Posted on 03/21/2013 7:53:39 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
Poll: Clinton Would Win Florida Over Bush, Rubio in 201 Thursday, 21 Mar 2013 08:59 AM By Lisa Barron Florida voters would favor Democrat Hillary Clinton by a wide margin over either former GOP Gov. Jeb Bush or GOP Sen. Marco Rubio in a presidential election if it were held today, according to new poll of state voters. The Quinnipiac University survey of 1,000 registered state voters taken March 13-18 put the former secretary of state ahead of Bush by a 51 percent to 40 percent margin and ahead of Rubio by 52 percent to 41 percent. We probably wont know for some time whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2016. But if she decides to make the race, she begins with a sizable lead in a state that Republicans cannot win the White House without, said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. While Clinton, who has consistently proven to be the strongest potential candidate in Quinnipiac national polls, has a whopping 93 percent to 5 percent favorability rating among Democrats in Florida, she is also viewed favorably by a respectable 26 percent of Republican voters. Equally significant, she has a 57 percent to 35 percent favorability rating among independents. Overall, Clinton was viewed more favorably by voters - 62 percent to 33 percent - than Bush and Rubio. Bush drew a 50 percent to 35 percent favorability rating, while Rubio received a 41 percent to 34 percent rating. In additional findings, the poll also revealed overwhelming support among Florida voters for the idea of mandatory universal background checks on people who want to buy guns, with 91 percent to 8 percent in favor. The survey also found that 51 percent of respondents favor tougher gun control laws, while 56 percent
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I’d like to say it’s bull sh!t, but Florida is a blue state now.
Rick Scott is also going to lose, and rightly so.
He’s done such a piss poor job that he is trailing Charlie Crist(Whore) by 12%, and he is trailing every other major dem candidate too.
I hope West decides to run for gov, otherwise it’s going to get worse.
Florida has one Democrat elected statewide, and only because he’s an astronaut. In 2010, we elected an 80% Republican House and big Senate majority, too. Our 2012 election is no indication of our state’s political environment. We should have won FL by a descent margin. The difference in campaign organization made a huge difference in November here...probably the only state where it was clearly the difference (VA might be the only other). We simply were outgunned on the ground.
No, that's not what I said.
What I said is that a candidate that makes a complete ban on all abortions in all circumstances, and a complete ban on gay marriage the CENTERPIECE of their campaign would lose in 2016, and any US Presidential election in the next 1,000 years.
I ASSURE you that any candidate with the full approval of the FR RINO police would have lost far worse than Romney or McCain in those elections, and the same would happen in 2016.
I’m inclined to support an experiment to prove this in 2016, as I noted, but the problem is after such a candidate gets crushed, the loss would be blamed on Karl Rove and not the candidate.
In fact, if the Dems get all the double-dipper absentee ballots in from Nooyawk, and Joisey, not to mention Michigan and Ohio,extend the voting period to 3 months, register more illegal aliens and give them absentee ballots, keep the vans going back and forth from the black churches after their people have filled in their multiple ballots, and carefully register the dead and throw in their absentees, suppress the military vote, and if all else fails, go to fake chads and the creation of virtual families, I shouldn't be at all surprised if Raoul Castro beats Bush and the constitutionally ineligible Rubio in Floriduh.
Must be the heat. This place is the worst vote fraud state anywhere. Democracy here is truly The Tyranny of the Stupid. And the Republicans, who acquiesced in giving the fraudsters more time to figure out exactly how many votes to steal and manufacture
Reagan proved that people will vote for a candidate they perceive will be a good leader, even if they disagree with them on the issues.
“CW-II, its in our future.”
We are not talking about a Civil War...think Revolutionary. It is like 1776, only worse. And a majority is not needed. The Patriots of 1776 were a minority. They got the job done.
I agree....She’s seriously ill.
South Florida is doing the same thing to us as NYC has done to the North East region.
That’s why I said “Presidential” elections. While a state can still have a majority Republican representatives in the US Congress and still dominate the state legislature they can still lose the Presidential vote. This is the case in Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvanid. The reasons are two-fold.
First, most counties are still majority Republican so Republicans can get more representatives elected, but when it comes to a winner take the whole state popular vote urban populations which vote Democrat can cancel out rural and suburban areas that vote Republican.
Second, people that are interested in politics like us vote in midterm elections for US Reps and state officials. That’s why Republicans dominated the 2010 midterm elections, but lost the Presidency in ‘08 and ‘12. White people, and thus disproportionately Republicans, have a higher rate of voting in midterms. They, however, lose that advantage when a President is on the ballot because minorities actually do go to the polls for that vote.
best hope is to send Christie and Colin Powell over to infiltrate the Democrats...
And that gap will grow if Rubio-Obama Illegal Alien Amnesty is passed. GOP loses when the conservative base stays home
A ground game has to have a message that resonates with the voters. Otherwise, it's no different from any other telemarketing scam.
I'm having a hard time seeing how any Rovian variant of "They're more fascist than we are!" is going to make dinnertime interruptions more palatable to Joe Average.
If the Republicans were ethical, they could make great commercials about asset forfeiture, Drug War overreach, militarized Federal police, IRS intrusiveness and Gladiola the $200K/year DMV Lady...but they are 100% vulnerable to the charge that they themselves created more than half of this gigantic fascist infrastructure. Plus Wackenhut, Chertoff, and the other beneficiaries of the Security/Surveillance Complex would be mighty pissed at the GOP if any backtracking occurred at this point.
Rand Paul has shown us the only thing that has any chance of restoring the GOP brand at this point: Fight the Leviathan State in all its forms. Concede that the Wars on Drugs and Terror did more harm to Americans than to criminals and terrorists. Do it publicly. Do it now. Get out in front of it.
The Democrats have won elections they had no business winning for years by playing libertarian against a perceived Republican Big Brother. That has to end - now. Democrats are the ones who love state power, and who won't be able to let go of it when faced with vocal public demand for its reduction. Their mask has to be ripped off, for the voters to see.
Every one of your posts in this thread are spot on.
The GOP cannot win if the Conservative base stays home. Doubly true with Florida as a large number of Conservatives are elderly
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It’s sad how far this country has sunk-
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