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6 JAPANESE WARSHIPS BELIEVED SUNK IN FIGHT, 4 DAMAGED; U.S. LOSES CRUISER AND DESTROYER (7/7/43)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 7/7/43 | Tillman Durdin, C.L. Sulzberger, Drew Middleton, Arthur Krock, C.P. Trussell, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 07/07/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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1 posted on 07/07/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Kursk and Vicinity 1943: Battle of Kursk, 4 July-1 August 1943
South Pacific Area Operations: Capture of New Georgia, 21 June-27 August 1943
New Guinea Force Operations: Capture of Salamaua and Lae, 29 June-16 September 1943
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941: Status of Forces and Allied Theater Boundaries, 2 July 1942
India-Burma, 1942: Allied Lines of Communication, 1942-1943
Cartwheel, the Seizure of the Gilberts and Marshalls, and Concurrent Air and Naval Operations, 30 June 1943-26 April 1944
2 posted on 07/07/2013 5:50:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Michael Korda, Ike: An American Hero

3 posted on 07/07/2013 5:51:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Barbara W. Tuchman, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45
4 posted on 07/07/2013 5:52:58 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, Closing the Ring

5 posted on 07/07/2013 5:53:36 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Sea Battle Halts (Durdin) – 2-3
War News Summarized – 3
Chiang Sees Japan Defeated by 1945 – 4
Mrs. Luce Asks End of ‘Insult’ to China – 4
Gain At Belgorod – 5-6
Voronezh is Seen as Nazi Objective (Sulzberger) – 6
7 Italian Isle Bases Raided; 56 Axis Fighters Destroyed (Middleton) – 6-7
Berlin Puts ‘Guilt’ of Air War on RAF – 7
RAF Fighters Bag 8 Nazis in Sweeps – 8
BEW-RFC Peace ‘Urged’ (Krock) – 9
Won’t Investigate BEW-RFC Dispute (Trussell) – 9
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on Fighting in Various Zones – 10-12
The War in the Air-I (Baldwin) – 12
6 posted on 07/07/2013 5:54:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1943/jul1943/f07jul43.htm

Red Army lines nearly broken in the south
Wednesday, July 7, 1943 www.onwar.com

On the Eastern Front... The battle of Kursk continues. Model’s 9th Army forces make only a small advance in the Central Front defenses. In the southern battlefield, the forces of Hoth’s 4th Panzer Army nearly breaks through Voronezh Front defenses around Syrtzevo but Soviet armored counterattacks prevent it.

In New Guinea... Japanese positions at Mubo are bombed. Australian forces capture Observation Hill about one mile from Mubo.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 5:55:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/07.htm

July 7th, 1943 (WEDNESDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: Deputy cabinet secretary Norman Brook, makes shorthand notes of Churchill’s conversations. Today Churchill argues passionately that leading Nazis who fall into British hands should be treated as “outlaws” and shot rather than put on trial.

“I suggested that U.N. to draw up a list of 50 or so [who would] be declared as outlaws by the 33 Nations. (Those not on the list might be induced to rat!) If any of these found by advancing troops, nearest [officer] of brigade rank [should] call a military court to establish identity and [should] then execute [without] higher authority.”. (William Ritchart)

Sloop HMS HART is launched.

Submarine HMS SIDON is laid down.

GERMANY: U-1224 is launched.

U-1275 is laid down.

U-347 and U-475 are commissioned.
USSR: Baltic Fleet and Ladoga Flotilla: MS “N179” (ex-BP “N70”) - due to collision, in Leningrad (later raised)(Sergey Anisimov)(69)

Germans are only able to make a small advance in the northern sector of attack on Kursk. In the south the Germans are close to a breakthrough near Syrtzevo. A Soviet counterattack holds the Germans.

NORTH AFRICA: In preparation for the forthcoming invasion of Sicily, 27 Airpeed Horsa gliders arrive after being towed all the way from England by Halifaxes. (22)

REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA: General Smuts wins a majority of 67 seats in the general election.

INDIAN OCEAN: At 0645, U-198 began shelling the unescorted Leana with 147 rounds from her deck gun about 40 miles southeast of Zavora Point, Portuguese East Africa and sank the ship with a coup de grâce at 0810. Two crewmembers were lost. The master was taken prisoner by the U-boat, landed at Bordeaux on 24 September and was taken to the POW camp Milag Nord. 57 crewmembers, five gunners and one passenger landed after five days at Inchi-Inchi Lighthouse, near Lourenco Marques.

NEW GUINEA: Australian and US troops of the 3rd Australian Division (GOC Maj-Gen Savige) attack Observation Hill overlooking Japanese positions at Mubo, lying on the southern approaches to Salamaua. It possesses an airstrip, which is vital in Papua New Guinea and also sits astride the only track for miles linking the coastal landing site of Nassau Bay with the inland Bulolu Valley.

The Japanese were in strength at Mubo. Deceptive patrols and small attacks prior to the battle by 15 Australian Brigade (militia and commandos) caused Col Araki to denude Mubo of troops, leaving it to be defended only by II/66 Bn.

17th Brigade AIF (2/5 Bn AIF, 2/6 Bn AIF and I/162 US Inf Bn, supported by 1st Aust Mtn Bty and 218 US Fd Arty Bn) launches a double-envelopment against Mubo. Over the next five days the US and Australians conduct numerous small attacks and fighting patrols in close contact with the enemy. (Michael Mitchell)

Fifth Air Force B-24s and B-25s, along with Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) aircraft, operate in direct support of Allied ground operations in the Mubo area of Nassau Bay, dropping over 100 tons of bombs on numerous targets as the MacKechnie Force begins an assault on Bitoi Ridge and Australian forces (2/6 Battalion) capture Observation Hill.

SOLOMON ISLANDS: The Japanese continue to attack Allied shipping off New Georgia Island. Marine F4U Corsairs shoot down 6 of 12 “Betty” bombers and 10 of 60 “Zeke” fighters near Rendova in the afternoon. Thirteenth Air Force B-24s bomb Kahili Airfield on Bougainville while B-25s and P-38s attack Vila Airfield on Kolombangara Island.

ALEUTIAN ISLANDS: A Japanese rescue force of two light cruisers, ten destroyers and a tanker departs Paramushiru Island, Kurile Islands at 1600 hours enroute to Kiska Island, Aleutian Islands to evacuate the troops on Kiska. This force is Phase II of the KE-GO Operation.

U.S.A.: General Henri-Honeré Giraud, Commander in Chief French Army, is in Washington for discussions with various US authorities. (Glenn Steinberg)

The U.S. Army Air Forces Training Command is established to take over the functions formerly assigned to the Technical Training and Flying Training Commands.

Destroyer USS SEA ROVER is commissioned.

Destroyer escort USS FOGG is commissioned.

Frigate USS TACOMA is launched.

Destroyer USS ALLEN M SUMNER is laid down.

Frigates USS ORANGE and PASCO are laid down.

Destroyer escort USS ROBERTS is laid down.

CANADA: AMC HMCS PRINCE ROBERT recommissioned as AA cruiser in Vancouver, British Columbia.

Frigate HMCS THETFORD MINES laid down Quebec City, Quebec.

CARIBBEAN SEA: MS Poelau Roebiah in Convoy TAG-70 was torpedoed and sunk by U-759. Most of the 68 crewmembers, 24 armed guards and 31 US passengers on board abandoned ship in four lifeboats. Two crewmembers were lost. The survivors in three boats were picked up by a USCG cutter and several escort vessels. USS PC-1253 found the whaleboat of the master and brought the occupants to Guantanamo.

ATLANTIC OCEAN: The German submarine U-951 is sunk about 308 nm (570 km) west of Lisbon, Portugal by the crew of a B-24 Liberator of the USAAF’s 1st Antisubmarine Squadron (Heavy) based at Port Lyautey, French Morocco. All 46 crewmen in the U-boat are lost.

At 0607 German submarine U-185 carries out two attacks on convoy BT 18 (Bahia, Brazil, to Trinidad) torpedoing an 8,000-ton U.S. freighter and an 8,000 ton tanker about 153 nm (284 km) east of Fortaleza, Brazil, in the first assault. The freighter, the JAMES ROBERTSON in station #21 is struck by two torpedoes in the #2 and #3 holds. The explosions destroy the engine room bulkhead and blow several hatch covers off, littering the deck with bits of metal, rock ballast and pieces of lifeboats. The holds flood to the tweendecks and he ship buckled at the #3 hatch. She then careens through the columns of the convoy with running engines and the rudder jammed at hard right, making a complete circle. She collides in succession with the American steam merchant ALCOA BANNER in station #32 and moments later with the Brazilian steam merchant GOIAZLOIDE in station #33 at the #1 hatch. A part of the eight officers, 36 crewmen and 25 armed guards (the ship was steaming with one 4in and nine 20mm guns) was ordered to abandon ship in two lifeboats and rafts. One boat swamped during launching and others jumped overboard and swam to the rafts, one of the armed guards drowned. The 21 men on the rafts, the men in one of the boats and five men in the water are picked up by the submarine chaser USS PC-575 and landed in Trinidad on 15 July. The master and 20 men abandoned ship after the collisions in two lifeboats and stood by until morning when they reboarded the vessel to recover personal effects, but the ship later went down by the bow. 24 men, including three survivors from the William Boyce Thompson were picked up by the Brazilian escort vessel CS-55 and landed at Fortaleza on 9 July. The 14 men in one of the remaining two lifeboats landed at Fortaleza on 9 July and the other boat landed at Cascavel, Brazil the same day.

At 0829, U-185 attacked the convoy for the second time and reported hits on a tanker and an ammunition ship that were sinking slowly. The ships hit were SB Hunt and Thomas Sinnickson. The SB Hunt in station #51 was hit by one torpedo on the port side at the bulkhead between the pump room and #4 tank. The explosion opened a hole 45 feet by 35 feet in the side but the tanker was able to continue with the convoy. None of the eight officers, 29 crewmen and eleven armed guards (the ship was armed with one 5in and two .50cal guns) reported injuries. The SB Hunt arrived at Trinidad for temporary repairs and after permanent repairs carried out in Galveston she returned to service on 4 November. (Jack McKillop and Dave Shirlaw)

U-951 sunk NW of Cape St Vincent, in position 37.40N, 15.30W by depth charges from a USAAC 1st ASW Sqn Liberator. 46 dead (all hands lost).


8 posted on 07/07/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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UNITED KINGDOM: Deputy cabinet secretary Norman Brook, makes shorthand notes of Churchill’s conversations. Today Churchill argues passionately that leading Nazis who fall into British hands should be treated as “outlaws” and shot rather than put on trial.

“I suggested that U.N. to draw up a list of 50 or so [who would] be declared as outlaws by the 33 Nations. (Those not on the list might be induced to rat!) If any of these found by advancing troops, nearest [officer] of brigade rank [should] call a military court to establish identity and [should] then execute [without] higher authority.”.

I didn't come across this discussion in Closing the Ring. Maybe Churchill left it out of his memoirs.

9 posted on 07/07/2013 6:07:02 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

U-185 gets its due a month from now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-185


10 posted on 07/07/2013 8:55:13 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Our parents: The Greatest Generation. Their kids and grand kids: The Stupidest.)
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"6 JAPANESE WARSHIPS BELIEVED SUNK IN FIGHT, 4 DAMAGED"...

Actually the Japanese lost two destroyers. Ainsworth got whipped at Kula Gulf.

We still hadn't figured out the capabilities of the Japanese Long Lance torpedo. Next week off Kolombangara Admiral Ainsworth will get another lesson.

11 posted on 07/07/2013 10:49:34 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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Thanks for the input ...

Have you ever read "Neptune's Inferno" ?

A great book on this aspect of the Pacific Campaign ...

where thousand of otherwise brave U.S. Sailors died because of completely inept strategic and tactical leadership ...




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12 posted on 07/07/2013 1:12:59 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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Yes I have read "Neptune's Inferno", as well as Morrison who is a lot more sympathetic.

War is a great amplifier of human folly. All wars start out in a tentative, amateurish fashion. The amazing thing about the naval campaign in the Pacific was how long it took both sides to adapt to what the other side was doing - it took Nimitz over a year, with a lot of help from Admiral Yamamoto and Charles Darwin to get rid of the peace time careerists who just couldn't bring to understand that they were in a war and if they wanted to survive they had to fight. It took longer still for the Navy to figure out that the best use for destroyers was not as sacrificial lambs in the van and on the tale of a nice straight, easily targeted, column of cruisers. The Japanese, and the Germans too, never came to grips with the capabilities of allied technology and ability to use intelligence.

In early August it'll be interesting to see if The NY Times takes note of the fact that the son of the former ambassador to the UK has his PT boat run over by a Japanese destroyer while taking a nap in Blackett Straight.

13 posted on 07/07/2013 1:59:24 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

thanks ...


14 posted on 07/07/2013 2:01:20 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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Neptune’s Inferno is a good book, although it does not discuss the naval battles in the Central Solomons in the 1943. So far I haven’t found any really good books about Kula Gulf, Kolombangara or Empress Augusta Bay. They are the “unknown” naval battles of WW2.


15 posted on 07/07/2013 2:44:03 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Today, Model commits much of his armor and drives a wedge into the Soviet defenses. Soviet Central Front commander K. K. Rokossovsky counters by committing his 2nd Tank Army, which had been held in reserve. However, he commits it piecemeal, and by the end of the day it is not fighting as a coherent organization. Instead, its units are parceled out in support of the units holding the front. Lt. Col. Teliakov’s 107th Tank Brigade is ambushed by the Tigers of 505 Schwere Panzer Abteilung, and the 107th loses 46 of its 50 tanks in a few minutes.

9th Army masses its forces and commences a four day slugfest of concentrated armor, infantry and artillery for possession of the fortified villages of Olkovatka, Somdurovka, Hill 274 and the linchpin of the Soviet defenses, Ponyri Station.


16 posted on 07/07/2013 2:51:48 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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P. 7:

Germans blame air war on cities on Allies....

So, the Germans blame the bombing of civilian centers Warsaw and Rotterdam on the fact that “they made themselves fortresses” {— what else were they supposed to do, under attack?}

and the August bombing of London on an accident?

OK.

Hitler deserves to be shot in the head.

... Oh.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 2:52:19 PM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; colorado tanker; fso301; CougarGA7
David M. Glantz & Jonathan House, The Battle of Kursk, p. 92  photo 9ArmyJul6_zps3c7bc7ec.jpeg
18 posted on 07/07/2013 3:16:50 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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David M. Glantz and Jonathan House, The Battle of Kursk, p. 95  photo AGSudJul6_zps1266213b.jpeg
19 posted on 07/07/2013 3:18:28 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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Nice maps.

I assume on the Soviet side the G means Guards, R = Rifle, D = Division, A (as last character) = Army, C = Corps, M = Motorized, T = Tank, AT = Anti-Tank. Some of the others I'm not sure about. Does "B" mean Battery, or Battalion? Any idea what "TR" represents?

20 posted on 07/07/2013 4:34:47 PM PDT by fso301
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Map Key:

German:
PzC: Panser Corps
AC: Army Corps
ID: Infantry Division
PzD: Panzer Division
PzGrenD: Panzer Grenadier Division (I don’t know why Glantz did not use the more conventional “PzGr”
PzB: Panzer Brigade
PzAbt: Schwere Panzer Abteilung (Heavy Tank Battalion, usually denotes a detachment of Tiger tanks)

Soviet:
RC: Rifle Corps
GRC: Guards Rifle Corps
RD: Rifle Division
GRD: Guards Rifle Division
TC: Tank Corps
GTC: Guards Tank Corps
TB: Tank Brigade
MRB: Motorized Rifle Brigade
MC: Mechanized Corps
GMC: Guards Mechanized Corps
TR: Tank Regiment
CC: Cavalry Corps
GCC: Guards Cavalry Corps
ATB: Anti-tank Brigade (these units were created especially for Kursk and were not typically found afterward).

The Soviet Tank Army was typically composed of two tank corps and one mechanized corps. The tank corps had three tank brigades and one brigade of motorized infantry. The mechanized corps was still in its infancy at this time and did not have a clear TO & E. But it was typically more powerful than a tank corps.

As you can see from the map, in addition to the tank armies, the Soviets also had a plentiful amount so independent tank and mechanized corps. They would typically be attached or made subordinate to an army. For example, 5th Guards Mechanized Corps was not officially part of 5th Guards Tank Army, but fought as an attachment with that army for so long this summer that it was virtually another corps unit of that army. The other tank corps were nominally independent, but starting at the end of 1943, they were more or less recognized as being organic components of their controlling combined arms armies. Most Shock Armies and Guards Armies had organic tank corps.

As you can see from the maps, the Soviets had A LOT of formations at the point of the German attack. This is one of those rare battles where both sides know when and where the battle will take place, and they know the other side is expecting them. Both sides know the other has gone “all in” and put all the stakes on the table.

In this case, the stakes being the bodies of their soldiers.


21 posted on 07/07/2013 6:45:22 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: fso301

Sorry, had a typo:

Glantz uses “PzDet” instead of “PzAbt” for the Tiger tank detachments. Panzer Detachment is a good English translation for “Panzer Abteilung.”

10 Panzer Brigade with XXXXVIII Panzer Corps has most of the Panther tanks committed to Citadelle. There are a couple battalions with 9th Army as well. I believe 9th Army as all of the Ferdinands, but I could not find where they were in one order of battle I was looking at. There are Tiger tanks on both sides of the salient, and there appear to be Tiger tanks in every Panzer Corps, either as detachments or organic to Panzer Divisions.

Also, it is a myth that the SS Panzer Divisions were equipped with Panthers at Kursk. None of them were. Some of the SS Panzer Divisions didn’t get their Panthers until early 1944. At this time, SS Totenkopf is missing a Panzer Battalion, as it is back in Germany fitting out their Panthers. The main German tank is the long barreled PzIV, but there are still a significant number of PzIIIs in service, even in the SS Divisions.


22 posted on 07/07/2013 7:00:31 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: henkster
Thanks for that legend.

TB: Tank Brigade

My brain froze and I couldn't come up with B = Brigade.

TR: Tank Regiment

Frozen brain couldn't link "R" with Regiment either.

Thanks again.

As you can see from the maps, the Soviets had A LOT of formations at the point of the German attack. This is one of those rare battles where both sides know when and where the battle will take place, and they know the other side is expecting them. Both sides know the other has gone “all in” and put all the stakes on the table.

Those maps make your point clear. They are the most detailed I have ever seen. Thanks again.

23 posted on 07/07/2013 7:53:19 PM PDT by fso301
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To: henkster
The main German tank is the long barreled PzIV

That was a good reliable tank which continued in use well after the war. One wonders what might have happened had the Germans used sloped armor on it?

24 posted on 07/07/2013 8:04:44 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

The funny thing is nobody thought to use sloped armor until the T-34. Even the Tiger was a big metal box. But all tank designs up to 1940 lacked sloped armor, and that includes the PzKwIV. It was a serviceable tank only because the Germans knew how to use it, and it had that long 75 that kept the T-34s at bay.


25 posted on 07/07/2013 8:23:32 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: fso301

“Those maps make your point clear. They are the most detailed I have ever seen.”

One of the reasons I like to read Glantz on the Eastern Front is the maps. I was always a map guy; tested off the charts on map reading in a battery of aptitude tests in 8th grade. I used to draw my own maps as a kid.

I’ll try to scan and post more through Prokhorovka; Glantz has one for about every other day of the battle.


26 posted on 07/07/2013 8:32:52 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: henkster
It was a serviceable tank only because the Germans knew how to use it, and it had that long 75 that kept the T-34s at bay.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the Russians would use captured panthers and tigers until they broke down at which point they would abandon them but would actually make repairs to the Pz IVs. I never knew if it was a matter of parts availability, ease of service, or some of both.

I believe the Pz IVs were used by Arab armies in the 6 day war.

27 posted on 07/07/2013 8:36:40 PM PDT by fso301
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To: henkster
Thanks for the detailed maps. I'm learning a lot more about this very important battle than I knew before.

Seeing the level of Russian preparation makes the German hesitation at the highest level understandable. But, as you point out, it is the soldiers who will pay the price.

28 posted on 07/08/2013 11:52:00 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The German propaganda piece on the bombing war is just laugh out loud ridiculous. I wonder how much of Goebbels domestic propaganda was this ham handed.


29 posted on 07/08/2013 11:54:24 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: henkster
Morison's Volume 6 "Breaking the Bismarks Barrier" is about the only thing I've found that covers that period in any detail. It's very much the the naval establishment's view of the campaign but if you've read "Neptune's Inferno" you'll be pretty much able to fill in the blanks.

Mostly during 1943 it's more columns of cruisers with destroyers on either end passing in review of the Japanese formations, until they almost ran out of cruisers. At which point almost in desperation they sent up two divisions of destroyers and met the Japanese destroyer on destroyer at Vella Gulf. They knocked off 3 of the 4 Japanese ships engaged.

The other thing that Morison never mentions is Magic and Ultra, and the fact that Halsey knew what was facing every formation he sent up The Slot. Knowing that makes it even harder to understand why they didn't do a better job of adapting tactics to the various situations.

30 posted on 07/08/2013 4:47:26 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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