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Has the world started cooling? Hints from 4 of 5 global temperature sets…
JoNova ^ | March 13th, 2013 | joanne

Posted on 03/13/2013 10:26:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m not keen on short term trends at all, they have a habit of flicking in and out of statistical significance with each month’s new data, or even switching from cooling to warming. But for what it’s worth, and only time will tell, perhaps the world entered the downswing of the PDO cycle in temperatures circa 2005.

If the world was entering a gently cooling phase, this is what it would look like

Syun Akasofu pointed out that there was a simple 60 year oscillation of global temperatures (about 30 years of warming, about 30 years of mild cooling) on top of a long slow rise that started more than 200 years ago. He predicted that we were at the top of one of the cycles, and were about to see the beginning of a cooler cycle. This early data suggests he may be right.

See the little red dot with the green arrow at about the 2010 mark. Dr Syun Akasofu

The cooling for the last eight years is statistically significant in 4 of the 5 major air temperature datasets. One, UAH, shows a small (statistically insignificant) rise since 2005.

And here’s the political point: how many of the policy makers, the media, or the public are even aware of the current trend? Approximately no one. I’ll bet even most skeptics didn’t know it.

 

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Cue critics who’ll tell me I’m cherry-picking data…

Note I’m not suggesting that this shows CO2 doesn’t cause warming, I’m not suggesting this is evidence (yet) that the models are wrong (they’re wrong, but for other reasons), I’m not even saying that the world is definitely cooling. I’m pointing out that if we were entering a cooler phase, this is what it would look like.

Perhaps the most important thing about these graphs is to juxtapose that claim the world is “still warming” in recent years. If statistical significance is where you hang your hat, the warming trend is not statistically significant, and yet (at the moment anyway) it is statistically significant to say the opposite about the last 8 years in 4 out of 5 datasets.

Btw, all five of the datasets have uncertainties of about 0.05 degrees C, so any change less than that is statistically insignificant.

 

UPDATE: Graph title corrected in the RSS graph.

The short killer summary: The Skeptics Handbook. The most deadly point: The Missing Hot Spot.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 03/13/2013 10:26:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; Carry_Okie; blam; Lorianne; Twotone; bigbob; NormsRevenge; ...

fyi


2 posted on 03/13/2013 10:28:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's true.

Our fine planet is most definitely beginning to cool.

And, it's all my fault.

I replaced too many incandescent bulbs with CFLs before waiting to see if there was a cooling effect.

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3 posted on 03/13/2013 10:40:45 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

See my profile page for some climate graphs that give a better perspective on the whole thing.


4 posted on 03/13/2013 10:50:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If I could offer a thought here...

5 posted on 03/13/2013 10:51:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
LOL...sure go ahead.

But I'll read it tomorrow...cause I am closing shop up here.

well past an oldster's bedtime.

6 posted on 03/13/2013 10:59:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It don’t matter...warming...cooling...it is climate change...must be man made...more taxes needed to stop man made climate change! /S


7 posted on 03/13/2013 11:00:10 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Seaplaner

I’m trying hard to reverse the cooling trend. Own 2 SUV’s now.


8 posted on 03/13/2013 11:00:11 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There are plenty of cycles on top of not only the multi-decadal oscillation, and the rise out of the Little Ice age. The biggest, of course, is the temperature rise out of the last real Ice Age some 12000 years ago. There’s nothing to say we aren’t nearing or at the peak of that warming trend too, and on our way back down into the freezer again.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 11:03:22 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That was it. Just wanted to throw the ole sun ball into the mix.

Sleep well! :-)

10 posted on 03/13/2013 11:04:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great, so we are riding a Cold PDO wave right into the next solar cycle which is predicted to be one of the weakest in modern times. And the current cycle is one of the weaker ones.

Who in their right mind would be worrying about warming at a time like this ?

11 posted on 03/13/2013 11:14:42 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the ping Ernest. I'm getting weary of even wading into
this stuff at this point. But that's ok. I'm human. Do keep up your efforts
in informing folks of what is happening in this terrible scenario.
I may not be so quick in the future to respond to pings on this
subject. But that does not mean I am not interesting in following how things
are going to play out in the mid term and long term.
The evil plot by the one world control freaks must be held to
the iron of truth.
12 posted on 03/13/2013 11:17:52 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I should have made the comment as follows:
All the good reporting on the erroneous so called scientific sanctioned
science on what we call AGW in general, with such articles as this
miss the point that the over all raw data that enters into various models used
by various sources is BAD, MODIFIED to meet an agenda.
In short. Garbage in. Garbage out.
Hansen along with his clown buddies in Europe simply modify
so called ground station data, other, and feed SHIT into their models.
SHIT IN. SHIT OUT. It's all just a sick game. Around and around in circles.
But I do fully appreciate to a high degree, the many sources,
that do their homework and bring out with more stable if I can use
that word, in effect, honest statistics, as well as growing
data feed by sat systems etc..
A more solid view as to how one can even attempt to classify a phenomena such as "global warming" or for that matter
"global cooling", as some intrinsic ate value one can use to somehow
measure what is really happening world wide. I'll leave it go at that.
13 posted on 03/13/2013 11:31:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You guys got it all wrong!!! It be dem Chemtrails, dontcha know?
I be lisnin to dis climate EXPERT on Kook to Kook AM as I type.
He be tellin me all about dem thousands of airplanes dumping all kinds of chemicals in the air...blood, metals, chemicals, and all kinds of stuff. Da gobmit trying to change or kill all of us.
It all be a consprcy, dontch know?


14 posted on 03/13/2013 11:43:16 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Little Pig

“...and on our way back down into the freezer again.”

Looking at the past interglacial warm periods - our current period is a bit on the long side, so I would not be surprised if we are not due for a REAL, mile-thick ice over Seattle, Ice Age.

Some scientists think that these ice-age periods can kick-off in a matter of years-decades, not the hundreds to thousands of years one might think. (I have read other papers that talk about rapid cooling on the order of weeks to months as well - but not sure how much the data backs up their ideas).

http://www.universetoday.com/83906/younger-dryas/

http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/nerc130k.html


15 posted on 03/14/2013 12:25:46 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Global warming is a big hoax. The Earth is cooling not warming so the news media and gov changed the name of global warming to climate change.

This article is just more proof of this hoax

The government funded this hoax . gov spent trillions of $ in grants to fund decades of this totally fake research .

This alone proves that government(socialism) can never work. they are totally unaccountable to reality, to truth , to efficiency etc. If you open up a private business you are accountable to the bottom line, to efficiency, to your customers. government agencies are not and idiots in universities receiving government grants to do global warming research are not accountable to anything .

Then they and the news media use this fake research to further grow government and take away our freedom. And many sheep believe the government and news media brainwashing. They actually believe capitalism (big oil etc) are destroying the planet with global warming. And when I tell these liberals and other sheep that global warming is a hoax many laugh , others look at me like I'm crazy. the media and gov are the problem. We should email this to Rush and drudge etc.

16 posted on 03/14/2013 1:56:20 AM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow, the temperature of this planet goes up and down, who knew?


17 posted on 03/14/2013 2:05:05 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Marine_Uncle
All the good reporting on the erroneous so called scientific sanctioned science on what we call AGW in general, with such articles as this miss the point that the over all raw data that enters into various models used by various sources is BAD, MODIFIED to meet an agenda. In short. Garbage in. Garbage out.

True enough. There have been numerous articles on just that. In fact, that's where I first heard of Anthony Watts. He was challenging the temperatures reported by weather stations where the local environment had changed (eg, paving or nearby structures added) which caused the reported temperature to increase.

I am no expert on global warming, but I do try to make sure that my friends and acquaintances are made aware of such developments, as well as the ClimateGate revelations. The MSM isn't going to tell the public about information which would cause doubt that global warming was occurring or that it was man made. So, we have to bypass the MSM, making them more and more irrelevant.

If the public remains ignorant, it will be because people like us, who have read the information, have failed to point our friends to the places on the internet where they can read it themselves.

18 posted on 03/14/2013 2:30:41 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Comet PanSTARRS - The Movie
19 posted on 03/14/2013 3:19:51 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Updated [http://tinyurl.com/d2opv9v] [http://tinyurl.com/ccqyjmb])
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Btw, all five of the datasets have uncertainties of about 0.05 degrees C, so any change less than that is statistically insignificant.

Only if the 0.05 degrees was a bias, rather than a fluctuation. If I take 100 independent measurements of a variable (say temperature) with a population standard deviation of 0.05 degrees, the standard deviation of the mean is 0.05/squareroot(100)= 0.005 degrees. That's how averaging works. The same sort of thing operates when taking annual measurements and fitting them to a trend line. The standard deviation in both the intercept and the coefficient are reduced by averaging. (In y = m*x + b, b is the intercept and m is coefficient.)

20 posted on 03/14/2013 3:23:13 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
LOVE SNOW
21 posted on 03/14/2013 3:42:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Updated [http://tinyurl.com/d2opv9v] [http://tinyurl.com/ccqyjmb])
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To: 21twelve
The Younger Dryas event, though short in duration, started with a bang ~ in the morning the mastadons were peacefully eating daffodils and by afternoon they were frozen solid!

It is believed currently that a comet hit the residual ice sheat in Canada. The broken pieces then clogged the Gulf of St. Lawrence, and the massive fresh water runoff into the Atlantic actually brought the North Atlantic thermohaline circulation to a halt. Europe instantly returned to Ice Age glacial conditions.

22 posted on 03/14/2013 4:16:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’d even agree to let Al Gore get up there and take credit for ending global warming if they promise that everyone else would just Shut Up Already.


23 posted on 03/14/2013 5:56:03 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here you go,,....

The magnetic field strength of newly formed sunspots continues to decrease linearly. It appears the solar magnetic cycle has been interrupted. Livingston and Penn are predicting the sun will be spotless starting 2014, and a Maunder minimum for solar cycle 25

The most oft-cited example of a shutdown in sun spots is the so-called Maunder Minimum, a 70-year period that began around 1645. Sun spots virtually vanished from the sun's surface.

The decline coincided with a climate period known as the Little Ice Age, when temperatures fell substantially in various locations around the globe and different times during the time span.

24 posted on 03/14/2013 7:19:45 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No, NO!
Our admiral in the Pacific says our biggest enemy is global warming. Isn’t anyone listening? It’s the real deal, people! These scientists are all wrong!
The admiral says we should be planning to use our forces to combat the threat of changing climate challenges...to ARMS!


25 posted on 03/14/2013 7:43:53 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Rocky
RE: "If the public remains ignorant, it will be because people like us,
who have read the information, have failed to point our friends to
the places on the internet where they can read it themselves."

Your absolutely correct.
26 posted on 03/14/2013 1:34:02 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTTT!


27 posted on 03/14/2013 5:49:00 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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28 posted on 03/14/2013 7:44:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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Thanks Ernest.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 8:16:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AlexW

For Gormanda’’s sake, would you give it up with that chemtrail nonsense?

It is a proven scientificated factoid that spritzing a 50/50 mix of vinegar water at them nullifies their effects within the spritzitized spritsphere.

If everyone would just do their Gormanda mandated doodie, and spritz, we’d have nothing to worry about except worry itself!


30 posted on 03/14/2013 10:13:47 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

“For Gormanda’’s sake, would you give it up with that chemtrail nonsense?”
_________________________________________________

Well, I did word my Chem-trail post to emphasis the pure absurdity of those that are convinced that every contrail is really a government conspiracy to poison everyone.
The only chem-trail that i know about is when that Stearman
dropped down to ten feet above my cotton crop to kill those pesky bowlweevels.


31 posted on 03/14/2013 10:36:15 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

The vinegar spritz is straight from the Paulista’s Chemtail Counter-Ofensive Playbook.

It was offered in the same spirit as your original post, designed to pull the opposite leg, so readers would again be on an even stance.


32 posted on 03/14/2013 11:53:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: spokeshave

Someone needs to start a blog on the best places to live during a Little Ice Age.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 1:58:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll take “It’s the Sunspots” for $500 please, Alex.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 2:08:30 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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