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Obama's real crime
Vanity | 6/8/2013

Posted on 06/08/2013 8:24:44 AM PDT by Usagi_yo

Obama's real crime is not his citizenship status (He was certified and qualified by the governing entities responsible for doing so, that I must accept until that entity find otherwise).

It is not Benghazi (because he is Commander and Chief of the U.S armed forces and her agents and is entitled to the leeway and lattitude it takes to function as such, I dont' want any President encumbered by anything but public outrage and opinion in regards to CIC duties).

The true scandal and 'high crimes and misdemeanors' lies within his cabinet and political appointees, i.e the IRS, DOJ, EPA, NSA and HHS.

The IRS laser focusing on his opposing and the leaking of that information to the media 3 ring circus.

The DOJ, not enforcing the law against his supporters but abusing the authority of the DOJ to go after his opponents and detractors.

The EPA for strong arming and ignoring court orders and current legislation.

The NSA for illegal wire intercepts and broad based spying on American people.

The HHS for strong arming money and support from entities it is given regulatory oversight over.

At this point, I don't believe there needs to be a direct connection to Obama regarding these 'High crimes and Misdemeanors' in order to start the impeachment process.

I believe it is evident that Obama's whole cabinet has been flagrantly ignoring and violating established law and principles regarding enumerated duties of the executive branch and that even though no direct connection or 'smoking gun' has been made, Obama is responsible for their appointments and encouragement to continue to violate the U.S Constitution, and has not held them responsible and has no intention of holding them responsible.

Obama's intransigence over Congressional oversight is appalling and needs to be dealt with. Indeed, his intransigence over enumerated powers of Congress is an epic overreach of the Executive branch.

Congress needs to set things right and start impeachment proceedings. They need to appoint a prosecutor schooled in the prosecution and scrutiny of RICO organizations.

There is no 'special prosecutor' law right now. Combine that with Obama allowing (and encouraging) 'internal investigations' to investigate their own misdeeds, I believe a strong case can be made to start impeachment.

Impeachment creates a temporary high court with full power and responsibility for investigating the 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors' of Obama's cabinet. During impeachment there is (in my opinion) no 'Executive Priviledge', there is no 5th amendment to hide behind. They can find for impeachment just for him [Obama] trying to stonewall or mislead the impeachment court through direct or indirect action.

Obama and his administration doesn't realize the seriousness of their actions. They need to have a 'coming to Jesus' moment and I think impeachment will bring that moment forward.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; corruption; criminalpresident; democrats; highcrimes; impeach; impeachment; obama; obamamarxist; obamascandals; vanity

1 posted on 06/08/2013 8:24:44 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
his intransigence over enumerated powers of Congress is an epic overreach of the Executive branch.

Absolutely correct. This goes to the heart of the problem. He is, in fact, determined to usurp Congressional lawmaking power with bureaucratic fiat. But only Congress can block this power grab and I'm not seeing much sign of any real resistance.

2 posted on 06/08/2013 8:36:42 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Usagi_yo

So forget about the birth certificate and Benghazi.

Got it.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 8:44:01 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Usagi_yo

Without support within those organizations, impeachment would fail and King Obama would unleash such hell Cuba would look like a better place to live. These hearings will just be a joke and will strengthen the communists when they find out that criminal activity has no punishment.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 8:44:54 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Usagi_yo.
IRS, DOJ, EPA, NSA and HHS
And he'll slowly but surely replace our military hierarchy with dykes and queens, as he's been building a Hitler Youth and buying up billions of rounds of ammo...


5 posted on 06/08/2013 8:51:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Usagi_yo

If you think there will be an impeachment for ANY reason, let alone this flimsy chain of reasoning, you’re in la-la land.


6 posted on 06/08/2013 9:06:30 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Usagi_yo

(He was certified and qualified by the governing entities responsible for doing so, that I must accept until that entity find otherwise).

That is your first mistake. Starting off as gullible.


7 posted on 06/08/2013 9:14:56 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Usagi_yo; Liz
And he'll slowly but surely replace our military hierarchy with dykes and queens, as he's been building a Hitler Youth and buying up billions of rounds of ammo...

My concern is a purge' that will start with a few hundred top generals fired or retired...

Odd how a country this size could be taken over by fewer than a thousand well placed goons... Then again, might be tin-foil hat concerns. We'll know before his four years are up...

8 posted on 06/08/2013 9:15:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: treetopsandroofs
So forget about the birth certificate and Benghazi.

Certainly forget about the Birth Certificate, that's an issue that will go no where and will just help the opposition to trivialize the real crimes and the people investigating them.

As for Benghazi, it's an embarrassment to the administration and showcases the ineptness of the administration and keeps it in the 'Court of Public Opinion'. So I guess for counter propaganda yea, keep it forward. Just don't call it an impeachable or traitorous event because again, it trivializes the real issues.

9 posted on 06/08/2013 9:20:43 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
Get a true accounting of the 6 trillion deficit spent on Obama’s project and there is the crime.

Good luck with that.

10 posted on 06/08/2013 9:34:13 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
Get a true accounting of the 6 trillion deficit spent on Obama’s project and there is the crime.

If he spent more money than what was allocated to him, that falls under intransigence with the enumerated powers of Congress.

11 posted on 06/08/2013 9:38:45 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

Obama is responsible for their appointments and encouragement to continue to violate the U.S Constitution.

Wonder how the Obama voter feels now?.


12 posted on 06/08/2013 9:43:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Usagi_yo

Those are the real issues. The would be trivializer is you.


13 posted on 06/08/2013 9:53:47 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
Those are the real issues. The would be trivializer is you.

Actually, I was being polite, but since you opened up the can of personal attacks .... Trying to push those issues as impeachable offenses links the delusional conspiratorialists or agent provocateurs posing as delusional conspiratorialists to those voicing outcry over the real crimes and therefor, trivializing everything.

14 posted on 06/08/2013 10:01:31 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
As part of the impeachment proceeding the “O’s” birth and social security records should be subpoenaed.
15 posted on 06/08/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: bigbob
If you think there will be an impeachment for ANY reason, let alone this flimsy chain of reasoning, you’re in la-la land.

Probably right as there is a dearth of principled people in office right now. But then what are the political ramifications of impeachment? Will we lose the house in 2014 because of it? Check the migration path of action and look for the unintended consequences of impeachment, failed or otherwise.

16 posted on 06/08/2013 10:07:18 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: wintertime
As part of the impeachment proceeding the “O’s” birth and social security records should be subpoenaed.

Works for me, and indeed is the correct place this should happen, not in a lessor court. Impeachment is a shutout of the judicial branch -- which is proper.

17 posted on 06/08/2013 10:10:02 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

What was going on at Benghazi?

It is practically a certainty that Obama gave the stand-down order.

Why were personnel at the scene, including an Ambassador and SEALs, expendable?

Why was a known false story about a video pushed? This false story was not just a domestic excuse, it was promoted internationally: ads in Pakistan, and speeches at the UN.

If Al Qaeda was not involved there would be no reason to scrub references from reports. Why would references to Al Qaeda need to be scrubbed, why would Al Qaeda’s involvement need to be kept secret?

A reasonable conclusion is that a operation involving Al Qaeda was compromised and had to be concealed.

What was going on at Benghazi?

Obama knows. He needs to be asked and he needs to answer.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 10:22:57 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“So forget about the birth certificate and Benghazi.
“Got it.”

Like it or not, that is how you ‘get’ the criminals. The FBI had to overlook/”forget about” what we consider the major crimes (murder, prostitution, gambling, etc) to get Capone on tax evasion.


19 posted on 06/08/2013 10:31:38 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Bernard Marx

Citizenship status?

Or ID fraud?

And Benghazi is the worst of all.

Why are you trying to minimize Benghazi?


20 posted on 06/08/2013 10:38:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wintertime; Usagi_yo

I think the original poster has his own reasons for wanting Benghazi and the forged documents swept under the rug.

And I don’t think it’s because they are non-issues.


21 posted on 06/08/2013 10:43:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Ray76

Usagi_yo is right although I don’t think the ideas were expressed as well as they could be.

1St, Bengazi is important but it would be almost impossible to call that an impeachable event.

Because lack of judgement, lack of information or inadequate advice from military officers, etc., is not grounds for impeachment and one or all of those would be his plea.

In other words, Bengazi will go down as bad decision making, not treason, even though I personally believe that it was treason.

Yes, Rice lied but nowhere in the paper trail do we find that obumbler wrote her little speech for her.

The IRS thing is a totally different matter and it occurred because of the evil people with which he has surrounded himself.

The EPA. DHS, IRS, State Department and all of the rest need to be cleaned out and that could happen as a result of the NSA and IRS scandal, because it is obvious that the same approach to government and its relationship to the citizen is present in all of those departments.

Once these departments are headed up by decent men/women, the facts of Bengazi will be discovered. Government will become more transparent.

The place to start is to replace the IRS and its ridiculous tax code with a sales tax paid by every purchaser, rich or poor.

When people see what this government is costing them every time they purchase something, they will suddenly take issue with things like spending millions to determine how snails have sex, a NSA building that cost billions equipped at the cost of many more billions and requiring more billions in annual operating costs, all for the purpose of controlling the citizens and how they vote.

Terrorism is the excuse. Controlling elections is the reason.

That is definitely an impeachable offence.

Funded and managed by the IRS.


22 posted on 06/08/2013 10:46:31 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Usagi_yo
This is baloney and political rhetoric. Obama's true crimes are his personal failings, his personal deceit and savage hatred of America and the American people. and his personal evil.

This vanity is the equivalent of a basketball ref calling a foul on the parents of a player who came to see him play.
23 posted on 06/08/2013 10:51:52 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Logical me

Ugazi, Sorry his true crime started with his INELIGIBILITY and has not STOPPED SINCE. He was protected by the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRAUDS infested in the MSM because IT WAS HISTORIC WE ELECTED THE FIRST BLACK MAN PRESIDENT. Said with a lisp. These are not americans but american impostors. Liberalism collapses when the truth about it is exposed, which is what’s happening to this fraud now.


24 posted on 06/08/2013 11:01:26 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Usagi_yo

obama’s ‘crimes’??

Let’s see... if an average Joe, like ME did EXACTLY what this pretender in chief has done in the past 5 years, how many years in prison would I be sentenced to???

Seriously.

And yeah, forget the birth certificate and BENGHAZI??? Are you insane?
Tell that to Chris Stevens’ family...


25 posted on 06/08/2013 11:02:03 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: old curmudgeon
Cross post from another thread:

Forget the coverup and misdirection. What was going on at Benghazi?

If Obama gave an rescue order and it wasn’t obeyed he would be leading the charge to find the breakdown. But he is not.

He either didn’t give a rescue order or the order was to stand-down.

Testimony is that two stand-down orders were issued. If those stand-down orders did not come from Obama he would be leading the charge to find who did. But he is not.

A reasonable conclusion is that Obama gave the stand-down orders.

If Al Qaeda was not involved there would be no reason to scrub references from reports. Why would AL Qaeda involvement need to be kept secret?

A reasonable conclusion is that an operation involving AlQaeda was compromised, stand-down orders were given: personnel at the scene were expendable. A known false story about a video was pushed.

A reasonable conclusion is that a operation involving Al Qaeda had to be concealed.

What was going on in Benghazi? Were arms given to AlQaeda?


A series of increasingly spectacular scandals have appeared.

First the Benghazi scandal was morphed into a coverup scandal.

Then the new scandal of the IRS admitting sua sponte that conservative groups were targeted.

Followed by Obama firing an acting IRS director who was due to step down anyway. Pure theater.

Then the AP story. Then charging a reporter with espionage. And now the NSA spying on citizens.

The diversion has been ongoing.

What was going on at Benghazi?

26 posted on 06/08/2013 11:03:13 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: joethedrummer
No.. Benghazi was at the very LEAST a dereliction of duty by the commander in chief.

He did NOT go to bed at 5pm. And NOBODY will account for his ‘sleeping on the job’ that night.
HE needs to account for this.

At any other job, the person would be fired. For THIS job, it is a crime, especially when deaths of our citizens were the result.

27 posted on 06/08/2013 11:07:04 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: little jeremiah
I think the original poster has his own reasons for wanting Benghazi and the forged documents swept under the rug. And I don’t think it’s because they are non-issues.

I'm like you, the only skin I have in this game is I have a President I don't like making policy I don't like vis-a-vis Benghazi and allegedly forged documents. Maybe I'm just that much more smarter than you in knowing that they are non-issues and maybe I just have a more strategic critical thinking then you in knowing so. Maybe you're an Agent Provocateur who wishes to sully the real issues and crimes that matter and bury them amongst conspiratorial allegations lacking substance.

28 posted on 06/08/2013 11:09:28 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

And maybe you’re just an Obama sycophant offering pathetic excuses.


29 posted on 06/08/2013 11:17:10 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Usagi_yo

“Maybe I’m just that much more smarter than you in knowing that they are non-issues and maybe I just have a more strategic critical thinking then you in knowing so.”

Your own sentence refutes what you attempt to say.


30 posted on 06/08/2013 11:20:56 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Usagi_yo; wintertime

Oh, I’m an agent provoacateur and you’re smater than me.

Pretty funny, coming from you.


31 posted on 06/08/2013 11:21:10 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Usagi_yo; wintertime
Actually the funniest part of your comment is this:

I'm like you, the only skin I have in this game is I have a President I don't like making policy I don't like...

That there is funny!

32 posted on 06/08/2013 11:22:10 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: joethedrummer

I think it’s quite obvious that the forged docs and Benghazi are exactly what Zero and his handlers do NOT want the public/Congress to focus on.


33 posted on 06/08/2013 11:23:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: old curmudgeon

1St, Bengazi is important but it would be almost impossible to call that an impeachable event.

Because lack of judgement, lack of information or inadequate advice from military officers, etc., is not grounds for impeachment and one or all of those would be his plea.

In other words, Bengazi will go down as bad decision making, not treason, even though I personally believe that it was treason.


There is so much more to Benghazi and that is why the administration and assistants want people to shut up about it.


34 posted on 06/08/2013 11:24:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Usagi_yo

“Obama’s real crime”

I do not ‘blame’ him in totality. I blame his parents for having conceived him.


35 posted on 06/08/2013 11:57:01 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Usagi_yo
Get a true accounting of the 6 trillion deficit spent on Obama’s project and there is the crime.

Maybe now we know where all the Stimulus money went.

36 posted on 06/08/2013 12:08:54 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: little jeremiah
Why are you trying to minimize Benghazi?

I'm not. You're mixing apples with oranges.

37 posted on 06/08/2013 12:18:50 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

My comment was meant to be directed to the writer of the vanity.

Apologies -


38 posted on 06/08/2013 12:42:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Usagi_yo
He was certified and qualified by the governing entities responsible for doing so

I did enjoy the article but I must take this opportunity to correct your assertion that a government entity certifies or qualifies the candidates. The government does not.

The Constitution contains two requirements a candidate must meet to run for the office of President and a third to be President. The presidential candidate must be at least 35 years of age and a natural born Citizen of the United States to be eligible.

The candidate’s declaration that he is running for the office of the President is the candidate’s word that he is eligible. The honor system if you will.

No government entity verifies the candidate’s eligibility. That is up to the vetting process and finally up to the voters.

39 posted on 06/08/2013 12:58:51 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Usagi_yo

40 posted on 06/08/2013 1:01:55 PM PDT by South40
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To: little jeremiah

Of course there is, but you are ignoring my point which is that what you know and what you believe does not necessarily mean that it can be sold to a jury.

And that is what impeachment is, as the senate is the jury.

Since the senate is riddled with extreme libs like Harry Reid, Schumer, Durbin, Feinstein etc., the evidence would have to be absolutely incontrovertible.

Mix in bad advice from State, lack of knowledge on the part of his inner circle, attempts at secrecy by some in the CIA (maybe even from obumbler himself), ignorance and lack of backbone on the part of obumbler, and you have a disaster in an impeachment process in a senate controlled by libs.

All of the above would be required to testify in an impeachment based on Bengazi.

That is why the IRS and the NSA things are of more importance AS FAR AS IMPEACHMENT is concerned.

If obumbler, Holder and Napolitano can be impeached, the Bengazi story will be told. Even if obumbler survives the IRS NSA scandal, the others will go and with them gone it is most likely the truth will come out concerning Bengazi and that could then be used against obumbler.

My own opinion is that it is beyond reality to think that obumbler’s henchmen were not bragging out loud to obumbler and everyone else in the inner circle that they were about to get Fox news and the TEA Party. To say that he did not know is to look a fool.

But the bottom line is that a wise man chooses battles he can win. The IRS NSA Fox things can be won.


41 posted on 06/08/2013 6:17:59 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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