vulnerability: It’s estimated that the average American home has less than two weeks of food on hand. In poor minority areas, it may be much less. What if a cascading economic crisis, even a temporary one, leads to millions of EBT (electronic benefit transfer) cards flashing nothing but ERROR? This could also be the result of deliberate sabotage by hackers, or other technical system failures. Alternatively, the government might pump endless digits into the cards in a hopeless attempt to outpace future hyperinflation. The government can order the supermarkets to honor the cards, and it can even set price controls, but history’s verdict is clear: If suppliers are paid only with worthless scrip or blinking digits, the food will stop.

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Some interesting and chilling scenarios.
1 posted on 10/02/2012 4:46:56 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

For you consideration, comments and critique.


2 posted on 10/02/2012 4:48:06 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thomas Sowell when asked what will happen if Obama looses...Race riots was his answers. it is all being set up by the polls, the Obama media and others.... keep your powder dry


3 posted on 10/02/2012 4:52:25 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Kartographer

This is where I think our right wing talkers have failed us.

If there is rioting in the cities, it doesn’t require a response in the country and I wish our radio people were differentiating the rural from the urban areas. For that matter, rioting in a city always ends with the rest of the country paying for it financially and that needs to stop.


4 posted on 10/02/2012 4:55:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

We need bore Korean shopkeepers/businessmen.


5 posted on 10/02/2012 4:58:21 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: cripplecreek

We need bore Korean shopkeepers/businessmen.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 4:59:10 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: OKSooner

Own-sef ping.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 4:59:33 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Kartographer

Sorry to reference this on FR, but last month I read a work of fiction along these lines (NSFW) entitled “The Collapse” that can be found on an adult site called ‘Literotica’. The first 2/3 of the story are the relevant portion and the parallels to this story are remarkable. Remarkable for the fact that it’s not just a handful of people who are now contemplating this kind of situation.


8 posted on 10/02/2012 5:00:39 PM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Kartographer

It’s well worth reading the entire article down to the point where vigilante sniper teams launch their counterattack against the urban flash mob rioters.

This scenario is likeliest in cities where the Entitlement Community holds majority sway.


9 posted on 10/02/2012 5:05:54 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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To: Kartographer
What the more well-fed socialist political folks don't want you to see:

Oh, yeah, some of the poorest folks riot in some city from time to time. But they're accustomed to "austerity." Watch, instead, for the cream of the political constituent crop from both parties perpetrating the mother of all riots.

See Greece and other countries that are recently repudiating debt ("haircuts:" the sneakier form of repudiation).

Bonds will collapse. Skyrocketing interest rates will follow, and a collapse of business and government activity after that. Pensioners will take "haircuts." Planners, teachers, police, building inspectors will be unemployed or have their incomes severely cut! NGOs will close! Business, lacking its usual government-funded customers, will shut down. The vicious cycle will repeat again and again. Most of the middle class and much of the upper is now supported by funding from government.

Most of those who now receive larger incomes and benefits from government will be the most noticeable rioters of the near future. Many, having already lost their jobs, are part of the new crime demographic (cattle rustlers with fancy rigs, apparent former middle class bank robbers in ski resorts, the new wave of officious robberies backed only by outrageous regulations and false allegations, all).


10 posted on 10/02/2012 5:06:28 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Breto

Sowell was fearful of a white backlash, was he not? In essence, he pointed out that the media is trying to put a lid on racist attacks on whites for fear of such a backlash, but that won’t stop it.


11 posted on 10/02/2012 5:07:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Kartographer; DIRTYSECRET
FYI, a huge portion of the black population that once existed in S. CA, left LA en mass over the past 20 year or so, headed to places east and south bound, like Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, east coast and north east. They were replaced by Hispanics, many of which are hard working folks.

The days of large riots driven predominantly by black folks, over things like court trials, won't be repeated in the LA region.

Much of the black population took the midnight train to Georgia, Texas and other points east and south.

12 posted on 10/02/2012 5:08:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

More of them, not bored ones, right?


13 posted on 10/02/2012 5:10:51 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dragnet2

I think they could still throw a pretty good riot if the wanted to:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/09/28/riots-break-out-between-black-latino-students-at-victorville-school/


14 posted on 10/02/2012 5:13:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dragnet2

Oh I think the La Raza crowd wouldn’t pass up and opportunity to seize some territory and unlike blacks, they’re downright genocidal.


15 posted on 10/02/2012 5:16:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kartographer

That is one of the points east where they left too. BTW, Victorville is a relatively small town, far from LA, out in the desert. Many left to the inland empire of s. CA, but most kept going east, south, etc.


16 posted on 10/02/2012 5:18:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer

when the ebt cards stop working, the violence will be extreme.


17 posted on 10/02/2012 5:22:24 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: Kartographer
Census Results Reveal Blacks Leaving Large Cities

According to census data, Los Angeles has seen its Black population shrink from around 18 percent in 1970 to 9.9 percent four years ago.

http://www.lasentinel.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3131:census-results-reveal-blacks-leaving-large-cities&catid=70&Itemid=160

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BTW, this is substantial!

18 posted on 10/02/2012 5:25:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee

Y’all do realize this is our very own FRiend Travis, dontcha?


19 posted on 10/02/2012 5:26:37 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Travis McGee
Your scenario for what will happen is pretty darned accurate IMHO.

You might want to post it again here so the uninitiated can get ready.

20 posted on 10/02/2012 5:29:07 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Kartographer

It sounds like whites (and middle-class blacks) should get out of the big cities — or buy some major guns and ammo. The suburbs will be ready to ‘repel boarders’.


21 posted on 10/02/2012 5:29:27 PM PDT by expat2
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To: backwoods-engineer; Travis McGee
No I didn't!

Well Done Travis!
22 posted on 10/02/2012 5:30:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Either you meant “more”, or perhaps “large bore”. Either works for me.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 5:33:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: MeganC

There was another story written in 1912 called “The Scarlett Plague” by Jack London where the collapse started in 2013. It was about a grandfather telling his grandkids of how life was before the collapse and what happened. It took place around the same time as “The Collapse.”


24 posted on 10/02/2012 5:33:32 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Kartographer

re: Matt Bracken

http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com


25 posted on 10/02/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Kartographer

US Debt Soars To $16,159,487,013,300.35, +$93 Billion; Or How To Kick Off Fiscal 2013 With A Bang
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2939279/posts


26 posted on 10/02/2012 5:37:07 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Kartographer; cripplecreek
LOS ANGELES--A decade ago it was odd to see young (and not-so-young whites) walking their dogs, jogging and attending community meetings around my neighborhood in the western section of South Los Angeles. That’s not the case anymore.

Young and not-so-young whites are now a fixture in the neighborhood—and in many others. The black population of Los Angeles has shrunk from nearly 20 percent of the city’s overall population in 1970 to less than 10 percent today.

The population shift has happened in parts of every major city from Oakland to Washington, D.C., including cities that at one time were either exclusively or predominantly black. The latest U.S. Census figures more than confirm that America’s urban racial and ethnic demographics are fast changing.

http://newamericamedia.org/2011/03/black-urban-flight-changing-americas-political-face.php

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You go into places like Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana etc, and you will see a substantially growing black population.

27 posted on 10/02/2012 5:38:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer

bfl


28 posted on 10/02/2012 5:39:27 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Kartographer
In response to recent articles in mainstream military journals discussing the use of the U.S. Army to quell insurrections on American soil,

Unless things have changed in the past few months, I don't think the military forces will fight the American public. I served for almost 40 years, and not many supported this regime. That includes all races with blacks who felt stupid voting for the won just because of skin color. Believe me, the sniper numbers on our side are in our favor.

29 posted on 10/02/2012 5:41:42 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: dragnet2
You go into places like Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana etc, and you will see a substantially growing black population.

Its exactly why I will stay in the north. People always flee south. When it all goes to crap, people just don't head for the cold but those of us who are used to it can thrive with fewer people and even use the cold to our advantage.
30 posted on 10/02/2012 5:45:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kartographer

One example:

County worker (Psychiatrist) charged with trail sabotage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2939254/posts

There’s a growing wave of crimes committed by people of similar status and background all over the country. When they lose their jobs or have their incomes cut, they’ll explode.

As for poverty, that doesn’t cause crime. Immorality does, and it’s exhibited in all economic classes.


31 posted on 10/02/2012 5:45:45 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Kartographer

Prophetic article.


32 posted on 10/02/2012 5:46:59 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Believe me, the sniper numbers on our side are in our favor.

It would take a considerable number of soldiers to control a large city like NY or LA. There just aren't enough soldiers to control literally thousands of small towns and the surrounding rural territory. Plus there's the fact that the majority of our troops come from flyover country and really aren't interested in trying to control people they're familiar with.
33 posted on 10/02/2012 5:49:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dragnet2

States like that have always has large black populations Texas is something like 12.5% black for instance, California has always had a small percentage of blacks, like 6.5% and 7.5% of the population.

People move out of failing states, and to more successful states, but nothing will end LA as the home of unstable populations and rioting.


34 posted on 10/02/2012 5:57:59 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Kartographer
I have a question. It's something I've wondered about people being pulled from their vehicles - especially Rodney King (wasn't he in a Semi?)

If I am in my car, sometimes a Jeep Cherokee, sometimes an old Camero,and I encounter a mob, can the mob prevent me from running them down?

Seriously. What prevents the mob from getting creamed? My sense of human worth? It seems to me that Rodnely King could have ran them down.

If it were my life, I'd absolutely run a mob over. Or can a mob be so huge, that even a car is useless?

35 posted on 10/02/2012 6:03:09 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: cripplecreek
To be clear, the La Raza crowd in So. CA anyway, is relatively small. Most of the Hispanics are clearly hard working and seem to get along. I have no problem with them.

Going back in LA anyway, many blacks had difficulty getting along with the Jewish biz owners, many of whom owned many of the businesses in south LA in the 60's. Yes there was racism, but many looked for an excuse in Watts circa 1965.

Roll forward to the 92 event, over 20 years ago now, many of the blacks and black gangs once here took advantage of the Rodney King event. At that time, they did not get along with the Koreans and Asian biz owners. For many, not all blacks, it became a great excuse in 92.

For whatever reasons, 45 plus years ago, and up until 20 years ago, the blacks didn't like the Jews, didn't like the Asians, and or whites. Which was evident. In fact, many didn't like each other.

Why much of the black population has left So. CA For points east and south is up for debate and is much speculated about.

36 posted on 10/02/2012 6:03:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12
States like that have always has large black populations Texas

I was referring to the LA/Southern CA area. No matter how ya chop it up, So.CA black population going from 20 percent to 9 percent, it really substantial.

37 posted on 10/02/2012 6:07:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12
States like that have always has large black populations Texas

I was referring to the LA/Southern CA area. No matter how ya chop it up, So.CA black population going from 20 percent to 9 percent, is really substantial.

38 posted on 10/02/2012 6:08:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ansel12
People move out of failing states, and to more successful states

BTW, the exodus of blacks moving out of So. CA, to points east and south has been going on for several decades now, during the good times.

39 posted on 10/02/2012 6:11:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: KittenClaws

It was Reginald Denny who was pulled out of his truck and severely beaten during the Rodney King riots.

I was in LA then-and I remember how the limousine liberals were trying to buy guns to protect themselves-and the fools were incensed that there was a two-week waiting period to buy a gun-even though they were the ones who insisted on gun-buying waiting periods.


40 posted on 10/02/2012 6:12:42 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Be Brave! Be Brave! Be Brave!" -"War Horse")
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To: dragnet2

But the actual numbers are several times what they were in 1965, and the population that is joining them, is not exactly riot averse.

LA isn’t going to become a riot free zone, it will be blowing off steam for generations to come.


41 posted on 10/02/2012 6:13:38 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 21twelve

I just got a .50 Beowulf upper for my AR-15 and cannot wait to take it out. Large bore would be a good deterent. Shoot a few and watch the other run in shear panic as they leave their friends half and half bodies lying on the ground.


42 posted on 10/02/2012 6:13:49 PM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: KittenClaws
"If I am in my car, sometimes a Jeep Cherokee, sometimes an old Camero,and I encounter a mob, can the mob prevent me from running them down?"

Theoretically speaking, a Camaro with stock height suspension wouldn't go very far over bodies in the mob. Camaros generally ride low. The wheels would soon be raised off of the ground and unable to get any traction. Then...well, you know.

Same for the Jeep Cherokee. It would do better than the Camaro but unable to get traction, after bodies were stuffed about four high or so under it.

But you might give that Cherokee a suspension lift job with over-sized tires and maybe a stroker job on the engine (for more low-end power)! Then, with over-sized off-road tires and sufficient revs in four, low (gear, assuming it's a four-wheel-drive), it could go over quite a pile of bodies!

Interesting physics problem, eh?

[More than a little silly irony and sardonic humor there.]


43 posted on 10/02/2012 6:14:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: dragnet2

Apples and oranges. Decreasing percentage does not equate to leaving. The hispanic numbers have just gone up.


44 posted on 10/02/2012 6:15:45 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: cripplecreek

That is where the UN steps in. Blue helmets make good targets. But if this happens with Barry in Office I would not put it passed him to call his Comarades in the the Soviet Union to come help. Or even the Muslim Brotherhood.


45 posted on 10/02/2012 6:16:00 PM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Olog-hai

“Sowell was fearful of a white backlash,”was he not?

Not at all.... He fears an eruption in the minority community.


46 posted on 10/02/2012 6:16:16 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: cripplecreek
It would take a considerable number of soldiers to control a large city like NY or LA.

Just takes a few that take out the electrical substations in the "hoods" to make living very uncomfortable. If wasn't for the Loose lips sink ships warning, I'd post it here.

47 posted on 10/02/2012 6:18:41 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: ansel12
I have no idea what you're talking about. I gave you some facts, and your off reading a crystal ball forseeing the future. My only point here is where the large black population was in southern central LA, has been substantially reduced and many left to the south and east.

It's no secret.

48 posted on 10/02/2012 6:20:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: cripplecreek

personally they’re psychotic/satanic.


49 posted on 10/02/2012 6:21:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: crazydad

I looked at the .50 Beowulf, and it would certainly have its applications (besides murderous mobs, even). Have a look at the Stag 6.8 SPC II with 1:11 twist, if you haven’t done so already (especially terminal ballistics). [Ballistics nerd here. Not much danger of murderous mobs here, in the middle of frozen, high-altitude nowhere.]


50 posted on 10/02/2012 6:22:45 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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