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19 Obvious Reasons Why 'Star Wars' Is Better Than 'Star Trek'
Business Insider ^ | 05/17/2013 | Chris C Anderson

Posted on 05/18/2013 3:47:25 PM PDT by Carbonsteel

Even counting the newer "Star Wars" installments, the franchise is still better than the "Star Trek" universe. Fightin' words.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment; Science; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: startrek; startrekintodarkness; starwars
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If you go through the list it's easy to agree with a couple of the examples provided.

I've always been partial to Star Trek myself.

This is bit of a silly topic but a little fun none the less.

1 posted on 05/18/2013 3:47:25 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

Neat topic for sure. Not important in life but with all the seriousness that is going on, it is nice to have a little fun. I also am glad that these two franchises don’t go up against each other with a new release the same weekend....that would be something.


2 posted on 05/18/2013 3:49:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Carbonsteel

They didn’t even have the list handy. I grew up with Star Trek in black and white even. You need better reasons for Star wars as my like outweighs your “reason”s.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 3:53:28 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Carbonsteel

The Star Trek reboots moved me more to the Star Trek side. It seems I never move far from the center. Now they both have thrown out a Bush is bad, the US starts wars to take over movie.


4 posted on 05/18/2013 3:56:28 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Carbonsteel

What made both (Star wars and Star Trek the original cast and series) very good was the sense of humor in them. In the later Star wars ones that came out in the 2000s, Lucas all but trashed that. He took it way too serious which killed it which is why in my opinion they suck. That last one, Star wars revenge of the Sith was pretty good except for that moron Hayden whatever his name is who couldn’t act his way into a Democrat fundraiser wearing a Che shirt stuffed with money. They forget that humor = believability. That’s the way people interact in a social setting, humor is always involved in one way or another. I can’t remember one scene of humor in any of those later Star Wars episodes except for the retarded alien Jar Jar Binks which wasn’t humor at all, it was a Looney Tunes character without the charisma.


5 posted on 05/18/2013 3:57:56 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Carbonsteel
19: Carrie Fisher has turned into Jabba the Hut.

18: What Star Trek games?

17: This guy probably think Obama is a great leader.

16: I'll concede this one.

15: Remember the score from the first Star Trek film?

14: Just a bad point all the way around. It has to at least be believable.

13: Phasers and photon torpedoes!!

12: Maybe?

11: I'll concede this point as well.

10: Half naked green chicks.

09: I think the author might be gay.

08: Opening credits don't make or break a movie.

07: The borg!!!

06: ILM usually provided the effects for both franchises.

05: That's because it reminds of the Obama administration.

04: Remember the Ewoks or Jar Jar Binks?

03: The Enterprise is the coolest ship ever.

02: Just silly.

01: I'll concede this one.

6 posted on 05/18/2013 3:58:59 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

The reason for why Star Trek V was so underwhelming is because the bean counters at Paramount cut the funding for the movie.


7 posted on 05/18/2013 4:00:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Carbonsteel

Kirk has aged better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFaLokC9hqk


8 posted on 05/18/2013 4:01:16 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Carbonsteel

BLASPHEMY!

:-)

Ok, I love both. And throw in Stargate as well.


9 posted on 05/18/2013 4:02:14 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Carbonsteel

The best of the worst?


10 posted on 05/18/2013 4:03:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Carbonsteel

Star Trek was forward-looking and tried to deal with social issues. By the end of the episode, it was shown that in the fight between good and evil, good needs to be clever and not always play by the rules.

Star Wars was basically a tedious soap opera about a dysfunctional family. Kind of like of Dallas. The hardware was fun, though.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 4:04:13 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Insightful post, Grand Master! You deserve a tribble.


12 posted on 05/18/2013 4:04:21 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Carbonsteel

I always liked Star Trek when it first came out on TV. Still like that series pretty well tho there were a few individual shows which were pretty bad.

None of the Star Trek movies were any good tho Khan was fair. All the Star Wars movies were pretty good. The first two were really good. I did think Return of the Jedi was pretty thinly veiled liberal preaching. There was one Star Trek movie which was so bad that watching it should be considered extreme punishment. That one was the “Save the Whales” movie. Absolutely the stupidest movie I have ever seen.

Star Wars did have some hot babes whether I like them or not. Star Trek had a few in various episodes but none of the regular ones were really hot tho Yeoman whatever her name was, was not bad.


13 posted on 05/18/2013 4:06:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Flashing colorful panel lights conveying deep meanings, social justice, science, future, Western Civilization and such. Deep, man!


14 posted on 05/18/2013 4:06:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Jar Jar Binks”

You spoke the name of the evil... Space Basset...now you must forfeit your life....


15 posted on 05/18/2013 4:08:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Carbonsteel

I liked the original “Star Trek” tv-series, but not really anything beyond that. I liked the first two “Star Wars” movies, but didn’t really care for anything beyond that. If I had to choose, I probably go with Trek, because it holds a stronger nostalgia for me. Plus, it might also reflect my preference for science-fiction over science-fantasty.

The only way Trek (original) falters for me somewhat in retrospect is its weakness in female characters. I think it must be a Roddenberry thing. Just got through watching his other, earlier series, “The Lieutenant.” And I’m familiar with his “Have Gun Will Travel” scripts too. He’s really weak on females. Seems to look at them through a rather sexist prism, like they are all a bunch of two-diminsional cocktail waitresses. And it’s not just attributable to the era. Other series back then showed much stronger female roles, in guest-star appearances or otherwise. Roddenberry was just downright weak in this department.


16 posted on 05/18/2013 4:10:13 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Carbonsteel

17 posted on 05/18/2013 4:11:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Carbonsteel

Nerd fight.

Both are good in their own ways.

I definitely like the 3 original Star Wars movies better than the latter ones.

Conversely, I like the latter Star Trek Movies better than then the earlier movies (with the exception of “Wrath of Khan” and the whale movies (yes, I know it was a left-wing environmental screed, but the humor was appealing in that movie).

I like the original Star Trek TV series and the second Star Trek series. Enterprise had its moments too. However, I did not care for the space station one or the voyager.


18 posted on 05/18/2013 4:12:36 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Carbonsteel
Star Trek is clearly better.


19 posted on 05/18/2013 4:12:38 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Carbonsteel
07: The borg!!!

If the Borg had a lick of sense, they wouldn't even try to conquer Earth.

They'd park a recruiting ship in low earth orbit and offer eternal life to the elderly and dying.

20 posted on 05/18/2013 4:14:32 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Jonty30

The idea that any Star Trek movie was worse than Phantom Menace is laughable.


21 posted on 05/18/2013 4:15:05 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Carbonsteel

Star Wars copped out when it started appealing to little children instead of sticking to the traditional SF market of pimple-faced adolescent boys. But hey, you go where the money is. Live long and prosper. ;-)


22 posted on 05/18/2013 4:16:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Maceman

Well, there’s certainly one thing Trekkies take to: http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20050530_106573_106573


23 posted on 05/18/2013 4:17:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Carbonsteel

On point 13 - lightsabers? Sorry, communicators win, hands down. From the original flip phones to even the slab phones of today, communicators really struck a tone with pop culture and imagination. Sure, lightsabers are cool, but I can have them on my communicator too. :)

point 12: An extra boob wins against hobbit trolls.

Point 10: Uhura. With a bluetooth in her ear.

Point 9: Riker.

Point 5: Q. Nothing scared a Trek fan than hearing that Q was in an upcoming episode or movie. Nothing was more disastrous to the series.

Point 4: Jar Jar... That ain’t forgivable.

Point 3: The Enterprise series fixed much of this gripe. Then again, the US Navy is lacking in wave runners to go shoot at other wave runners with. The carrier is king.

Point 2: Might as well compare Lucas to Roddenbery, taking into account that one has been dead for so long. I’ll give points to the Great Bird of the Universe come roosting upon your porch.

Point 1: What a great villain, as Darth Vader. As Anikin Skywalker? KAAAAAAAAAAHNN!


24 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:04 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: mountainlion

Me too, I grew up with Star trek too in the 60s and maybe that’s the reason I like that one the best, but like my brother said, what made it so great was how it made the viewer use his imagination. Forget the cheesy sets and all the other stuff (like aliens always speaking English)...It was done in an expressionist -avant-garde style (no doubt due to budget constraints) which was a good thing because it forced imagination which made you feel it was yours. I remember my mood going wooooo absolutely through the freakin’ roof when I heard that theme...”Space...the final frontier..” Holy cow, nothing will ever beat that. I’m 52 and I think I must have literally watched every episode at least a few 100 times, I never get tired of it, it’s impossible.


25 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:24 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Carbonsteel; GraceG; Norm Lenhart
I am gonna stay outta this argument.....

Star Trek Generations is the Stupidest Movie Ever Made. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h06WKYFYdlo

Star Wars the Phantom Menace is the Most Disappointing thing Ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI


26 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:29 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Carbonsteel

The whole idea of a 6yr old little boy named Anakin flipping the same switch repeatedly to fly a space fighter and then destroying a armed military spaceship outweighs everything Star Wars after the first movie.

Then there’s “Luke I am your father”


27 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:41 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do uwhen I have a fire.)
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To: Carbonsteel

I never thought of Star Wars as science fiction. It’s a children’s story that takes place in space. Star Trek, by comparison, is very adult, sort of Gunsmoke in space.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:45 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Personal Responsibility

What I really liked about the Star Trek movies is that they all were really one big movie about the end of the careers of the whole cast.

I think it was probably unique amongst any serial movies ever produced in Hollywood.


29 posted on 05/18/2013 4:19:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Carbonsteel

What I’ve noticed as a grown up that I never understood as a kid:

“The Federation” is a giant UN fantasy where they don’t really want to kill the enemy; they would prefer the enemy made s’mores with them and sang Kum-By-Ah.

If Lucas has paid someone ten thousand bucks to write / edit the dialogue he’d have another billion dollars now. Truly cringe-worthy.


30 posted on 05/18/2013 4:20:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I have rarely gone to a movie knowing I’d regret it. But PM was that movie. I have the collection on DVD...and ‘it’ will one day become an unwatched collectors item.


31 posted on 05/18/2013 4:21:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Maceman; Revolting cat!
"Goodnight, John-boy."


32 posted on 05/18/2013 4:21:43 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
"Excuse me, I seem to have made a wrong turn someplace. Can you point me where the Star Crash discussion is currently being held?"


33 posted on 05/18/2013 4:23:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
Scene seen in my favorite episode:


34 posted on 05/18/2013 4:26:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: KC_Lion

Pick a side or be known across teH inTweWebZ as a Space Basset fan...

Personally I’d rather my crossdressing came out in publi....

Nevermind...


35 posted on 05/18/2013 4:28:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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36 posted on 05/18/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Carbonsteel

“4. Star Trek The Next Generation subjected viewers to having to watch Tasha Yar and Wesley Crusher.”

You know, he *does* have a point there... :-)

BTW, I’ll take Nichelle Nichols, Grace Lee Whitney, Michelle Forbes and Jolene Blalock over Carrie Fisher any day!


37 posted on 05/18/2013 4:37:34 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: Mr Rogers

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=3650&ft=mp3


38 posted on 05/18/2013 4:37:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Carbonsteel

Loved Star Wars 4,5,6. But did not care for 1,2,3 too much. Liked Star Trek TOS. Star Trek 2 was the best movie. But did not care as much for TNG. Too much mealy mouth liberal crap and not enough action (though some was good)

So any fight where nerds slap fight like girls against each other between Star Wars TNG and Star wars episodes 1,2,3, will have to do it without me.

I will however square off with clenched fists against those who wish to denigrate Star TREK and Captain Kirk. ; )~ and when I do I will have background music from the gamesters of triskellion. And you can bet dollars to quatloos I will win. ; )~


39 posted on 05/18/2013 4:37:46 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kirkwood

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=3550&ft=mp3


40 posted on 05/18/2013 4:39:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Carbonsteel

The Federation are space Democrats based in San Fran.

Star Wars features rag tag Tea Partiers fighting an elite military like the revolutionary war, so Star Wars>Star Trek


41 posted on 05/18/2013 4:41:05 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Norm Lenhart; GraceG
So Babylon 5 Isn't an Option?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyqRCJKMEkU

Or we could always ask Weyoun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Nasnc4y5Q


42 posted on 05/18/2013 4:41:14 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: DemforBush

And Jeri Ryan


43 posted on 05/18/2013 4:41:36 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Pan_Yan
If Lucas has paid someone ten thousand bucks to write / edit the dialogue he’d have another billion dollars now.

Oh, yeah. For example, there were these gems:

"It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs." What? It's three blocks to the store, but I made it in only one. Right.

"I'm haunted by the kiss you should never have given me." Ker-plunk!

"I don't care what universe you're from, that's got to hurt!" Yes, it does.

“Now that I’m with you again, I’m in agony. My heart is beating, hoping that that kiss will not become a scar.” My head is aching, hoping that clunker will not become a memory.

And my personal favorite, because I'm saving it for when 0bama finally gets frog-marched to a waiting paddy wagon, “At an end your rule is, and not short enough was it."

44 posted on 05/18/2013 4:42:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: DemforBush

Carrie Fisher was not beautiful but she was hot. I will admit Queen Amidala was pretty even if she is an idjit.

The hottest girl in any of the shows was Sherry Jackson the Android.


45 posted on 05/18/2013 4:43:25 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=3630&ft=mp3


46 posted on 05/18/2013 4:45:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Carbonsteel
Two words: Jeffrey Hunter :-)

That said, I was absolutely blown away by the very first Star Wars -- we saw it in the theater and when the spaceships flew "overhead", we thought that was the coolest thing ever -- the special effects ROCKED. Star Wars by a nose.

... sorry, Jeffrey ...

47 posted on 05/18/2013 4:45:51 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: mountainlion

And here I thought ours was the only family in America where Dad refused to get a color TV when they first came out....


48 posted on 05/18/2013 4:47:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: KC_Lion

Now I understand. You have resorted to liberal diversion tactics to try hiding your love of the evil Space Basset! (AKA that whose name must never be spoken)...

No Platinum Chip for you...


49 posted on 05/18/2013 4:47:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Carbonsteel

This is like arguing whether Deputy Dawg is better than Huckleberry Hound.


50 posted on 05/18/2013 4:51:14 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Vera the possum is US.)
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