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Cops: Gang member killed, another seriously wounded at funeral
ChiTrib ^ | 11/26/2012 | Tribune reporters

Posted on 11/26/2012 1:21:03 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

Two reputed gang members were shot this afternoon at a funeral for a man who was slain on the South Side last week, with a minister at the services tweeting afterward, "This is Crazy."

The two men were shot outside St. Columbanus Church in the 300 block of East 71st Street shortly before 12:30 p.m., across the street from the A.A. Rayner & Sons Funeral Home, police said.

They were taken in critical condition to Stroger, according to Chicago Fire Department spokesman Will Knight. Both victims are convicted felons and known gang members, police said. Two guns were recovered at the scene.

The shooting occurred after the funeral for James Holman, 32, who was gunned down last week at an apartment building in the Washington Park neighborhood, according to police and the minister who was presiding, the Rev. Corey Brooks.

"I just preached a funeral and gunfire has broke out," Brooks tweeted. "Chaos about 500 people here. This is Crazy!!

"Please pray for Chicago," he added in a later tweet. "This is horrible."

Please pray I believe people have been hit it is Chaos about 500 people here. This is Crazy!!

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: chicago; shooting; urban
If only this city had a certain Community Activist back in town.....
1 posted on 11/26/2012 1:21:10 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
If only this city had a certain Community Activist back in town.....

THAT, sir, I can pray for!

2 posted on 11/26/2012 1:24:27 PM PST by null and void (The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I say TS again. They made their bed, they have to lay in it.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 1:25:15 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Responsibility2nd
...a minister at the services tweeting afterward, "This is Crazy."

You've made your barbaric bed, "revrund," now own it!

4 posted on 11/26/2012 1:25:43 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If only Chicago had a gun-control law, all this bloodshed could be avoided.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 1:25:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wonder if they got to know their lord and savior, Barack Obama, before they died?


6 posted on 11/26/2012 1:27:29 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

Quite a lasting legacy of success for Barry the O’s community organizing efforts, no?

Now he’s doing “for” America what he did “for” Chicago.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 1:28:38 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Chaos about 500 people here.

Why would 500 people go to a POS gangbanger's funeral?

That is what I find to be crazy.

8 posted on 11/26/2012 1:32:34 PM PST by Eaker ( If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Let me be clear. ...Uhh, Uhh, If I had a son...
9 posted on 11/26/2012 1:34:39 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Eaker

Must’ve been a slow day for dope deliveries.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 1:34:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They voted for ‘more of the same’, Pastor Brooks.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 1:35:28 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It reminds me of that lawyer joke’s punchline.

two down? .... its a great start.

Its kinda a slow way to clean up the crime, two at a time, but you have to start somewhere.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 1:36:56 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: himno hero

Actually, we’ve got an exponential progression going here, so it might not be as slow as you think.

One gang-banger killed, then two killed at his funeral.

Later this week two GBs killed at each funeral.

Next week two killed at each of the four funerals.

Rinse and repeat. Won’t take long at all.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 1:40:03 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not surprised, because this has happened before. Heck, it was a scene in the movie Colors, way back in 1988. Still, what a time we live in. Even Capone and the other Mafia types back in the day acted with more restraint at a gangster’s funeral.

Of course, most of them wouldn’t dream of shooting a cop or a newspaperman (except the very dirty Jake Lingle, who got what he deserved), either.


14 posted on 11/26/2012 1:41:02 PM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Sherman Logan

LOL!!

Great observation!


15 posted on 11/26/2012 1:42:16 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Responsibility2nd
>(Pastor says) 'Please pray for Chicago'

Just reaping what Rev Wright sowed.

16 posted on 11/26/2012 1:42:49 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Reverend, your chickens have come home to roost.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 1:47:29 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wondering who’s going to pay for the funerals.

(the non-0bmama voters)


18 posted on 11/26/2012 1:52:30 PM PST by I want the USA back (I love annoying liberals.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Some murderous cretins are earning their prime one way tickets to hell.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 1:54:23 PM PST by tflabo
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To: NonValueAdded

I’m amazed at the cold-hearted and snarky remarks on here. This pastor is asking for prayer and most of you are taking pot shots at him. Shame!


20 posted on 11/26/2012 2:00:14 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Prayer didn’t help Sodom and Gomorrah either.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 2:04:48 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I parts of South America, when crime got too obnoxious, there was something of a tradition of business owners and shopkeepers creating a fund that was used to hire tough guys, off duty police, former military, etc.

Their job was to round up, then dispose of criminals, no questions asked. Typically they would take them out to some rural place, execute them, then bury them.

Importantly, this technique was statistically effective, because such criminals are oriented to their turf, so when some were eliminated from a particular area, it was a long time before they were replaced.

This meant that the exterminators did not make a heavy footprint in a typical neighborhood before moving on, so were usually able to take down large numbers of criminals before their activities were even detected, much less stopping them.

And since some off duty policemen were involved, if there were police suspicions, then they would find out about it, and cool it for a while to let things settle down.

Practically speaking, there is no reason that this couldn’t work in a place like Chicago, where there are so many homicides that nobody would care much about disappearances.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 2:06:27 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Practically speaking, there is no reason that this couldn’t work in a place like Chicago, where there are so many homicides that nobody would care much about disappearances.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Honestly, I don’t like that system. Not at all. Here in America we expect our leaders and our police to be people of integrity. I know this is Chicago we’re talking about, but still....

Here in America we let the different tribes kill each other off. No one thinks twice when one of them kills another one of them.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 2:17:45 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Catsrus

The pastor is mulling a run for Jesse Jackson Jr.’s seat. Prayer is not going to solve this problem. More gun laws are not going to solve this problem. It is highly likely the shooters were friends of the original deceased and the shooting victims associated with his death. It is a cycle of violence that tearing down motels and erecting community centers is not going to solve.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 2:22:34 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Sodom and Gomorrah wasn’t asking for prayer. Lot and his wife were told to leave because God was going to destroy those cities. They didn’t want prayer - they wanted to continue in their perverted sins.

This pastor asking for prayer doesn’t equate Sodom and Gomorrah.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 2:24:04 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus
This pastor is asking for prayer and most of you are taking pot shots at him. Shame!

I agree, lacking any knowledge about this man, it would indeed be prejudicial to demean him. On the other hand, Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago for two years now, has just trumpeted "The Chicago Way" as a model for the rest of America to follow!

On him, much opprobrium would I heap.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 2:28:52 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: I want the USA back

For the taxpayer, funerals are a lot cheaper than prison.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 2:35:07 PM PST by MCF
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To: Responsibility2nd
This raises a question (**querstion) in my mind. Since these two killings happened in a necropolis, do they count as homicides in Chicago?

** Ebonics

28 posted on 11/26/2012 2:36:00 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If Obama had a son, that is what he would be like.
29 posted on 11/26/2012 2:45:14 PM PST by detective
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To: Responsibility2nd
In these depressing, anarchic times, it's nice to hear some good news on occasion .. thanks !


30 posted on 11/26/2012 2:55:47 PM PST by tomkat (a million tiny cuts .. add yours daily .. be creative)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Perhaps what's needed is the "Justice Cooperative ...
31 posted on 11/26/2012 3:03:40 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You can complain all you want but don’t be snitchin’ Rev. You wouldn’t want to risk doing anything about the problem.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 3:10:47 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: I want the USA back
Wondering who’s going to pay for the funerals.

well, let's look at the possibilities. #1 a contribution can at the funeral home was overflowing with contributions

#2 the guys both had large life insurance policies which not only paid their expense, but left their families with future security because their drug income would cease.

#3 you and I will have money taken out our checks to bury this trash.

#4 my proposal would to be to drop these pieces of trash into a neighborhood dumpster (at night of course so as to avoid the illegal dumping of garbage fine) and avoid any further responsibility for this human vermin.

33 posted on 11/26/2012 3:14:56 PM PST by terycarl
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To: SES1066

And I agree with this. I’m sure there are some solid Christians in Chicago, but I’m also sure they are in a minority. The Chicago Way rules!


34 posted on 11/26/2012 3:24:02 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus
This pastor is asking for prayer and most of you are taking pot shots at him.

Actually, it was gang bangers taking pot shots at him.

Most of the posters here are sick and tired of hearing about what a cesspool Shitcago is when these people do nothing but double down on stupid when addressing the problems.

And time after time these "Pastors" and "Reverends" ask fr people to "pray for Chicago." Grabbing there 15 minutes and 100,000 youtube hits.

Well, cafeteria choose your own adventure Christianity isn't going to solve anything. How about rebuking your congregation of gang bangers and pointing out their actions and their criminal behavior is what caused these deaths.

It isn't some imaginary faceless "they" it is the eyes staring back at these supposed men of the cloth. Pray for Chicago? I pray these men of the cloth would grow some testicles and tell these bangers of their eternity in hell waiting. About how Jamal, Gerome, or whatever's body lying in that casket and his evil gang banger's soul is probably burning in hellfire.

Pray for Chicago? Pray for those supposed men of the cloth that provide tacit cover for these criminals. Pray they will one day find the courage to speak the truth.

35 posted on 11/26/2012 3:27:14 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Was there any link on that site in which to post a comment? I couldn’t find any........


36 posted on 11/26/2012 3:36:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Good Idea, sort of a Modern Day Vigilante operation. If the Police cannot or will not control these vermin, then the shop owners and other interrested people come up with a little list and some money. Problem is corrected. As Debby Renolds said about Las Vegas, “ No one got shot that wasn;t supposed to” Sure saves the County and State a lot of money.
37 posted on 11/26/2012 3:46:14 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ( Your life is like a coin, you can spend it on what ever you want, but you can only spend it once.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Two reputed gang members were shot this afternoon at a funeral...”

My Grandfather was a bootlegger and philanderer. His 9 sons and daughters are all Christians. His acquaintances never shot up any funerals. Course he wasn’t Amish...


38 posted on 11/26/2012 3:59:42 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s just a darned shame, and they were such good boys./s


39 posted on 11/26/2012 4:09:09 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Eaker
something to do, gots to have somewheres to wears them zoot suits & feathered hats.
40 posted on 11/26/2012 4:12:42 PM PST by annieokie
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To: APatientMan
My Grandfather was a bootlegger and philanderer. His 9 sons and daughters are all Christians. His acquaintances never shot up any funerals. Course he wasn’t Amish...


Yes, yes. But was he a Democrat?

41 posted on 11/26/2012 4:32:52 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

By today’s standards, I don’t think there were democrats in those days. I think they called them sloooow.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 4:40:23 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Repeat Offender

Unless you are familiar with this particular pastor and his beliefs, then you are judging this man with a broad paint brush. He may be just where God wants him to be. Do you know God’s will for this man? No, and neither do I.

The man is crying out for prayer for his city and people and most of you have the nerve to criticize him.

Have you heard any of his sermons or what he preaches, or if he preaches on the streets? No, and neither do I.


43 posted on 11/26/2012 4:43:42 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

I knew the name rang a bell...roof-top preacher

interesting take\rumor here

http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/07/email-rev-corey-b-brooks-rooftop-pastor.html


44 posted on 11/26/2012 5:01:11 PM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: stylin19a

So, we don’t know for sure if the claims are true or not. I don’t presume to know, but he is asking for prayer - not money - which I wouldn’t give him anyway.


45 posted on 11/26/2012 7:21:58 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’d like to know why the Protestant Corey Brooks is preaching at Catholic St. Colambanus. Is his church too small?


46 posted on 11/26/2012 7:27:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If only this city had a certain Community Activist back in town.....

Yes - it would be entertaining to have him explain that this was just a natural reaction to being dissed - just like rioting and murder is a natural reaction among the Islamist "community".

Unless accomplished by a White Christian Conservative male, all such atrocities are merely "natural reactions", whereas a mere verbal protest by the white Christian Conservative male is a hate crime...

Oh Babylon, oh Babylon, we bid thee farewell...

47 posted on 11/27/2012 4:22:57 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
In parts of South America, when crime got too obnoxious, there was something of a tradition of business owners and shopkeepers

In the dangerous cities of Brazil, shop owners were hiring thugs to eliminate the feral street children that were pickpocketing tourists, stealing and driving away business -- no questions asked.

48 posted on 11/29/2012 5:22:13 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Instant Human....Add Coffee)
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