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Prehistoric Birds May Have Used Four Wings To Fly
Smithsonian ^ | 3-14-13

Posted on 03/14/2013 6:43:48 PM PDT by Dysart

Roughly 150 million years ago, birds began to evolve. The winged creatures we see in the skies today descended from a group of dinosaurs called theropods, which included tyrannosaurs, during a 54-million-year chunk of time known as the Jurassic period. Why the ability to fly evolved in some species is a difficult question to answer, but scientists agree that wings came to be because they must have been useful: they might have helped land-based animals leap into the air, or helped gliding creatures who flapped their arms produce thrust.

As researchers continue to probe the origin of flight, studies of fossils have shown that theropods–particularly coelurosaurian dinosaurs, which closely resemble modern birds—had large feathers on both their fore limbs and hind limbs. However, extensive evidence for these leg feathers didn’t exist in the earliest birds. But now, a new examination of fossils reported today in the journal Science reveals several examples of this four-winged anatomy in modern birds’ oldest common ancestors.

Modern birds have two types of feathers: vaned feathers that cover the outside of the body, and the down feathers that grow underneath them.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: birs; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; dinosaur; dinosaurs; feathers; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology
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A fossil of a prehistoric bird from the enantiornithine genus shows feathers on its hind legs—evidence of an extra pair of wings. Courtesy of Xiaoting Zheng et al/Science

1 posted on 03/14/2013 6:43:48 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Yeah, sure. This from those who jabber about the world being 150 million years old. While science obviously proves otherwise.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 6:48:30 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Dysart

NBA players should be developing wings and feathers any day now to help them leap.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 6:53:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Dysart
Thanks.

Feathered dinosaur to winged dinosaur with feathers on four limbs to birds with feathers on four limbs to birds withfeathers on two limbs.

Add a little brain development in there to provide the processing systems necessary to control two-winged flight and you've got modern birds.

So, why parrots?

4 posted on 03/14/2013 6:53:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dysart

5 posted on 03/14/2013 6:58:50 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: muawiyah

Bwahaha...yeah, piece a cake...


6 posted on 03/14/2013 6:59:00 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: muawiyah
Feathers on four limbs:


7 posted on 03/14/2013 7:02:07 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Ron C.

Who thinks the world is 150 million years old?


8 posted on 03/14/2013 7:05:44 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Dysart

I recommend the author simply read Genesis. Evolution ain’t what our “educated” literates crack it up to be. There are no proven instances of macro evolution. None. Zip.


9 posted on 03/14/2013 7:07:13 PM PDT by Tudorfly
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To: muawiyah
Why Parrots? Open question there, but I will answer what I think you mean. I see Parrots as I do Mockingbirds. Both mimics but with different diet and thus adaptive beaks. All songs serve the same dual purpose in birds. I think mimics are more evolved. Clearly higher processing is required to replicate other species' songs. We know, or it is believed, that mimic behavior is used to attract mates and communicate territorial claims. Further, it has been shown that Mockingbirds with the best repertoire of songs (esp males) have better breeding success than those more limited. So, I would assume the same would be true with Parrots- although I have studied Mockingbirds as a hobbyist but not Parrots. But in the same way mimic behavior and the higher intelligence required to produce it would be an adaptive advantage, right? ie, the female would select the best and smartest genes to pass along in response to this behavior.
10 posted on 03/14/2013 7:17:21 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: EEGator

Nobody.


11 posted on 03/14/2013 7:19:01 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

My point exactly.


12 posted on 03/14/2013 7:20:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Dysart

Yeah but, how many ‘scientists’ believe the earth is only about 4 to 5 thousand years old at most?


13 posted on 03/14/2013 7:35:39 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Tudorfly

Indeed. Those “science” bozos are just pulling it out of their butts.


14 posted on 03/14/2013 7:38:01 PM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: Ron C.

I am unaware of any credible person that subscribes to such nonsense.


15 posted on 03/14/2013 7:45:09 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: EEGator; Dysart
Who thinks the world is 150 million years old?

From "Darwin's Ghost" by Steve Jones, we have (based on Moon rocks picked up on the Apollo XI mission) that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old.

16 posted on 03/14/2013 7:52:31 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

My thought precisely.


17 posted on 03/14/2013 7:55:33 PM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: OldNavyVet

I’m in agreement with that. My point was to the original poster stating 150 million. No one thinks that.


18 posted on 03/14/2013 7:58:25 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Dysart
What the female is looking for is some sign that the parrot is her kinda' guy ~ not that he has superior genes ~ just the same genes.

His ability to produce the signal that conveys that information is the part that tells her if he's capable of helping feed the chicks.

BTW, all the parrots of the same species have just about the same genes ~ maybe a few differences here and there with methylation ~ but same same!

My concern with parrots is they have more advanced brains ~ and yet they don't do very much different from other birds ~ in fact, my son prove that you can call a parrot down from a tree to sit on your shoulder just as you might a crow or a duck. Surprised his girlfriend I'll tell you that, but not me ~ or our other relatives.

Seriously, being a bird is not a mentally challenging occupation

19 posted on 03/14/2013 8:00:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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You dont think the female Parrot or Mockingbird chooses the best possible mate conveyed by superior songs, and some other display behavior among her suitors of the same species? Surely not.


20 posted on 03/14/2013 8:13:01 PM PDT by Dysart
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