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Black Powder vs Smokeless Powder (video only)
YouTube.com ^ | 7-4-2013 | hickok45

Posted on 07/05/2013 7:38:10 PM PDT by servo1969

A basics video to show the difference between black powder and smokeless powder.
Many who hear these terms are likely not clear as to what is meant or have some misconceptions.


TOPICS: Education; History; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Reference; Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; black; colt; guncontrol; powder; propellant; secondamendment; smokeless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yceuluh_pJE




1 posted on 07/05/2013 7:38:10 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Hickok 45, tnoutdoors9, and Sootchoo are my three favorite Youtuber gun guys. The first two are in Tennessee, but they’re in Middle Tennessee and I’m in the East so I’ve never met them. *Don’t tell anyone, but Hickok like Glocks.*


2 posted on 07/05/2013 7:58:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: servo1969
As seen in the YouTube demo, Alliant's "Unique" (used to be Hercules) does have some smoke. I've used that for .45 ACP, and my gun needs to be cleaned up afterwards.

Another Alliant favorite. "Bullseye," is what I use for .38 Special. But I have been told that Accurate's "Solo 1000" is a lot cleaner, and I'm going to try that.

3 posted on 07/05/2013 8:00:19 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: imardmd1

Dont ever put smokeless powder in a an cannon.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 8:11:44 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: servo1969

That was BORING. It might have been better if he didn’t spend 5 minutes explaining that back in the day they didn’t call it black powder.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 8:12:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I watched it last night and found it interesting.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 8:16:24 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: servo1969

Does anyone know what powder Winchester uses in their white box 9mm? Leaves no residue.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 8:18:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: servo1969

The video gives a good explanation. I think that it is also interesting that the “active ingredients” in nearly all “smokeless” powders are nitrocellulose, and/or Nitroglycerin, and/or Nitroguanidine with various “stabilizers” which are basically absorbed into granuals of various shapes and sizes. That is why every time you open a continer of smokeless powder you always almost get the same familiar odor.

The shape and size of the granuals are designed for both burn rate and also ease of metering in some cases. Of course there are volumes of information on both the chemical and physical properties of various smokeless powders. They are produced by various processes.

As he said... it is very important to keep meticulous notes on your recipes when you are doing reloads with smokeless powders. They are designed with som many different burn rates and other characterisitics. There are many powders that take only half as much to get the same velocities out of the same cartridges. It is very fun however to test new recipes using your chronograph and various projectiles. You can spend hours experimenting to find the perfect combination.

I cast my own bullets also and he is right... sometimes times the type lube you use on them can make almost as much smoke as black powder especially if you are casting rifle bullets with lube grooves and gas checks. But it still is not as messy. It is a very fun and interesting hobby.. and saves money.. although sometimes if you figure how much you can put into equipment and supplies... it is along the same lines as how hunting and fishing reduce your food bill in the lower 48.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 8:37:28 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker; TheMom

For the Shooting at humblegunner (and Eaker & TheGirl)! ping.


9 posted on 07/05/2013 8:40:46 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: fireman15

Crisco works for lube,smells like frenchfries!


10 posted on 07/05/2013 9:17:16 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ("don't hurt me , G 'man!")
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To: servo1969

Many black powder shooters going to substitute powders like
Pyrodex because is safer and doesnt have the same
regulations like black powder

Black powder is a Class 1 explosive and has very strict shipping and storage regulations

Pyrodex and other substitutes is Class 3 (same as fire works) and can be shipped and stored without all the
regulatory overhead


11 posted on 07/05/2013 9:44:29 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Husker24
Dont ever put smokeless powder in a an cannon.

ooh, was this one of those "Hey, hold my beer" moments? Pictures?

12 posted on 07/06/2013 1:22:59 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: njslim; All
Pyrodex isn't reliable in flintlocks and drum and nipple type percussion guns.

I have no interest in the inline modern stuff and black powder is harder to find every year.

13 posted on 07/06/2013 4:30:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Usagi_yo

I’ve never done it, but I’ve read stories about people who have packed smokeless powder into a cannon and it caused a detonation. There is a small amount of Nitroglycerin in smokeless powder.


14 posted on 07/06/2013 5:37:15 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Big Red Badger
Crisco works for lube,smells like frenchfries!

I generally use a beeswax, paraffin and grease mixture that I buy already mixed. It is expensive but a little goes a long way and it works good. I “pan lube” with it... I melt the mixture then pour it into a pan with the bullets standing up and then pull them out after the mixture hardens which leaves lube in the grooves. I can see how Crisco would be easier to apply, but my concern would be that the Crisco would melt at fairly low temperatures.

15 posted on 07/06/2013 9:05:06 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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