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Pocket-Pistol Lessons
http://www.americanrifleman.org/ ^ | 04/23/2013 | Adam Heggenstaller

Posted on 04/24/2013 11:28:11 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

Establishing a bond with a pocket pistol is similar to marriage—in one way: You have to be willing to accept compromise. To make any compromise worth the effort, there must be a clear objective. In this case preserving your life is the goal, and pocket pistols, whether diminutive semi-automatics or small-frame revolvers, do their part and offer a solution that is easy to carry concealed. Merely slipping one into the front pocket of your jacket, however, will not prevent a determined threat from causing you bodily harm. To stop a violent attack, you must be prepared to counter with force adequate to end the confrontation. Therein lies the compromise. In exchange for realizing the benefits of a pocket pistol’s small size, light weight and ease of concealment, you trade accuracy, capacity, ease of handling and power. So while a pocket pistol may be the most convenient tool to have at hand, it is often far from ideal. The first step in dealing with its limitations is realizing it will likely be more difficult to defend yourself with a pocket pistol than with any other firearm.

Unfortunately, many citizens who carry pocket pistols are lulled into a false sense of security and don’t recognize and plan for the relative deficiencies of their little handguns. That is particularly true of those who carry a pocket pistol as a backup to their primary sidearm. True, many pocket pistols are simple to fire because their double-action-only triggers or striker-type mechanisms eliminate the need to disengage a frame-mounted safety. It’s also true that most defensive engagements take place at short range. But to assume these factors warrant a nonchalant attitude is foolish, and potentially deadly.

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To: SnakeDoctor

Gorgeous!

I’m in love....


61 posted on 04/24/2013 3:12:51 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: BO Stinkss

No pics-I am an HTML dummy

Keltec P3AT

Used to carry a Colt 1903 Pocket hammerless in .32. That one has been relegated to the safe and occassional range time. Been in the family since 1915.


62 posted on 04/24/2013 3:15:45 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
You can also get an extended mag that will give you 9 rounds of .40 or 14 in the 9mm version.

IMHO, one of the best firepower to size ratios in the civilian market.

But you're already aware of my CZ bias :-)

63 posted on 04/24/2013 3:17:29 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Jack Hammer

64 posted on 04/24/2013 3:25:35 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Here's my latest pick up. The Sig c3 1911. Commander length barrel, but compact frame. Still is a 7+1 gun in .45.


65 posted on 04/24/2013 3:26:43 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dusty Road

I have an Alley cat...a Tomcat with luminescent sights. I can see the logic of taking the sights off, however. I can’t hit the broadside of a barn with mine, but it’ll do as a fight stopper.

Boobed hammer? Hmmmm


66 posted on 04/24/2013 3:30:06 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Schweet!...although I've never been a big fan of the beaver tail safeties. I just see too many folks going through a lot of trouble to make their 1911s "snag free", bobbing sights, hammer spurs, etc., then putting a big ole anchor hook on the grip safety.
67 posted on 04/24/2013 3:34:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well, most of my other 1911’s have been full size or commander size .38 Supers from the 50’s and 60’s, and the standard grip safety is pretty small, and if you get a high hold on the gun sometimes they wouldn’t release. And the design, with the recess for the hammer, does keep clothing from getting stuck.

So, what’s more embarrassing... ripping your shirt to pieces on the draw, or squeezing down and hearing nothing?


68 posted on 04/24/2013 3:42:15 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"So, what’s more embarrassing... ripping your shirt to pieces on the draw, or squeezing down and hearing nothing?"

I usually shoot topless with my well oiled pecs glistening in the sun ;-)

69 posted on 04/24/2013 3:45:03 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Personally I haven’t felt or fired anything nearly as good as the XDM line.


70 posted on 04/24/2013 3:45:54 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Joe 6-pack
I usually shoot topless with my well oiled pecs glistening in the sun ;-)

LOL! We must be related... on a thread about how "racking a pump shotgun will make the bad guy instantly lose bowel control" I posted that my technique was to confront the intruder in a cowboy hat, BVD whitey-tighties, and boots, spin cocking a Winchester 92 in each hand like the "Rifleman".

71 posted on 04/24/2013 3:48:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BO Stinkss

In exchange for realizing the benefits of a pocket pistol’s small size, light weight and ease of concealment, you trade accuracy, capacity, ease of handling and power.
***If you add a laser, I don’t think you lose accuracy. A few months ago I asked on one of these threads if anyone had done a test of accuracy on quick draw comparing a 4” barrel to a 2” barrel with laser. And as far as ease of handling, isn’t a smaller gun better than a larger gun?


72 posted on 04/24/2013 3:49:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: PhiloBedo

Hey you bob your hammer and I’ll boob mine. My fingers have a mind of their own and it’s in the gutter.


73 posted on 04/24/2013 3:58:50 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Joe 6-pack

I looked at and shot the CZ Rami when I bought my Bersa UC Pro. The Bersa actually had less recoil and carries the same amount. Also, the Bersa weight is perfect for a small 9mm. The Rami didn’t have night sights and the Bersa did, so I went with Bersa. Having plenty of seventeen round mags that I can slap into it is a plus I only came up with after owning the little gun for a while.


74 posted on 04/24/2013 4:05:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Sig P238 Extreme.


75 posted on 04/24/2013 4:05:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
LOL...I try to think through a lot of different potential self-defense scenarios for confrontations at home, buying gas, parking lots, out jogging, etc.

Obviously situations that involve a thief or band of thieves in the night will involve shooting in your sleep wear, which is why I've taken to sleeping in swimming trunks or athletic shorts with a drawstring. They'll support the weight of a spare mag, and most have pockets so if you have to evacuate with absolutely no notice (i.e. the house is on fire) you at least have a place to throw your wallet and car keys.

76 posted on 04/24/2013 4:07:59 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If I tried that, I wouldn’t need the Winchesters, the perp would be incapacitated laughing.


77 posted on 04/24/2013 4:10:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
You must have looked at the standard Rami. The BD comes standard with the tritium sights.

I'm comfortable with the recoil in mine (which is .40), so I guess that's a matter of ergonomic preference.

78 posted on 04/24/2013 4:27:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I used to carry (for years in fact) a .22lr semi. Went up to a 9 x 18 CZ82 for a while, then settled on 9mm with the Bersa. I don’t shoot a 40 cal well enough on second and thrid shots to depend on it. I have a nice 3rd gen Glock 23 with the beavertail grip fix but still had to convert it to a 19 because I can rattle 9mm all day in a decent pattern at thirty feet but throw them all over the place in 40. The Glock has a veridian green hanging on it, which makes it ideal for home defense night work.


79 posted on 04/24/2013 4:36:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ctdonath2

Shoot em in the eye or the nuts.


80 posted on 04/24/2013 4:48:04 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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