Tell me what I'm missing (Vanity)

11/11/2012 | me

[SaxxonWoods]

“Here’s hoping that after another 4 years of misery there’s no amount of cheating or media interference that can prevent us from a President Rand Paul.”

(An excerpt from Count C’s only comment at FR.)

[count-your-change]

What you're missing (since you asked) is that the election is over and while it may feel good to fantasize about what you would do if you were able to do it, you aren't.

[Mad Dawgg]

"The debt ceiling is the real key. We need to leave it where it is."

Sounds good, until you realize it would cause us to default on our bonds and then the dollar would go down like a 2 dollar hooker. (Fast and sloppy)

[Teacher317]

Sounds good, until you realize it would cause us to default on our bonds and then the dollar would go down like a 2 dollar hooker.

That is, unless the ceiling doesn't need to be raised due to REDUCED SPENDING!!!!!!

That is the solution, and that is what everyone is ignoring, because it involves difficult decisions and actual leadership.

[Doogle]

..... making a deal with a proven pathological liar is akin to a lamb asking a pack of wolves “what’s for dinner”?

[Mad Dawgg]

"The debt ceiling is the real key. We need to leave it where it is."

The problem is that the debt is being monetized. SO that would need to stop immediately. Further you would need to pay off bonds AND cut spending and that spending is mostly in Defense, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid and soon Obamacare.

Now you can cut some personnel in these departments but to stop us going over the debt ceiling your gonna need to cut checks that are issued to people on Social security and to Doctors getting paid by Medicare/Medicaid.

Cutting the amount our military personnel get is a recipe for disaster but there are programs would could cut OR better yet bring them all home.

But I don't know of a single Congress Critter that would go for it except maybe the Rands and then I wonder about them (they talk a good game but I have a suspicion they would cut and run on such an issue.)

[Artie]

“We’ll give you tax increases for $250k and higher”

Someone please tell me how $250 k is taxing the rich? Taxing the rich starts at at least one million.

[21twelve]

Sorry, but your post on setting a limit on what “rich” is always reminds me of this excerpt from an old thread about a booklet from 1939 about FDR and the New Deal. The same tactics are being used today. The last paragraph is the culmination and most important.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts

In his first inaugural address, March 4, 1933, the President [FDR] said: “Values have shrunk to fantastic levels; taxes have risen; our ability to pay. has fallen;... the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side....... Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance....Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind’s goods have failed,... Practices of the unscrupulous money-changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men.... They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers.... Yes, the money-changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of that restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit.” END FDR QUOTE

....It is not unnatural for people to think envious thoughts about large profits, and envious thoughts are very easy to exploit, as every demagogue knows. But no government before the New Deal had ever deliberately done it....Large profit as such becomes therefore a symbol of social injury, merely because it is large; moreover, it is asserted that large profit had long been so regarded by the government and penalized for that reason.

Of all the counter symbols this was the one most damaging to the capitalistic system. Indeed, if it were accepted, it would be fatal, because capitalism is a profit and loss system and if profits, even very large profits, are socially wrong, there is nothing more to be said for it.

[Vigilanteman]

An idea that has real merit. We could even negotiate it as a temporary tax increase in return for a temporary suspension of ObamaCare's implementation.

Think how many more games we could play with this:

1. One green card for every illegal who meets certain conditions indicating they will contribute to the economy in return for every deportation of one who does not.
   
2. Write-off of y% of the student loans in return for privatization of y% of the industry.
   
3. Continued subsidies of PBS on conditions that they meet certain goals for fair and balanced reporting.

[Mister Da]

Here is what you are missing.

Campaign 2014 started last Wednesday. All Reps & 32+ Senators are running for reelection. For most of them, reelection is THE MOST IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE, not the betterment of the country.

As the country descends into financial chaos, virtually all of these Congressmen believe they ALONE have the solutions to our problems. Losing the next election by taking a principled, patriotic position is out of the question. The politician is far more valuable than anything he produces - or so they believe.

This is why we are where we are financially, & where we will continue to go, even as Europe shows us the folly of our direction.

Honor & sacrifice are dead in political America, signaling the beginning of the end of our Republic, now more aptly called a Crony-Republic.

Our founding fathers assumed honorable, patriotic public servants. The Constitution would have been vastly different if it was written for the equivalent of a prison population or organized crime. Freedom, private property, & prosperity cannot survive in this political climate, regardless of what the Constitution says.

[stylin19a]

Lucy always pulls the football away

[Cyber Liberty]

You are missing a *big* thing: No matter whose fault, the Republicans will be blamed. And they’ll accept it too, which is why they’re called “The Stupid Party.”