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How to Stockpile Antibiotics for Long Term Survival
Daily Survival ^ | 10/19/12 | The Survival Woman

Posted on 10/19/2012 6:34:47 PM PDT by Kartographer

A month or so ago, I happened to mention that I had purchased some antibiotics to stockpile for long term survival purposes. It’s not, you know, that I believe in popping antibiotics every time I get a sniffle. Nothing could be further from the truth. But a recent situation where I had a very bad tooth abscess that had to go untreated for almost a week convinced me that antibiotics for use in a collapse situation were an important part of my preps. Let me say this: I am not a health care professional nor am I especially qualified on all things health related. On the other hand, I do believe in medical self-care and I do believe in doing my own research. It was during that research that I learned that fish antibiotics are the exact same formula as human antibiotics. WTF? This was not casual research. I went to many sources, looked at bottles, and asked a lot of questions. I came away confident that lacking proper medical facilities, the judicious use of fish and veterinary antibiotics would be safe in a SHTF situation. And the best part about it? They are readily available online at reasonable prices without a prescription.

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1 posted on 10/19/2012 6:34:54 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Aren’t ‘human antibiotics’ available on-line without a prescription?


2 posted on 10/19/2012 6:37:14 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Please consider this our Weekly Preppers'Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice ...

OK to start things Off I got 10 of these on clearance at Walmart betty crocker shake and bake brownie mix

Emply two containers in to a one quart canning jar and then threw in a oxygen absorber and then vacuum packed the jar. Should be good for several years.
3 posted on 10/19/2012 6:40:31 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Most antibiotics are the same whether they are labeled for fish, veterinary use or humans. They are made with the same sanitary standards with the same machines and employees as are human antibiotics. Only the label and labeling instructions differ. Sixty years ago, the medical profession would have believed it a miracle to have access to all of the drugs with which we have available today. Choose an antibiotic with the broadest spectrum of activity against those diseases and infections that are most likely to affect the population if the SHTF.
4 posted on 10/19/2012 6:43:47 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The veterinary supply stuff is the exact same antibiotics made by the same companies and meet the same quality standards.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 6:43:53 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Done.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 6:44:35 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Kartographer

I wish the pro legalization of drugs crowd would start yelling about the legalization of useful drugs.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 6:45:15 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Kartographer

Where can you buy antibiotics without prescription?


8 posted on 10/19/2012 6:45:40 PM PDT by parthian shot
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To: Kartographer

“They are readily available online at reasonable prices without a prescription.”

I tried to get prescriptions meds online for my dog and needed a vet’s order for them.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 6:46:14 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Kartographer
Just be aware that antibiotics, like most medications, have an expiration date after which they become unreliable as therapeutic agents.
10 posted on 10/19/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kartographer

Sorry, I see the answer to my question in later posts. Thanks!


11 posted on 10/19/2012 6:47:50 PM PDT by parthian shot
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To: Kartographer

A good friend is a vet. I had a sinus infection, and I bitched that I was gonna have to pay 80 bucks to see my Doc. He gave me a script. Said there was no difference. There was no difference. Same dope! Vets are held to the same strict FDA standards.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 6:48:44 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I once ordered some from a place in Vanuatu which did not require a prescription.

There was a delay tho they did notify me by email that their supply had run out due to demand for that particular antibiotic. I did eventually get it but they also charged a little more than I was originally told. Not a whole lot more but it did make me decide not to deal with them again.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 6:50:40 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: hinckley buzzard

Not So most are potent far beyond their expiration dates:

http://www.terrierman.com/antibiotics-WSJ.htm


14 posted on 10/19/2012 6:51:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thank you. I had no idea that antibiotics were available without prescription for animals. Something to think about.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 6:51:35 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: parthian shot
"Where can you buy antibiotics without prescription?"

I've bought and used antibiotics from here for years without a prescription.

16 posted on 10/19/2012 6:54:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: hinckley buzzard

An important anti biotic Doxycycline is synthetic Tetracycline. Its however becomes quite toxic when it expires or if stored improperly. It is important to rotate your stock and discard the out of date stuff.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 6:56:35 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

That is true, but those are pretty much the only ones with a definite shelf life, most other if properly store are good for many years.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 7:01:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: hinckley buzzard

My doctor gave me scripts for Cipro, said stored in the refrigerator it would keep almost indefinitely. Said it was one of the best broad spectrum to store for this purpose.

He also had me get some prescription antibiotic ointment for use with MRSA infections. That is also now stored in the frig.

And ALWAYS keep a 12 month supply of any essential medicines you have to take. If you have to pay more to get the quantity because insurance will only cover 30 days at a time, tough, spend the money and do it. I have 18 months of my heart meds, and I keep it at that level. Ditto for the wife’s BP meds.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 7:01:58 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Kartographer
Get two 99.999% silver coins, a six volt generator, alligator clips, a glass receptacle, distilled water and make your own silver colloidal. Take a 1/2 cup a couple of times a day. Also, you should have plenty of baking soda on hand, preferably all natural without aluminum. If you are feeling sick take a teaspoon in water twice a day. It will change your body ph and germ won't survive. Take it until you fill much better.

When you get a sore throat the next day it will be because you are detoxifying, not because you are getting sicker.

20 posted on 10/19/2012 7:02:54 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

I never recommend Colloidal Silver as it has the potential of poisoning those who take it improperly. Silver is a heavy metal and the ingestion of any heavy metal is something to avoid.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 7:08:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

All this reminds me of the seinfeld episode where Kramer borrowed smuckers the dog who had a cough and took him to the vet to get a prescription for his own cough.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 7:12:33 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Bellflower
Get two 99.999% silver coins, a six volt generator, alligator clips, a glass receptacle, distilled water and make your own silver colloidal. Take a 1/2 cup a couple of times a day.

My boss makes that. Instead of coins he bought a piece of silver wire from a jeweler. If you start turning blue you're overdoing it.

My wife is on Lipitor or some generic equivalent, and a thyroid medicine. She skips one pill a week to build up a stockpile in case of a SHTF situation.

23 posted on 10/19/2012 7:12:59 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: visualops

bookmark


24 posted on 10/19/2012 7:14:56 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


25 posted on 10/19/2012 7:15:34 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Kartographer

Hi Kart.... how long can these be used after the expiration, and, can they be stored in the refrigerator?


26 posted on 10/19/2012 7:17:00 PM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: Kartographer; All

This is not about medicine but I have a question:

My front door is metal. It was put on this house when it was built in 1983 - that could mean it’s a stronger metal than metal doors made today. I’ve examined the door as well as I can, and it appears to be two metal sheets, each 1/4 inch thick, and I suppose there is blank space between the two sheets.

My question is, what caliber bullet would it take to go through that door? Would a 38 hollow point do it, or would it take a larger caliber to do it? Since I’m on the inside, I’d like to know what someone outside would have to shoot to go through the door where I would be standing.

I’m sure some of you gun guys know the answer to this question.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 7:17:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
I wish the pro legalization of drugs crowd would start yelling about the legalization of useful drugs.

I agree. We should be free to decide what medications we want to take. This is part of being a free people.

28 posted on 10/19/2012 7:18:45 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Kartographer

I have discovered a cure for sore throat or sore gums.

I just put a lot of salt into hot water and gargle then swish it around my teeth. It almost always works. One time it didn’t work and the dr. told me he was surprised that it didn’t.

He then gave me a prescription for a stronger than average anti-biotic.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 7:19:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Bellflower

Hello.

I am a big collidial silver user, however it doesn’t seem to help with allergies. My naturpath told me to only use abuot a teaspoon a couple times day. Are you sure 1/2 cup is a safe amount?


30 posted on 10/19/2012 7:20:20 PM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: diamond6

See article in post #14. Refrigeration will extend the shelf life. Heat, oxygen and Light are your enemies when it comes to shelf life.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 7:21:49 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bellflower

Also, what about Apple Cider Vinegar, I heard that is also very good for colds.


32 posted on 10/19/2012 7:22:18 PM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


33 posted on 10/19/2012 7:26:21 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: parthian shot

If you are suburban or rural, any halfway decent farm supply store should have at least some. (most farm supplies carry powdered tetracycline in bulk, injectible penicillin, and the means to inject it).

Versions of streptomycin, doxycyclin, and some others can often be found at fish stores (aquarium type places).

WARNING!!!!

Unless you are ABSOLUTELY, 100% POSITIVE that you or NO ONE IN YOUR FAMILY have no allergies to the above. Ingesting, dermal contact, or even inhaling micrograms of things like this can be rapidly fatal for some people with allergies.

Another thing you can get at farm stores is tetanus anti-toxin. This is the same stuff the doc would use if you stepped on a nail and went to the doc, he would give you a tetanus shot.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 7:34:27 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf
Another thing you can get at farm stores is tetanus anti-toxin. This is the same stuff the doc would use if you stepped on a nail and went to the doc, he would give you a tetanus shot.

Thanks didn't know that!
35 posted on 10/19/2012 7:38:40 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yep. Ordered a stockpile years ago and kept them in the freezer for ears.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 7:44:17 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: djf

Thanks for the tetanus info!


37 posted on 10/19/2012 7:45:04 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I have “LOST” prescriptions and had to get a duplicate....(thyroid)....so I could get a bit ahead in case of emergency. I don’t know why, when the FEDS tell us to stock up on needed prescriptions that the docs/pharms don’t just allow them.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 7:46:35 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
From the FDA :

FDA adds diabetes, memory loss warnings to statins Tue, Feb 28 2012 By Bill Berkrot and Ransdell Pierson (Reuters) - Health regulators are adding warnings to the labels of widely used cholesterol lowering drugs, such as Lipitor, to say they may raise levels of blood sugar and could cause memory loss.

The Food and Drug Administration announced on Tuesday the changes to the safety information on the labels of statins such as Pfizer Inc's Lipitor, AstraZeneca's Crestor and Merck & Co's Zocor that are taken by tens of millions of people.

I use Niacin and Chinese Red Yeast for Cholesterol

and Hawthorn/Ginko/Garlic for BP

39 posted on 10/19/2012 7:50:53 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: djf

Thanks for the help. I have a good Feed & Seed nearby that sells vet supplies. I appreciate the heads up on allergic reactions.


40 posted on 10/19/2012 7:53:22 PM PDT by parthian shot
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To: spokeshave

Most people don’t know it, but the base for all the statin drugs was actually discovered in red-yeast rice.

In other words, statin drugs are naturally occurring substances.

I think the FDA banned imports of red yeast rice IF the concentration of the substance in question was above a certain limit, so most red yeast rice should be non or only minimally effective compared to a scrip for one of the statins.

I will say once again, BE CAREFUL!!


41 posted on 10/19/2012 7:58:41 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: yarddog

I do the same thing except i gargle and spit


42 posted on 10/19/2012 8:02:03 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Yes, I spit it out too tho I guess salty water is not technically dangerous. I always brush my teeth first then do the gargle after in case I might have scratched a gum just enough to let germs in.

I figure swishing the hot salty water around would stop that at least for a while.


43 posted on 10/19/2012 8:05:44 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: goodnesswins

Maybe it’s the state you live in.

Kentucky now (idiots) limits filling more than 3 months supply at one time unless the doctor writes it that you can fill the full year, or as much as you want up to a year.

However, Walgreens told me I could come back in every week if I wanted to. I just can’t get over 3 months *at one time*.

That said, I have to pay non insurance negotiated prices for the drugs because insurance pricing will not apply to getting more than 30 days. Too bad. I found that Costco has my heart meds priced lower without insurance than anywhere else anyway.

As far as thyroid goes (I use synthroid brand, not generic), I bought the $20 (maybe $25) prescription club card at Walgreens and get the stuff at a very reasonable price without insurance. I bought a year’s supply of it and keep it rotated.

Anyway, you need to carefully question a pharmacist about the law where you live. Usually, it is only a problem getting more if you are buying with insurance. It’s not the law per se.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 8:07:38 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: djf

I got a huge drop in cholesterol using red yeast rice and flax seed oil. But I quit the red yeast rice because I don’t like statins. Same drawbacks apply regardless of using it or prescription statins.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 8:11:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: blam
I've used calvet as well. Vouch for them any day!

Their products saved my bacon already... Good source for anyone interested!

46 posted on 10/19/2012 8:12:12 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Kartographer
had a very bad tooth abscess that had to go untreated for almost a week convinced me that antibiotics for use in a collapse situation were an important part of my preps.

Oil of oregano will kill the pain and works against infections. Works every time.
Just try it... if you can stand the initial burning sensation in your mouth. It stings.
But that is okay as you can just rinse with cold water and swallow it. It has very strong antibacterial properties and is safe to swallow.
47 posted on 10/19/2012 8:12:56 PM PDT by JSteff (((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

my memory problems disappeared when I quit statins....start a new job next week.


48 posted on 10/19/2012 8:13:41 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: parthian shot

I get mine from Countryside Pet Supply. They’re part of the Newegg.com online store. . . .


49 posted on 10/19/2012 8:17:29 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

That depends on the meds. Trust me on this...


50 posted on 10/19/2012 8:18:40 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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