Posted on 02/11/2013 11:29:28 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Yep, Sen. Rand Paul - some Libertarian leanings and all - (and not all bad, either, especially with his middle of the road approach on foreign policy, him being neither interventionist nor isolationist) is certainly not a shill for the GOP-e... and we have had enough of that.
Rand Paul will deliver the Tea Party, while Rubio gives us Dem lite.
Rubio will also be addressing la raza - in their native tongue.
What say you?
BTW, meant to add in there the word “message” after Tea Party.
Are you for Rand Paul or Rubio?
Take your pick.
I wonder which one Rove, Krauthammer, O’Reilly, Vannity, Coulter and others support - of these two that is.
The role of Republicans over the last 70-80 years has been being the bean-counters and accountants for Progressives’ big Gov’t plans.
You want Medicaid? You want a war on poverty? You want Obamacare? Well, OK - we don’t like it, but we’ll get used to it, and let’s take it slow and figure out how to help you pay for it all!!
Many Republicans, like Bush, even want in on the act - Medicare drug benefits, TSA, TARP - how much will those little bits of RINO Progressivism contribute to the country’s future bankruptcy?
Personally, I am tired of it all. I am ALL FOR someone who wants to truly start to tear it down.
Listen to me.
In order to stay alive as a party, we need to become the Latino Party. Not the party of amnesty, but the party of LEGAL Latinos. The ones who are here LEGALLY.
If we can do that, we can stay strong on every issue that is important to us. We just need to be more sensitive toward the LEGAL Latino population.
Rubio is the man for the job.
We shall see. I expect Rand and Rubio to both vote for amnesty.
I don’t consider Rand Paul as representing the TP. His libertarian leanings not withstanding, he also has too many leanings toward “mushy conmpassionism” to represent the TP.
Methinks he fashions himself a modern-day “Hawkeye Pierce” given his medical service in the military; and we all know what category Pierce / Alan Alda fits into.
Rubio is not the man for the job.
Rand hasn’t served in the military to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps your confusing parts of his past with his father.
I like both. People here now want to tear Rubio down when he was the biggest Tea Party win in the nation just two years ago. His candidacy was DeMint and the conservatives vs the Senate ‘doing business as usual crowd’ who funded Charlie Crist in the primary.
Now, he’s suddenly terrible even though he’s been a good vote for us on nearly every issue the past two years. I have first hand knowledge of his staff in DC standing up for the right things during lobbying meetings. He’s the real deal, and he’s a tremendous voice for conservatism.
Rand Paul may be the closest person to me ideologically that I have ever seen in the Senate. He is courageous and standing for the right things most of the time.
I like both, and look forward to hearing both. If Rubio morphs into a DC politician, he will not be the nominee. There will be good conservative governors running in 2016 that will easily beat a first term Senator if he does not keep his independence from the Boehner-McConnell crowd. His position on immigration is not unreasonable if he does not cowtow to the leftist agenda and give in to a bad deal for the sake of ‘getting things done.’ I’ve said before, that issue will make or break him in presidential politics.
It is time for a second choice, for Republicans. The Libertarians have emerged as a far more aggressive version of resistance, and do have the ability to kick in doors, fight the party apparatus and the Establishment suits making the Rules. They helped bring 2010.
It seems conceivable that together, the Tea Party and the Rand Paul wing of Libertarians could be a force, for taking back the Republican Party, from the brink of democrat lite.
To speak to Latinos, and convince them to vote for Republicans? To transform the Latino vote into part of the Republican Party? That’s the job I’m talking about.
Who do you suggest? Ted Cruz? I’m really impressed with him but he’s only been a senator for about five minutes.
Rand has been good so far, but I am still suspicious that he is a lot more like his father than he lets on (and I consider his father to be a wackadoodle). I am certain willing to give Rand the benefit of the doubt because of how good he is on domestic policy.
One thing though, if Rand Paul wants to run for President he seriously needs to do something about that mop on his head. Every time I see him on TV his hairpiece looks different. Sometimes it looks like a squirrel crawled up there and died.
He is wrong on immigration. His plan will be amnesty even if they don’t call it that.
Excellent post. There are way too many people here who want to tear down Rubio when he was the Tea Party candidate against the RINO Establishment’s Charlie Crist just two years ago. How quickly they forget.
I think the problem is that that RINO Establishment finally wised up and endorsed Rubio. To a certain strain of Freeper, that’s the kiss of political death.
I suppose if the RINO Establishment endorsed motherhood, apple pie and baseball, certain Freepers would start hating those things too.
The two politicians mentioned in the title are both excellent men, IMHO.
It does our cause harm to attach an insulting title to any good GOP leader. It is a divisive tactic, and mirrors the behavior of Liberals and what they do to Republicans everyday. This is the stuff that leads to defeat of GOP candidates.
GOP - Grow up! I am sick of seeing people on this forum being petty and divisive. If you do not like what Rubio or Paul say at any given time, then argue your point with reason. Please DO NOT continue to put phony names which are only meant to demoralize our leaders.
Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks for allowing me to rant.
That said, I certainly deplore Senator Rubio's stand on amnesty--his letting his family ethnic identification interfere with his support for traditional American culture & heritage; his support for the America that allowed his family to come here and thrive. In this attitude, I have suggested how to handle Rubio's apparent defection on this issue: See Whither American Conservatism?
We should not run off those who are with us on most issues; yet neither should we cave on the basic need to preserve American culture & heritage.
William Flax
Only if they endorsed the "designated hitter" rule.
I respectfully disagree. Rubio is a conservative, and I'd suggest that you come up with some reliable sources that will support your claim.
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