Look about like any other freighter to me.
The USS Liberty was in fact on old WWII era freighter converted to a spy ship in the 60s.
Posted on 02/25/2013 4:05:47 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
Last June, I had written a post here commemorating the 45th anniversary of the attack on the USS Liberty. The post, in which I argued (in defiance of every conspiracy theory), that the Israeli attack on the American ship was a mistake, has been giving me considerable heartburn as of late. In the last several days, my e-mail and facebook page have been flooded with the harshest condemnations concerning the article, tarring me as being a “hack,” a “traitor,” and nothing less than a running dog for the “Jewish/Zionist/apartheid” lobby. My article, which scored a modest few dozen Facebook recommendations at the time, has now swelled to over 350 in just the last two days. I wish I could say I was pleased.
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Was never a draft dodger, was a principled anti-draft conservative, and enlisted in the army during the Vietnam war when I had a permanent deferment, have always been combat arms, went Airborne, offered bribes to get sent to Vietnam, it all sounds pretty terrible.
Why you are raging and attacking in such a personal manner is baffling.
There is clearly something wrong with you, and you clearly are on some mind trip a long distance from this thread.
Since I haven’t so much as offered an opinion on the thread topic, and you haven’t disagreed with my simple posts about Americans having the right to speak on their heroic combat losses, your wide eyed ramblings and trollish lashing out are a total mystery.
You are clearly not totally intact mentally.
How can it be friendly fire when Israeli pilots buzzed the ship at least 8 times prior to the attack, low enough that the pilots and crew waved at each other?
They knew who they were shooting at when the started shooting.
You are now swapping unsubstantiated stories for established facts.
Oh, okay...so eyewitness accounts and testimony from US Navy sailors on the Liberty are all unsubstantiated stories...they are all LIARS....yep.
>> “Like most conspiracy theories, you simply need to apply the test of logic: what possible benefit was there to Israel in attacking an ally’s vessel intentionally?” <<
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The problem was that the Liberty didn’t belong there, and were we really an ally, it would not have been there.
The Johnson admin was much like the Carter and Clinton admins to come. They would have done anything they could to assist the arab assault, and the potential to do that was the reason that the Liberty was sent there.
Democrats cannot be for freedom; they detest it. They cannot be for Yeshua; they detest him.
>> “It was another of LBJ’s megalomaniac, thread-the-needle political scams.” <<
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LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama...
There must be some kind of connection there, but I can’t put my finger on it.
There is no consipracy about it. The USS Liberty was delibrately attacked. You don't attack a ship flying a US flag for an hour by mistake. That's why the dwindling people supporting Israel's story over the US sailors are using a new spin "Hey They were SPYING" (which probably is not a road they want to go down).
>> “Israel did not want the U.S. to know that Israel initiated the conflict with Egypt” <<
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Bullcrap!
>> “Actually, it was a lone gunman named Lee Harvey Oswald.” <<
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Oswald, Sirhan, Hinckley, McVey...
Funny how these convenient fallguys appear, isn’t it!
>> “Very interesting. I’d never heard about a sub being in the area” <<
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FWIW, you’ll never hear of a sub being anywhere; that’s the value of a sub.
ansel, who issued those medals and commendations?
Yes, the same admin that sent that ship where it didn’t belong.
They didn’t do it for the men; they did it to provide cover for their own evil actions. LBJ was different than Obama only in that he was more intelligent.
Mocking our (or America’s, “our” doesn’t seem to apply) war dead and heroes, way to go there buddy.
I’m not mocking anybody. I was simply putting the importance of those commendations into the perspective of the political arena of the event.
The issues are not malfeasance of the troops, but of the admin.
That was a very bloody battle, which American GIs were fake heroes, who’s medals should we take back, the more than 200 purple hearts? the Medal of honor, the Presidential Unit Citation? Why would we go after our war dead, to appease who? I won’t do it.
I learn some things that just make me sick, I see some of that on this thread.
“Our Commanding Officer, Captain William Loren McGonagle, received the Congressional Medal of Honor
Our Executive Officer, Lieutenant Commander Philip McCutcheon Armstrong, received the Navy Cross posthumously
Several men received the Silver Star Medal, some posthumously
Several men received the Bronze Star Medal, some posthumously
205 men received the Purple Heart Medal, 34 posthumously
All crewmen received the Combat Action Ribbon
All crewmen share the Presidential Unit Citation”
Why are you deliberately twisting what I said?
Our troops have often been used as political pawns, and the Liberty was one of the worst examples ever.
Nobody is going after our war dead on this thread. Are you “on” something today?
Our warriors earned their honor that day in battle.
I mourn our war dead and fellow warriors, their honors are earned and well paid for, I honor their sacrifice in service to my nation.
I didn’t say that they didn’t earn recognition.
I’m saying that that simply is not an issue relevent to the question at hand. there was never any doubt that the crew was acting valiantly under orders, but those orders should have resulted in impeachment.
Look about like any other freighter to me.
The USS Liberty was in fact on old WWII era freighter converted to a spy ship in the 60s.
Look about like any other freighter to me.
The USS Liberty was in fact on old WWII era freighter converted to a spy ship in the 60s.
One of those Egyptian horse freighters with US Navy id numbers painted on the hull; a massive radio mast in the middle of the ship; no cargo hatches, no derricks, communications masts, and a large dish on the aft deck? Got a picture of one of those?
The US should have bombed the Israeli Navy base as a lesson. But LBJ wasn’t on the American side.
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