How to Train Your Horse to Lunge on a Line : How to Hold a Whip ... Youtube video
Posted on 12/06/2012 5:50:33 PM PST by reaganaut
My mother's neighbors who are illegal aliens and La Raza, own a couple of horses, they aren't fed well and today they were out 'training' them making them run around a small corral and hitting them with a bull whip.
My mother and I don't think this is normal or right, so we decided to ask here on FR. Any suggestions? Should we report them?
How to Train Your Horse to Lunge on a Line : How to Hold a Whip ... Youtube video
Get it on video from an angle which does not reveal that it was taken from your mother’s house but clearly shows the neighbor’s address. Be sure to make copies of the video, and keep the original. Send copies with no return address to every law enforcement agency with possible jurisdiction. Using a proxy server to hide your IP address, and under a false identity to protect yourself from retribution, obtain a GMAIL/YouTube account, a Facebook account, and accounts on various forums such as this one. Upload the video and post it all around the Internet under the heading: OMG! Look what I ran across on the Internet. Use your new GMail account to email the video to every journalist you can. Using a payphone, call immigration. Open a cold beer and watch the fun.
The lunge whip is used properly by snapping it well behind the horse to motivate him.
If you can’t get them moving properly that way, walking out and behind them is next. If you have to strike the horse with the whip, you are doing something wrong.
A crack well behind them is all it sound take for them to advance gates. If they are just learning, perhaps a snap on the rear.
If you were to watch it done properly, you probably wouldn’t know the horse has hit. (and no way would it have any chance of hurting the horse.)
The lunge whip is used properly by snapping it well behind the horse to motivate him.
If you can’t get them moving properly that way, walking out and behind them is next. If you have to strike the horse with the whip, you are doing something wrong.
A crack well behind them is all it should take for them to advance gates. If they are just learning, perhaps a snap on the rear.
If you were to watch it done properly, you probably wouldn’t know the horse has hit. (and no way would it have any chance of hurting the horse.)
We used buggy whips with all of our’s (eight) to train them for all kinds of things.
I’d doubt that they were hitting it directly because that would only cause resistance and might damage the horse.
Normally when you train with a whip you snap it behind or near the horse to get his attention, and only flick him with it to direct him occasionally.
Trainers usually use a light lunge whip, but in some places, such as Florida, experienced trainers may use a leather cattle whip and crack it (hence the Florida cowboy name, Crackers).
I think they use a long leather lash in Mexico, too, but they don’t beat the horse with it. El Jefe would have their hide if they did...
Report them to the INS and when they don't do anything shoot the illegals.
What it takes to train a horse depends on the horse. Without knowing what the horse the OP posted was doing, and without seeing what happened, I don’t know if there was abuse or not. But if you have a dominant horse, then the training might not be very pretty at times.
In turn, the laws are usually written in a way that allows ranchers and those training large animals considerable freedom. As I said, in most cases, no blood, no foul in the eyes of the law.
Branding cattle (or horses) isn’t pretty, but neither is it illegal.
I question your report.
If you’re ever in Massachusetts, you can visit the MSPCA’s Nevins Farm in Methuen (near Boston), in order to see a horse shelter in action. I’ve been there-they are open to the public. The barn is old but well-maintained and the staff is rock-solid. They have a nice educational program for kids and adults, too.
Call PETA. I know we don’t generally like them, but if we can get the little terrorists working for something decent, why not give it a try? Also see if the local news is interested in a “human interest” story. Ask around the nearest college. There’s usually at least one extremist professor who could have a bunch of vegans in black-rimmed glasses bringing publicity down upon them.
I meant to say “lunge whip”, not “dressage whip”.
It’s been a long day!!!
There really is no reason to whip the horse for training purposes. What you thought you witnessed may not have been what was actually occurring; but if you weren’t close enough, it may have been hard to tell. Are these horses out when they are not being trained so that you can get close to the animal(s) when they are outside alone to take photos of them?
Any fresh whip marks would be visible and photographable; and you would have visual evidence when you make your complaint; whomever you choose to make it to. Your complaint backed up with photographs would force a response / investigation from law enforcement.
There really is no reason to whip the horse for training purposes. What you thought you witnessed may not have been what was actually occurring; but if you weren’t close enough, it may have been hard to tell. Are these horses out when they are not being trained so that you can get close to the animal(s) when they are outside alone to take photos of them?
Any fresh whip marks would be visible and photographable; and you would have visual evidence when you make your complaint; whomever you choose to make it to. Your complaint backed up with photographs would force a response / investigation from law enforcement.
I have never seen so much bad advice.
The first thing to do is get a reputable horseman who understands how and why horses are worked in a round pen and have him make the judgment as to whether the horses are being mistreated.
You don’t seem to know enough to make that determination.
Then make the decision as to whether to take it any farther.
It is very poor judgment to get some busy body or cop who may know nothing about proper training involved if the training is not abusive.
OMG, just look at all the knee jerking busybodies, people totally ignorant of horse training automatically ASS-U-ME that the person was abusing the horse. He may very well have been abusive, but just the act of making the horse run in a circle does not automatically equate to abuse.
You can’t use a whip in a championship FEI class.
Nothing will be done. They are illegal thus no laws or order apply to them at all.
They are perfect noble savages, duh!
All true.
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