Posted on 05/16/2013 12:43:34 PM PDT by MestaMachine
BENGHAZI DOT ONE, WHY THE VIDEO AND WHY AP
This began as a response to a question posed by 'just a hairy ape' on a previous thread. To fully understand Benghazi, I have to go back and break this down into parts. There was more than one reason and we need to understand them all which isn't easy,(and even less easy to explain,) because there are details long forgotten as if each 'thing' was in a box of its own separate from each other 'thing'. In reality, they are connected in a myriad of ways. So this is going to have to be a series. Step by step. Inch by inch. Slowly we turn.
This was the question that started the response. He was alluding to obama's speech at the UN where he continued to blame the video.
"So Obama was endorsing the terrorist attack against the US ?"
My response: "On a worldwide stage."
I am going to repeat this since I have been reminding people to remember how the whole video thing started.
obama was, and had been, embroiled in yet another showdown with Netanyahu. IT WAS STAGED. The dustup was that he refused to meet with Bibi at the UN. Netanyahu had already beaten obama at his own game a multitude of times and it was well known that obama hated him.
Netanyahu was in the middle of Israeli elections and the obama admin had already sent people over to do everything they could to unseat Bibi as Israel's PM. It wasn't working...not even close.
Meanwhile, obama had been searching for a way to give the third and final edict that the US was/is a muslim country. He had already done it twice in muslim countries but never on our own soil. And NOW there is yet another damning twist in this horror story.
If you want the full meal deal, bookmark this because it's only one of more to come.
Here are the mini-dots on DOT ONE.
The very first story out of the box is that the vid maker was an 'anonymous' Israeli Jewish billionaire.
But then. along came AP.
Anonymous Filmaker found by AP
The anti-Muslim film implicated in mob protests against U.S. diplomatic missions in the Mideast received logistical help from a man once convicted of financial crimes and featured actors who complained that their inflammatory dialogue was dubbed in after filming.
The self-proclaimed director of “Innocence of Muslims” initially claimed a Jewish and Israeli background.
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, told The Associated Press in an interview outside Los Angeles Wednesday that he managed logistics for the company that produced “Innocence of Muslims,” which mocked Muslims and the prophet Muhammad.
The AP located Bacile after obtaining his cellphone number from Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian in the U.S. who had promoted the anti-Muslim film in recent days on his website. Egypt’s Christian Coptic populace has long decried what they describe as a history of discrimination and occasional violence from the country’s Arab majority.
Nakoula denied he had directed the film, though he said he knew the self-described filmmaker, Sam Bacile. But the cellphone number that the AP contacted Tuesday to reach the filmmaker who identified himself as Bacile traced to the same address near Los Angeles where Nakoula was located.
Nakoula told the AP he is a Coptic Christian and supported the concerns of Christian Copts about their treatment by Muslims.
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As Walid Shoebat revealed however, not even that was a the truth, although the WH has never stopped claiming it. In fact, they ignored Shoebat's revelation which laid out Nakoula's entire background and exposed him as an FBI asset and a muslim.
Innocence of Muslims made by Terrorists
Shoebat ^ | 9/25/12 | Walid Shoebat
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:17:32 PM by Ben Barrack
Excerpt:
There is more to the story of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula than what we are told by the media. Court documents reveal that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, producer of the movie Innocence of Muslims, partnered in a scheme with Eiad Salameh, my first cousin, a Palestinian Muslim from Beit Sahour in the Palestinian district of Bethlehem.
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NO ONE has followed up on Shoebat's assertions. Why not?
BUT NOW YOU KNOW WHY DOJ WENT HARD AND FAST AFTER AP! Because only the PLANNERS knew the identity of the vid maker. So if AP found him, they concluded that someone very high up in the planning MUST have leaked it and they were damned frantically trying to find out who. In other words, they PANICKED, and holder recused himself because he is involved in this up to his shifty eyeballs. Nakoula was a DOJ asset...so holder HAS to be involved and so far, no one has even thought to question him about Benghazi.
The WHY of the vid was to be able to claim that Israel was responsible for the planned attack on Benghazi which they knew was coming on September 11 to avenge the death of ya ya al libi which they had NO INTENTION of stopping.
They knew the word was out to hit Stevens long in advance and aquiesced to it because that is the way they have done business with al qaeda for years. WE hit a 'high value' target, and we give them one back. Does ANYONE still believe that the downed Chinook with 20 Navy SEALs on board was just a routine taliban attack?
NO.
But this time, they also had other fish to fry and david petraeus is nothing if not a fantastical fish fryer. How do you think he got to be head of the CIA in the first place?
The gunrunning out of Benghazi was his op in collusion with brennan, obama, and clinton. They were NOT simply running guns to Syria, Many of those weapons were being diverted through Turkey to the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and being smuggled across the Rafah Crossing into Gaza for use against Israel...and Israel was beginning to expose it.
THIS time they could set this up to blame Israel, make Netanyahu VERY unpopular here in the US, cost him his election, and possibly facillitate an actual all out attack on Israel by an al qaeda/mb backed army which would have cost Israel dearly in blood and treasure.
So they brought in their trusted thug at DOJ and the plan was hatched well in advance. What is worse is that it would have worked if everything had gone exactly as planned.But it didn't.
There would have been NO witnesses left alive. It would have been a complete slaughter had Ty Woods and Glen Doherty not disobeyed direct orders.
We would not be looking at cables sent begging for help. We would not know that help was not only denied on that terrible night, but that Stevens' security had been reduced to nil. I believe he knew he was going to be sacrificed. It was pretty obvious. What he probably didn't know was why.
There are ALWAYS variables you don't foresee like the Cairo Embassy apologizing to protesters before there were any, and this op had plenty more of them.
Snafu one- Woods and Doherty.
Snafu two- CNN found Chris Stevens' diary in the burnt out shell before the CIA or FBI got there.
Snafu three- AP found the video maker.
Snafu four- They decided to RUN with the original script that it was the video that caused the uprisings, but they changed it to reflect that Nakoula was a protesting Coptic Christian from Egypt.
Snafu five- Once AP found the guy, Walid Shoebat found out that his partner in crime was none other than Shoebat's own first cousin...a pa terrorist...and that Nakoula was an FBI asset.
NOW look back and recall that obama had just previously started an international argument with Netanyahu which swept the front pages of every major news outlet in the world. A deliberate snub of Netanyahu for a meeting at the UN. And yet on the very night of September 11, in the MIDDLE of the attack in Benghazi, obama calls Netanyahu and talks for an hour, unaware that the SEALs had screwed his plan. Had the op gone as planned. the morning headlines would have had Israel in their crosshairs and obama could then say he was arguing or angry with Netanyahu and THAT was the reason for the irrelevant phone call during the heat of the battle in Benghazi.
obama went to bed that night thinking about, and probably rehearsing for, his news conference about the slaughter of 41 Americans because of Israel's recklessness putting Americans in danger all over the world.
obama went to bed that night without issuing any orders whatsoever and made himself unreachable. Anyone who WANTED to do something, couldn't. The ONLY person who could have nade a difference that night was obama...and he was AWOL.
obama went to bed that night without a care in the world...and when he woke up, hell was breaking loose. So what did he do? He followed his campaign schedule because he hadn't a clue what had happened.
After they found out what had gone wrong, they stubbornly stuck to the script, proof or no proof, to give obama his day in the sun at the UN. Worse, he and clinton tried to deliberately provoke even more muslim violence to blame on the video by making a commercial ostensibly for Pakistan, but shown around the world apologizing for it where no one ever heard of it.
Well, he couldn't attack Israel. He couldn't blame Netanyahu. But he could still GLORIFY ISLAM at the UN and they kept the video story alive until he completed that task by announcing, and I quote, "The future must not belong to those who slander the HOLY prophet of Islam."
This might be one of the most evil speeches I have ever seen in my lifetime.
So now you know why the video and why AP. And I will end here because DOT TWO will be coming ASAP.
We should not be surprised that a demonically driven liar would use taqiyya (or is it taqqiya?).
In response to the vid:
Evidently, the uproar that he caused by what he said has been forgotten. The youtube is the official wh gov vid. As so many times before, it is what they say it is. I am telling you I watched it. I know what he said, but I will concede that I only know what I know, so even if he did NOT use the word ‘holy’, the speech was a lie based on a lie and there is no way of wiping that clean.
The entire premise was still that the video caused what happened at Benghazi. He lied through his teeth to the entire world and he KNEW it.
This article does not stand or fall on one word. And the context of the speech was the underlying lie that he used to absolve himself of any blame whatsoever and that the murders were in response to the slander of ‘the prophet’ and not simply coldblooded murder without reason.
Please see post #122
Do we have the vid of bam’s original UN speech? They scrubbed it.
I’ve looked at a few copies of this speech - there are several, from different outlets - and they all seem to just say prophet, not holy.
Captioning will get ya, sometimes.
That is my take, that Nakoula was found to be the FBI asset.
I asked hardraade to check other vids because as some of you might or might not know, I am deaf and need ro depend on captions to know what people are saying. It’s hard to read lips and watch captions at the same time, So the caption was incorrect and I apologize. Please do not allow one word to ger in the way of the real truth which is that the foundation he built that speech on was a complete and utter lie.
Again, I apologize.
mark
I agree with hardraade that “captioning will get you sometimes” and given your comments, I accept your explanation. My concern was basically this… when one is presenting a story like this (as in making a factually based case), it is imperative that everything essentially be letter perfect and line up…. and those areas that are speculative and need more information be identified as such. Otherwise, one runs the risk that a reader’s scrutiny that uncovers one minor issue that doesn’t line up will cause a reader to be dismissive of the whole piece on no other grounds than “well if that was overstated, what else has been overstated?”. On such an important story as this, that can’t be allowed to happen.
Well, the article has been corrected and explained to the analyst groups that have been pinged to it. It’s now getting some international attention, as well as from DC.
Here is one comment from a US professional:
Former top mil analyst doing the ultimate dismantling of Benghazi, part one:...
Very interesting analysis...and very plausible. We’ll have to see how this plays out
http://www.thebusinessjournal.com/news/state/3255-feds-id-california-mans-role-in-anti-islam-film
Somehow Terry Jones got mixed up in this mess. I have no affiliation with Jones. I only know of him from his book burning publicity tour. And then he pops up in the public eye having Dempsey call him.
I agree with you a thousand percent. That is why I asked for hardraade to please check it out because I didn’t want the entire article to rise or fall on one word. I can’t edit this article, but I did change it for the junipersec blog.
http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/benghazi-dot-one-why-the-video-and-why-ap/
Post #133 was meant for hecticskeptic. As you can probably tell, I am a tad agitated at myself.
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 1:40:06 AM by Rabin
The Innocence of Muslims film, (Desert Warrior) describes it as a "historical Arabian Desert adventure film." By, Sam Bassiel, Sam Bacile, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a filmmaker with ties to Coptic Christian groups; which cost $100,000 to produce, co-ordinated by Joseph Nasrallah Abdelmasih's Media for Christ nonprofit. Directed by soft pornographer Alan Roberts, an industry veteran whose prior work was dominated by titles like "Happy Hooker Goes Hollywood"..
Who is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula?
"Federal authorities confirmed to the AP news agency that Nakoula was indeed connected to the persona of "Sam Bacile", a man who had initially claimed to the AP that he was the film's writer and director."
"But Bacile turned out to be a false identity, and the AP traced a cellphone number Bacile used to a southern California house where it located and interviewed the real Nakoula."
"Bacile first said he was Jewish and Israeli, but Israeli officials said they had no records of such a citizen. Others involved in the film said his statements were contrived, as evidence mounted that the film's key player was an Egyptian-American Copt with a checkered past."
"Nakoula told the AP in an interview on Wednesday that he managed logistics for the company that produced the film. But Nakoula still denied he was Bacile and said he did not direct the film - though he said he "knew" Bacile."
If anybody can show me anything that confirms the Yemen story, please alert me.
In the meantime, all we have is media speculation. For instance:
"Holder repeatedly pleaded ignorance about the wiretapping of AP editors and reporters, saying he had recused himself from what was evidently an investigation about a CIA counter-terrorism operation in Yemen last year."
Eric Holder Confirms Deputy AG James Cole Authorized Seizure of Associated Press Phone Records
Please note that the above quote was from holder’s own sworn testimony before Congress. NOWHERE did he mention either a timeline or a REASON for the wiretaps, and yet the author of the article saw fit to include “evidently”. WHY was it evident when no one from doj has ever mentioned it?
The article is still drawing hits on the blog, both from the pros and the press. Gonna be real interesting when the rest pops out.
And waiting for your blood tests on Monday, I dropped a little bit into your kitty :).
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