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Why does Marco Rubio want to secure the border anyway? (his arguments don’t add up)
SOL of course | 7/3/2013 | sickoflibs

Posted on 07/03/2013 11:27:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs

I have been listening to Rubio’s arguments very closely the past few months, closer than most are.

I learned that Hispanics are social conservatives who oppose both abortion and gay marriage (although the GOP dropped talk about that second subject anyway, too scared of offending young adults), and that this includes the ‘undocumented’ Hispanics.

OK, so if Hispanics are so against Abortion then why do they all seem to flock to Dems and especially Obama?

I learned that is because our anti-immigration (aka anti-amnesty, aka anti-illegal) rhetoric is offending them. So as soon as we support amnesty they will mostly all vote GOP to end abortion, especially with Rubio as our leader.(assuming we don't burden them with voting ID requirements, that offends them too)

My only question is if they are conservatives (so-cons) as Rubio and GOP keeps claiming then why does Rubio keep saying that we need to ‘seal the border’ and ‘stop the flow’ ?? Seems in that case we would want more of them to join us here in the US to get them voting GOP against abortion.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Humor; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegals; immigration; itsfixednow; rhetoric; rhetorical; rubio
Another of life's mysteries.
1 posted on 07/03/2013 11:27:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

It’s not a mystery.

Marco Rubio is a liar.


2 posted on 07/03/2013 11:28:35 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Rubio is a lying racist. Says one thing in one language the opposite in another. He’s a low down good for nothing lying demagogue.


3 posted on 07/03/2013 11:30:24 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: sickoflibs

You can’t secure the border by giving amnesty to tens of millions of illegals. You can only secure it by pressuring illegals to leave.

“Secure the border” is BS, a lie to get Americans to support legalization. If they wanted to secure the border that is the legislation they would pass, not amnesty.


4 posted on 07/03/2013 11:33:32 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: sickoflibs

Citrus lobby


5 posted on 07/03/2013 11:34:54 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; bestintxas; Tennessee Nana; Liz
Here ya go, I decided to preserve this one.

Nailing Rubio on phony transparent rheteric is my favorite

6 posted on 07/03/2013 11:35:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
so if Hispanics are so against Abortion then why do they all seem to flock to Dems and especially Obama?

Five words explains it all:

"Donde es mi muerde gratis!"

7 posted on 07/03/2013 11:43:56 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: sickoflibs
OK, so if Hispanics are so against Abortion then why do they all seem to flock to Dems and especially Obama?

Three reasons: Entitlements, entitlements and entitlements.

8 posted on 07/03/2013 11:46:55 AM PDT by South40
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To: sickoflibs

He doesn’t. He is trying to sell the bill. “Border Security” gives (some) cover to ‘Pubbies otherwise reluctant to risk the wrath of voters.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: sickoflibs

” Nailing Rubio on phony transparent rheteric is my favorite “

You have it down cold.


10 posted on 07/03/2013 11:54:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: sickoflibs

all just soo much hooie.
They just want to keep wages down for the big money interests that put young marco in his position.
Big sugar
big cattle
big citrus
big tourism
big whoop and as for you young marco?
Up yours pal.


11 posted on 07/03/2013 11:57:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: BillyBoy

I put a copy here.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 11:58:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: F15Eagle

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, WHOOHOOO! Rod Roddy, tell him what he's won! :DD

Chicken, Bob!

14 posted on 07/03/2013 12:06:07 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

“Marco Rubio is a liar.”


Sums it up exactly!

Listening to him on Hannity were he must have repeated his dishonest half truth 30 times that no federal dollars will go to food stamps, housing, healthcare, education...

He never mentioned the real truth that under Scamnesty, every state will be on the hook for 100% of the giveaway costs.

I lost a lot of respect for Hannity and his audience as nobody challenged Rubio.

No wonder most politicians come from the lie, er law profession as they are trained from day one to be liars and to excel at distortion.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 1:38:38 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; bestintxas; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; ...
RE :”My only question is if they are conservatives (so-cons) as Rubio and GOP keeps claiming then why does Rubio keep saying that we need to ‘seal the border’ and ‘stop the flow’ ?? Seems in that case we would want more of them to join us here in the US to get them voting GOP against abortion.

The above was a rhetorical question to get my point across but a couple of serious points on the above :

1) Rubio has avoided the explicit argument that we need his Senate bill to get the GOP votes.
Instead he is more lawyer-like saying that Hispanics are conservatives just like us who share our values and will under a Rubio economy will pay lots of taxes and be successful. McCain and Grahamnesty are the ones who keep saying the GOP needs those votes from this bill.

2) The reason why Rubio and the other stick on this border argument and stay away from arguing about legalization and amnesty and taxes/benefits (in any useful detail) is the former about the border is not a person to offend. 'I want to give you all our rights but Obama and that border keeps stopping it'
And he adds a dig at Obama on the border too as candy to us dumb conservatives.

16 posted on 07/03/2013 8:38:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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