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'Ender's Game': Harrison Ford stares down Asa Butterfield in first photo
Entertainment Weekly ^ | December 5, 2012 | Grady Smith

Posted on 12/06/2012 12:21:15 PM PST by EveningStar

Anyone who has read Orson Scott Card’s beloved 1985 sci-fi novel, Ender’s Game, can understand why, for the past 20 years, Hollywood has been unable to adapt the book. After all, it’s challenging enough to shoot a movie about pint-sized military recruits fighting each other in a futuristic, space-set Battle School, but it’s an even taller order to capture the novel’s complex themes about war and morality...

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I see that super overrated Harrison Ford is in it. Oh, well. :(
1 posted on 12/06/2012 12:21:22 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg; KevinDavis

ping


2 posted on 12/06/2012 12:22:31 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

One of the best books ever written. The problem is that you won’t be able to find so many young kids who have the talent to accurately portray all the characters.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 12:23:07 PM PST by Flightdeck (My four children have been robbed)
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To: Flightdeck

That’s why they picked older kids for the roles.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 12:25:04 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
But...But...But... Ender’s Game was written by a Mormon, you know, that one religion that kept just enough conservatives home the night of the election... to seal our fate.

Seriously though, I can't wait. I have a signed copy of the book by Mr. Card.

5 posted on 12/06/2012 12:26:11 PM PST by Ripliancum (Mosiah 29:27. Look it up.)
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To: EveningStar

Harrison doesn’t look so good there. Looks bloated.


6 posted on 12/06/2012 12:27:03 PM PST by albie
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To: EveningStar

Looking forward to this one. I just hope it doesn’t bank enough for them to decide to do the other books, they stink. 1 great book with a number of atrocious sequels... hmm actually that’s perfect for Hollywood.


7 posted on 12/06/2012 12:27:12 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: EveningStar
1985 sci-fi novel

I read it as a short story in "Analog" magazine -- back in 1977, if I remember correctly.

8 posted on 12/06/2012 12:27:58 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: EveningStar

The themes aren’t that complex. I liked it because it was such a straightforward pageturner. It’s one of the few novels I’ve read in one sitting. I assume the problem with getting Sneer onscreen is not its complexity but the fact that it’s incredibly violent and about a 5 year old (or so, I don’t recall perfectly). Also a lot of it takes place in zero gravity.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 12:27:58 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: EveningStar

The themes aren’t that complex. I liked it because it was such a straightforward pageturner. It’s one of the few novels I’ve read in one sitting. I assume the problem with getting Ender onscreen is not its complexity but the fact that it’s incredibly violent and about a 5 year old (or so, I don’t recall perfectly). Also a lot of it takes place in zero gravity.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 12:28:26 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: EveningStar

“Traveling through hyperspace ain’t like dusting crops, boy!”


11 posted on 12/06/2012 12:28:34 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Will they go to Ludicrous Speed?


12 posted on 12/06/2012 12:33:37 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Flightdeck
I enjoyed the books. I've listened to the author talk about the main difficulty in bringing the book to the big screen is the producers wanting to have a love interest in the story requiring the characters to be older- which changes the story
13 posted on 12/06/2012 12:36:03 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: albie

He’s getting on up in years; so it’s difficult to look glamourous and twenty-one now. Besides, he doesn’t have to care what he looks like; but I hope he’s ditched the earring anyway.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 12:36:41 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: Tublecane
I assume the problem with getting Ender onscreen is not its complexity but the fact that it’s incredibly violent and about a 5 year old

The book starts with Ender being around 5 and ends with him being 14 or so, so there is some difficulty there, particularly since Ender is a genius and approaches adult-level maturity as a child. It would have been easier as an animated movie.

It is violent in places, with Ender (at around 8) beating to death an older bully. Actually, he does it twice, with the first time being in kindergarten.

15 posted on 12/06/2012 12:37:00 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The short story is better (imho)—more to the point. The book felt like a short-story that was filled out to make a book.

I believe the author has made the short story available for free on his web site.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 12:37:38 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I read it as a short story in "Analog" magazine -- back in 1977, if I remember correctly.

The Wiki page on the book backs you up on this - and if I remember correctly, writing the book form in 1985 allowed Card to add in the whole videogame angle. And then he updated it again in 1991, to reflect political facts (according to the Wiki - I'm willing to guess he wanted to erase references to the Soviet Union).

"Ender's Game" isn't the only Sci-Fi novel that grew out of the magazine space Off the top of my head, "A Canticle for Liebowitz" also did that.

17 posted on 12/06/2012 12:37:49 PM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: albie
Harrison doesn’t look so good there. Looks bloated.

He's playing a stressed-out military commander, who in the book also wasn't in good shape.

18 posted on 12/06/2012 12:38:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: albie

He’s two years older than me and he looks a helluva lot better than I do. :)


19 posted on 12/06/2012 12:39:18 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Harrison Ford was great as Han Solo. Sure, his dialogue was a little corny, but that wasn’t his fault. And he was great as Indiana Jones, at least in the first three movies. It’s been downhill ever since; now his idea of portraying a “tough guy” consists of growling and looking like he’s constipated.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 12:42:25 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: Yossarian

I skipped over the parts about the brother and sister influencing world evvents by blogging, or whatever it was. I can see the earlier version being better.


21 posted on 12/06/2012 12:42:48 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: NativeSon

Love interest?

One of the main themes of the story is Ender’s isolation.


22 posted on 12/06/2012 12:43:07 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: EveningStar

Awesome


23 posted on 12/06/2012 12:43:52 PM PST by mnehring
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To: EveningStar

Has a release date been announced?


24 posted on 12/06/2012 12:44:39 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Brookhaven
Ender's Game By Orson Scott Card [First appeared in the August 1977 issue of Analog.]
25 posted on 12/06/2012 12:45:12 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: Brookhaven

You are right there.
The guts of it are the best. The remainder is, well, pretty lame really.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 12:45:26 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Yossarian

Plenty of classic SF did
The sequels to Dune - Children of Dune was serialized on Analog too IIRC.
Also Haldemans “Forever War” was a long story in Analog.


27 posted on 12/06/2012 12:48:03 PM PST by buwaya
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To: EveningStar

Very excited for the movie.I’ve read the book twice. Then I asked for the audio book a few years ago so I can sit and listen to it. So great.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: EveningStar; albie; PapaBear3625

I just saw “The Fugitive” again this weekend. Good movie. I also liked him in “Air Force One”.

I just wish he was not a stinking damned liberal.


29 posted on 12/06/2012 12:49:02 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Flightdeck

One of the best books ever written.


Agreed. It’s also on the Marine Corps Commandant’s reading list.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 12:49:02 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: EveningStar

Great book.
The sequels and spinoffs, not so much.


31 posted on 12/06/2012 12:50:38 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: EveningStar
Loved the book. Can't say the same for the sequels.

Can't wait for the movie.

32 posted on 12/06/2012 12:52:21 PM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: Brookhaven
I know, another way it changes the story. Orson Card has commentaries at the end of the audio books. He talked about how he created the stories and other things going on in his life.

He spoke of more than a few opportunities to take Ender's Game to the movies but he would not compromise the story; hopefully the movie follows the story.

33 posted on 12/06/2012 12:54:50 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Flightdeck

This would have been a perfect vehicle for an anime series.

Ender’s killing of the bully is horrifying, because it’s so cold blooded. Merely a weighing of options, benefits, and outcomes. No thought about the moral implications.

A theme, btw, that runs throughout the entire book.


34 posted on 12/06/2012 12:56:19 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Daveinyork

November 1, 2013, originally March 2013

http://collider.com/enders-game-release-date/158052/


35 posted on 12/06/2012 12:59:11 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Tublecane

But it’s pretty amazing he came up with idea of blogging when he did.


36 posted on 12/06/2012 1:00:41 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: rlmorel
I just wish he was not a stinking damned liberal.

He is, but he's not in-your-face about it. He keeps his politics to himself and that's fine by me.

What I know of HF, I like.

Two anecdotes:

Like many other Hollywood types, HF owns a nice place near Jackson Hole WY. He found out that a developer wanted to put up condos down the hill from his place, which would have ruined the gorgeous view. So, instead of being a "don't-you-know-who-I-am!?" type, he simply bought the land himself so he could keep it beautiful. An excellent, and I believe conservative, solution.

Second, a friend who has two daughters once took them to the Jackson Hole airport for an annual Free Airplane Ride for Kids sort of event. Private pilots stood by their planes and the organizers assigned kids to particular planes and pilots. My friend's kids walked to their assigned plane, and the pilot smiled and shook their hands, saying, "Hi! My name is Harrison Ford. I'll be your pilot today."

Democrat or not, he strikes me as a really decent and humble person.

37 posted on 12/06/2012 1:01:42 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Brookhaven
Ender’s killing of the bully is horrifying, because it’s so cold blooded. Merely a weighing of options, benefits, and outcomes. No thought about the moral implications.

He didn't intend to kill the kid. He wanted to send a message that he wasn't to be messed with by bullies. I actually was pretty impressed by that scene.

38 posted on 12/06/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: gura

Not so much when it’s wildly off base. The Internet turned out yo be pretty much exactly the opposite. Plus, by 85 I should think people were already talking to eachother on the earlier versions of the web. Now that I think about it maybe it was more like a chatroom than a blog.

I’m more impressed with the kaptops as learning tools and kids’ continuing obsession with video games.


39 posted on 12/06/2012 1:08:51 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: gura

Not so much when it’s wildly off base. The Internet turned out to be pretty much exactly the opposite. Plus, by 85 I should think people were already talking to eachother on the earlier versions of the web. Now that I think about it maybe it was more like a chatroom than a blog.

I’m more impressed with the laptops as learning tools and kids’ continuing obsession with video games.


40 posted on 12/06/2012 1:09:20 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: albie

Well he is 70.


41 posted on 12/06/2012 1:10:35 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: rottndog

Wow! I remember reading that story when it first came out! I hadn’t remembered the name of it, but I certainly remembered the story!

Thanks for the link, it brought back memories of sitting in the school library for hours on end reading Analog, Astounding, and Galaxy!

Cheers!


42 posted on 12/06/2012 1:12:06 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: massgopguy

Terminate the colonel’s command.


43 posted on 12/06/2012 1:24:44 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Future Snake Eater; Brookhaven

He also didn’t even know he’d killed the kid. He only found that out much later. I’m going to have to go back and re-read it now. It’s right up there with Dune for me, I’ve read both numerous times.


44 posted on 12/06/2012 1:25:20 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: Brookhaven; KevinDavis

Why destroy the story with a “love interest”?

I see they are in PJ’s instead of sleeping nude?

I also notice 2 or 3 girls in that pic... I think there might have been 2 in the whole school in the book

please tell me the little black kid isn’t Bean?


45 posted on 12/06/2012 1:26:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TChris
he strikes me as a really decent and humble person.

My cousin (lives in Jackson Hole) knows him a little. He used to come into the restaurant where she worked, quite often. Said that you'd never know he was there, unless you waited on him.

She also said that he does a lot of volunteer flying - fire patrols, searching for lost hunters / hikers, and so on. Stuff that you never read about in Entertainment Weekly.

As far as politics is concerned, my opinion is that reasonable men can...and should....disagree. Just because I don't like the way a man votes, doesn't make him a S.O.B.

46 posted on 12/06/2012 1:32:38 PM PST by wbill
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

He always looked constipated and stoned,mumbling and sneering. Looking like that at 72 isn`t intimidating it`s crotchety and sad. There are no action hero grandpas...time for geezer roles.


47 posted on 12/06/2012 1:34:00 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: GeronL

I can’t remember if it is in the short-story or the book, but there is a scene where Ender has to talk to another cadet—a female—and she is naked. His response is sort of a numb, so-what? The idea that they might have some type of relationship doesn’t seem to be a possibility in his mind.


48 posted on 12/06/2012 1:39:08 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Brookhaven

He was like 8, she wasn’t much older. Not exactly a lot of hormones or development there.


49 posted on 12/06/2012 1:42:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

One movie very underrated is Extraordinary Measures. It is a 2010 medical drama film starring Brendan Fraser, Harrison Ford, and Keri Russell. It is distributed by CBS Films and was released on January 22, 2010. It is about parents who form a biotechnology company to develop a drug to save the lives of their children, who have a life-threatening disease. The film is based on the true story of John and Aileen Crowley, whose children have Pompe’s disease. The film was shot in St. Paul, Oregon, Portland.

Worth RENTING as a family movie!


50 posted on 12/06/2012 2:15:53 PM PST by princess leah
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