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Vanity - Kubrick and The Shining. Questions.
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Posted on 08/09/2013 6:56:54 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

I've come across some youtube videos and some articles about how intricately made was The Shining, that it is filled with a hotel layout which doesn't make sense. And that there are clues within that supports the idea he filmed a fake moon landing. While I don't believe the lunar excursion was faked I'm convinced that Kubrick gave an awful lot of thought and effort in his movies. Are there any books or videos you might recommend about Kubrick?


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KEYWORDS: cinema; film; kubrick; movies; shining; stanleykubrick; theshining
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To: woofie
Owen Gleiberman of Entertainment Weekly gave the movie an "A", writing: "Room 237 makes perfect sense of The Shining because, even more than The Shining itself, it places you right inside the logic of how an insane person thinks."

Hmmm?

61 posted on 08/09/2013 10:00:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Im nuts so I understand it


62 posted on 08/09/2013 10:47:48 PM PDT by woofie
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To: cripplecreek

Oh my that is hilarious! I have NO idea how they made Gene Wilder animated like that. Looks real.


63 posted on 08/09/2013 11:12:35 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: BenLurkin

“Thieves Like Us”


64 posted on 08/10/2013 12:10:29 AM PDT by Misterioso (The neat thing about being a nonvoter is that you don't have to give a damn about all of this.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I don't think Shelly Duvall is ugly. Maybe a bit dorky and in "The Shining", it was her character to play a cringing doormat of a housewife and she did that well.

The basic idea of the book/movie always fascinated me. I often wonder what it would be like to spend the winter in an isolated large hotel all by myself. Imagine being there on some chilly November day as the first flakes of snow fall, knowing that soon there will be 10 feet of snow on the ground and you won't see another person until March or April. That appeals to me.

Even though the story was set in Colorado, I believe the idea for the hotel came from the Mt. Washington hotel up in New Hampshire.


65 posted on 08/10/2013 7:15:37 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: InvisibleChurch
From my own bookshelf next to my computer, HAL, I can recommend Kubrick by Michael Herr, Kubrick: Inside a Film Maker's Maze by Thomas Allen Nelson, Stanley Kubrick, Director: A Visual Analysis by Alexander Walker, Sybil Taylor, and Ulrich Ruchti (a useful but somewhat flawed book) and The Making of Kubrick's 2001 edited by Jerome Agel.
66 posted on 08/10/2013 7:33:57 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Rocko

Thank you very much. I’m grateful.


67 posted on 08/10/2013 7:35:10 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Amazing what a little editing can do. That was a hoot.


68 posted on 08/10/2013 8:19:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Squawk 8888

I’m glad Sellers wasn’t able to do Sterling Hayden’s role. Just wouldn’t have been the same.


69 posted on 08/10/2013 8:21:10 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m watching Willie Wonka as I type this. It’s on ABC Family.


70 posted on 08/10/2013 9:31:52 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: InvisibleChurch

There’s a new Shining based documentary that explores different interpretations of the film (and the filmmakers don’t even necessarily believe all of them).

I missed it when it played locally. It’ll probably be out on video before long.


71 posted on 08/10/2013 9:36:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: massmike; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; Daffynition; JoeProBono
A thread about Shining Conspiracy Theories???


72 posted on 08/10/2013 9:39:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The doc on the DVD was interesting. I guess the big problem on set was Shelley Duvall, Jack was awesome according to everyone as far as I recall.

Love the movie, not a fan of Steve King books.

Freegards


73 posted on 08/10/2013 9:43:25 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: a fool in paradise

74 posted on 08/10/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: a fool in paradise

thank you


75 posted on 08/10/2013 12:36:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_237

Kind of an interesting movie. Some of them are whacky, some are interesting.

then there’s this:
https://www.facebook.com/TheShiningForwardsAndBackwards?ref=stream

And outside of The Shining:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick:_A_Life_in_Pictures


76 posted on 08/10/2013 12:42:08 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: RobertClark
I have always wondered why Kubrick chose to kill Jack using ice rather than the fire that King chose in the novel. Why? It seemed to me that King’s inferno from the boiler explosion was a permanent end. Was Kubrick’s freezing scene merely to represent a potential ‘preservation’, like freezing a roast? I could spend hours talking about Kubrick and the Shining and Eyes Wide Shut in particular.

I read the book and saw the movie, and liked them both. ( I'm not even sure which I did first! ) I can appreciate the changes that Kubrick made. I thought the boiler explosion, and the ending in general of the book, were kind of hokey. The strength of the book was the "unreliable narrator". That is, he was rotten to the core, but didn't think this of himself. This was shown in the wasp nest incident. The movie came closeset to this idea when his son asks him if he would ever hurt him or his mother. He says, "Why would you think that?" but never denies that he would.

I liked Kubrick's treatment of the "ghosts" as more or less hallucinations. Particularly the bar scenes, which grow in scope. Also, the key scene where he "joins up" and is let out of the food locker. That was perfect. A transition from the ethereal to the concrete with just a sound.

I thought Kubrick inserted a "bridge" to the book in the climactic scene where Shelley Duvall is running around the hotel and encountering the various apparitions. One of them was a guy in a mouse suit kneeling before a man sitting on a bed, and they both turn and look at her.

I thought this was an allusion to the description in the book of the gay guy at the party in a dog suit who was getting more and more forward as he became intoxicated.

77 posted on 08/10/2013 4:56:14 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
For some reason the movie never scared me. But the book did.

The fire hose unwinding itself and following Danny. Creepy.

78 posted on 08/10/2013 7:41:17 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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