Ahhhh....Do you think?
Posted on 01/12/2013 5:04:17 PM PST by Kartographer
It goes without saying that food is a top priority for survival from any perspective. No matter what happens, food will be needed. If you get hit by a tsunami, you’ll need food (and potable water!!!) and it may be ruined and scattered all over the area with the rest of your belongings except for what you managed to keep in a Bug out Bag or other Survival/Emergency Kit. If you’re snowed in during a storm, you better have supplies. If inflation sends food prices up 25% each passing year (or each passing WEEK! yes, can happen) trust me on this one, you will wish you had put aside that food stash you never got around to prepare. And if nothing ever happens… yes, you still need to eat, don’t you?
The bad part, the NYC health department came in and closed them down for not having the proper permits and licenses
Kind of reminds me of the New Testament descriptions of Jesus dealing with the pharisees. Always nitpicking with their stupid laws in spite of all common sense. When I learned about these simple stories as a child, it seemed so very clear. Now look at us today.
Some people will never be convinced.
A two foot snowfall would probably make escape on a snowmobile easier — little competing traffic, and lots of alternatives to the streets.
Possibly an extremely large storm that hit a poorly prepared and vulnerable area of barrier islands and sea coast areas, but not super at all. No 200 mph winds for 2 -3 days, no 30 - 40 foot storm surges, just a big storm, not frequent, but inevitable. In many aspects, just like Galveston, TX where it gets completely washed away every 100 years or so .... completely washed away .... everything, but they rebuild it each time at great expense ignoring the obvious stupidity of it each time. When you live on the ocean, below (New Orleans, subways, etc.) or at sea level, you are going to periodically going to be destroyed....not maybe, you will at some point.
People have no manners in public. They will cough and sneeze on any one close to them.
I keep 1 week food supply. Good when power goes out.
Had many 5ft snow storms in 70’s and food stores open 2 days later.
Possible on a snowmobile, but not a motorcycle. But, better have the snowmobile well muffled .... someone desiring a snowmobile would try to pick you off.
That's not really prepping. That's just living life as it was lived for thousands of years before it changed after WWII.
/johnny
I agree with you. I live in a townhome without garden.
Grandmother grew up on farm.
/johnny
Some...but not enough in a purely defensive mode. I have backup to get my food in an offensive mode. (both ways combined without outside interference, I could exist for quite some time.) Thanks for posting, Kartographer. Thanks for your work. BTTT!
Prepare. Persevere.
Someone desiring a snowmobile is a pervert. ;)
/johnny
So lets say you wanted to invest a little in some bulk food that would be easy to store. Something that would keep you alive and not kill the bank, say a starter kit.
I would suggest the following, A large 20 pound bag of rice, a ten pound bag of pinto beans, a five pound bag of red beans and a five pound bag of navy beans. Toss in if you can a 20 pound bag of whole oat groats and a 20 pound bag of red bakers wheat.
Add a five pound bag of salt, an two five pound bags of sugar.
You are talking months of food, for a very little investment. White rice contains lysine which is missing from the beans. Rice and beans together, and you have a complete meal.
The wheat and oats can be chopped up easily with a knife, the wheat soaked over night, the oats are ready instantly, Boil in hot water for 20 minutes and you have a great breakfast meal.
All of these items are whole seed and keep indefinatly except the beans, beans are oxygen sensitive and after a year or two exposed to air will not soften properly when you cook them. However the nutrition is there. If you wanted the beans to be stored for emergencys only, and last for years, put the beans in gallon zip lock baggies with an oxygen adsorber and stack the gallon bags in a five gallon bucket with lid. The beans will last for decades if dry and no oxygen.
Oxygen adsorbers can be purchased on the internet (ebay) or if you are in a pinch hand warmers work just as good. The basicly are the same thing.
what is in oxygen adsorbers by the way is iron powder and salt. The salt causes the iron to rust by stealing oxygen from the air.
K, guys, there you are, the poor mans Food storage. It may be boring food, but it will keep you alive and is easy to store.
A couple of hundred bucks spent this way will go miles farther than any other type of SHTF food and is super easy to preserve and store.
My kit is all in mylar bags with oxygen adsorbers, inside 5 gallon buckets with lids. Done deal for the next few decades.
You never heard of menu fatigue, have you?
Those things are good to have, but you can't live a normal life on them. Those are refugee foods by themselves.
And you left out oil or fat of some kind.
Me? I'm not going to live like a refugee, ever. Not after the market crash in 2008, when I had to rely on stored and foraged provisions, not next month, not next year, not ever.
/johnny
Does anyone know where I can order online a case or two of Avocet?
Avocet is a dairy cream product found outside the U.S. I used to buy it at a PX while living in Europe, but cannot find it here.
For those of you who prefer butter on your toast (the poster did say they had a year’s supply of PB, Johnny) you can buy Red Feather canned butter online.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190715247773?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Ebay also lists canned cheese by Bega.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190620543161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I would like to add that Costco sells canned beef, chicken, and salmon, which when used in conjunction with veggies and rice or noodles form the basis of various, healthful meals.
Walmart sells canned hams from Denmark.
I live in Washington State, and for anyone living there, a hunting and fishing license plus garden can provide a full larder and freezer year round.
I perfer lard, or drippings, or even veg. oil.
The canned butter is very expensive. But it is very, very good, too. Better than American butter. I bought a sample, and used it.
The cheese is also good, but I like mine better.
If push comes to shove that butter and cheese aren't available. I'll make my own. I have those skillsets and the skillsets to build the equipment, if mine is gone.
The critters required are nearby.
/johnny
NOBODY has that kind of winds speeds for that kind of time frame.
If that's your criteria for making it a super storm, you;'re way out of step with reality.
Those who didn't live through it can poo-poo it all they want but all they end up doing is demonstrating how out of touch with reality they are.
That storm and the situation that spawned it was so unprecedented that it well deserved being categorized as a superstorm.
If I had a husband and children, I would freak out making sure there was plenty for the different appetites.
Take a deep breath...
1934. 1938. 1944. 1960.
Those smacked NY pretty hard, too.
What was different this time is that people were unprepared, and there were a hell of a lot more of them.
I don't think anyone here wants to discount the damage done or the pain endured. But there is plenty of precendent for large storms hitting New York. There are web pages listing major storms going back to the 1800s.
Stay prepared yourself, I'm glad you made it through it, and encourage others to be prepared, because it DOES happen to NY. A lot, actually, if you take a close look.
/johnny
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