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Claudius vs Obama
11/24/12 | no source

Posted on 11/24/2012 5:28:20 PM PST by Indy Pendance

How evil are the two.

Comments are expected.


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To: RoosterRedux
Stealth Eagle :)
41 posted on 11/25/2012 3:21:51 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Indy Pendance

Claudius wasn’t evil.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 10:49:37 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: vladimir998
I am not an authority on Roman history or Claudius (though I am familiar with the canals constructed to drain Lago Fucino)...but my comment was based on a memory of Tacitus. He thought Claudius was an idiot.

That said...don't be a smart ass...the world of knowledge and history is rather large.

I asked an honest question...you respond in a way that indicates not an inclination to spread knowledge...but to insult anyone less knowledgeable than yourself on this subject.

I await your response...but I think I have seen your character already. Prove me wrong.

43 posted on 11/25/2012 4:38:41 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux

You wrote:

“I am not an authority on Roman history or Claudius (though I am familiar with the canals constructed to drain Lago Fucino)...but my comment was based on a memory of Tacitus. He thought Claudius was an idiot.”

Irrelevant. I don’t care that you know you’re not an authority. I also don’t care about some vague memory you have from Tacitus. Any authority on Roman history can tell you if you want to know about Tacitus and Claudius you read Miriam Griffan’s “Claudius in Tacitus”, The Classical Quarterly, NS, Vol. 40, No. 2 (1990), pp. 482-501.

“That said...don’t be a smart ass...the world of knowledge and history is rather large.”

First, I wasn’t a smart ass. I asked you some pertinent questions - none of which you answered (which tells me something already). Second, history IS vast. That’s why you have to read. Third, you wrote to me, “Is that your opinion or that of Robert Graves who wrote “I Claudius”?” Now, who was being a smartass again?

“I asked an honest question...you respond in a way that indicates not an inclination to spread knowledge...but to insult anyone less knowledgeable than yourself on this subject.”

No, I don’t think you asked an honest question. The very fact that you couched it as a choice between A - “Is that your opinion” or B - “or that of Robert Graves” shows you’re already discounting the possibility that there are numerous reputable historians who attest to Claudius’ genius when in fact there are. Thus, you can take your sanctimonious whine of “don’t be a smart ass” and shove it up there right next to your sciolism. (Look it up in the dictionary. We both know you don’t know what that word means.)

“I await your response...but I think I have seen your character already. Prove me wrong.”

You have proved yourself to be wrong:

1) I’m right on Claudius and all modern, reputable historians agree.

2) Your hypocrisy (”Is that your opinion or that of Robert Graves who wrote “I Claudius”?” and “don’t be a smart ass”) shows much more about your character than anything I’ve written shows about mine.

3) This exchange will annoy you greatly - because you know I’m right. I, on the other hand, am not bothered by it in the least - because I am right.


44 posted on 11/25/2012 5:53:07 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
This exchange will annoy you greatly

LOL...don't flatter yourself.

45 posted on 11/26/2012 5:05:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux

Oh, I wasn’t. And I was still right.


46 posted on 11/26/2012 5:10:06 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Oh, I wasn’t. And I was still right.

OCPD. Check it out...might do you some good.

47 posted on 11/26/2012 5:41:24 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux

You posted a non-working link. Figures. You’re whole effort in this thread has been a failure so why should you post a link that actually works, right?


48 posted on 11/26/2012 3:18:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Don't worry. Gosh, sorry about that. I was wrong once again.

But thank goodness, you were not wrong. Whew, dodge another bullet, you did.

OCPD

Good luck.

And don't be discouraged...there is hope. But you actually need to study, really study...and this will take courage on your part.

49 posted on 11/26/2012 3:40:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: vladimir998
BTW, sorry about that bad link. Just had to be sure I knew what I was dealing with.

And good luck to you.

50 posted on 11/26/2012 3:42:27 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux

I was right. And I’ll continue to be right. You’ll continue to be wrong. It’s all you know. At least you’re aware of it. The problem is that you don’t have the necessary character to fix it. You know it. I know it. And you still can’t fix it. And, again, this will bother you a lot more than it does me. We both know why too.


51 posted on 11/26/2012 8:49:27 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: RoosterRedux

I would wish you good luck, but there’s no point. It’s just not in you to improve your character.


52 posted on 11/26/2012 8:51:29 PM PST by vladimir998
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