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Healthcare Act will fail OR we will have revolution
Thought | 24 October 2013 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 10/24/2013 9:53:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Simple statement: The Healthcare Act is going to fail from sheer incompetence of implementation OR we're going to have revolution if they get it working and force it on the American people. Once people see how much it is REALLY going to cost, you will not be able to make them accept it. More than likely it will fail and Congress will wisely repeal it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: cwii; healthcareact; obamacare; revolution
The thesis has been presented. Essays please.
1 posted on 10/24/2013 9:53:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I just want it to die already


2 posted on 10/24/2013 9:55:07 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I hate making either/or choices, so can I have both?


3 posted on 10/24/2013 9:57:06 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“One if by land, two if by fee!”


4 posted on 10/24/2013 9:58:40 AM PDT by februus
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Unfortunately there are too many people with careers invested in it. Do you think Pelosi (Have to pass it to find out what's in it) would vote for repeal? Do you think Harry Reid would even allow a repeal bill to come to the Senate floor? Do you think Obama would sign repeal legislation? It will fail, but getting rid of it won't be easy.
5 posted on 10/24/2013 10:00:04 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I heard this recently, and it makes perfect sense. It likely will not fail to a finality. Congress seems to attempt a stream of “fixes” on legislation that continues the debacle in perpetuity.


6 posted on 10/24/2013 10:01:05 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hospitals, Doctors, Radiologists and other Specialists even Pharmacists and Assistants will all go out of business. Six to eight month wait for insurance payments? Can’t work. There aren’t enough rich people to fill the beds or pay for services. Who the hell can afford the deductibles? My Rehab Center is very worried. That little payment is at the bottom of the barrel already with insurance policies. Everyone at my Orthopedic Center looks very worried. This whole thing will kill 1/6 of our economy!


7 posted on 10/24/2013 10:01:32 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Viennacon; SkyPilot; onyx; nutmeg; Lumper20; kristinn; 2ndDivisionVet; FlingWingFlyer; flat; ...

HUGE FYI to share with everyone. Privacy Alert

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/24/Hidden-In-ObamaCare-Applicants-Give-Up-Right-To-Privacy


8 posted on 10/24/2013 10:01:35 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just look at all the $|-|:+ the government has forced on the American people over the past 20-30 years, if we haven’t risen by up, we aren’t likely to ever.


9 posted on 10/24/2013 10:02:06 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Single payer is the goal.

The 49% who adore their leader will not blame him for the problems (Limbaugh theory); they actually believe he knew little about the problems it would pose.

BUT, if that’s the case, how come Benghazi Barry knew enough to hand out waivers from this debacle to all his minions MONTHS ago?

Barry merely awaits the calls from his idiot base to “save” them from an awful situation.

2nd only to the media, the Barry-Idiot-Base is America’s worst enemy.


10 posted on 10/24/2013 10:03:14 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Oh that is just plain silly. I thought we would have had a revolution in 2009 when Obamacare was jammed down our throats on Christmas eve at midnight after buying Bart Stopid and his Blue Dogs. Americans are never going to shut off their sports and porn and take to the streets, never ever. Those of us who want to are definitely in the minority - the election of 2012 proved it. In normal times Zero would never have won re-election, with how many millions having departed the work force, notwithstanding what Zero claims is the unemployment RATE.
11 posted on 10/24/2013 10:03:28 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Not just careers....do you think Soros wants to see his 0Scare investment (aka Dim payoffs) fail?


12 posted on 10/24/2013 10:05:30 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
More than likely it will fail and Congress will wisely repeal it.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN WHILE THERE IS A DEMOCRAT IN THE WH OR 51 IN THE SENATE..........

13 posted on 10/24/2013 10:12:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (The only way to defeat liberalism is to give them everything they want......then pick up the pieces.)
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To: Cheerio
I thought we would have had a revolution in 2009 when Obamacare was jammed down our throats on Christmas eve....

Wait until folks realize what is really in this bill. I believe the attitude will change. Can't blame it on Republicans any more. They fought intensely to try and defund it and stop it, and failed. The Democrats OWN this one.

14 posted on 10/24/2013 10:15:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Revolution box checked. It is not just Obamacare, the Fed. Gov. is to darn big. Only revolution will diminish it.


15 posted on 10/24/2013 10:24:52 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

There won’t be a revolution.

Best case, is that the electorate upon seeing the cost, will throw the democratic party out of the senate and white house.

Worst case, is that they will get on the phones and complain, and the democrats will work with RINOs to somehow fix it or reduce the pain.

Worst Worst case is that the democrats will reduce the pain by dramatically increasing subsidies, worsening our country’s financial situation.


16 posted on 10/24/2013 10:37:42 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JoeFromSidney
Unfortunately there are too many people with careers invested in it.
Do you think Pelosi (Have to pass it to find out what's in it) would vote for repeal?
Do you think Harry Reid would even allow a repeal bill to come to the Senate floor?
Do you think Obama would sign repeal legislation?
It will fail, but getting rid of it won't be easy.

It will fail, but getting rid of it won't be easy. Quite true, especially the more employees in auditing,enforcement, etc.
Do you think Obama would sign repeal legislation? Who cares ? I think the people will let their voice be heard, or take to the streets.
Do you think Harry Reid would even allow a repeal bill to come to the Senate floor? He will especially if his fellow Dems are in jeopardy . The best way to defeat this Obmination is to have people UNDERSTAND what is in it, and how it impacts their families; we have already seen the effect on employers and industry !

17 posted on 10/24/2013 10:38:56 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Below is a little known reality:

Shoppers applying for private health coverage through the marketplace have to pay their first monthly premium before they are fully enrolled. Their first payment must be made by Dec. 15 for coverage to take effect Jan. 1.

This payment could probably destroy Christmas in two waves:

It could destroy Black Friday which has evolved in Black Thursday to Black Friday to Black Weekend and the week after. Many of our female relatives buy most if not all of their Christmas purchases during the Black Friday/Week. A few of them have been told not to plan on it until they know the monthly costs of ObozoScare and the new deductibles.

A big Dec 15 th check to pay for ObozoScam Care, may kill the regular Christmas time shoppers like yours truly and 99% of our male relatives and friends.

Now most of us who will have to pay more haven't the foggiest what our $increases/month will be. Of course another big negative Zinger in the wood pile, what will our yearly deductibles be in 2014 with our increased monthly premiums for Obozoscare/scam for everyone in our families.

Hopefully, the CEO's of any company depending on Black Friday/week sales and normal Christmas time sales will start leaning on the rats in Congress to do something.

Time to cue our graphic art people to start showing the Obozo, Reid and Pelosi Grinches stealing Christmas via their Obozocare/scare bs.

18 posted on 10/24/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( "With Obamascare you can die for your country without leaving home.")
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To: DannyTN
Worst case, is that they will get on the phones and complain, and the democrats will work with RINOs to somehow fix it or reduce the pain.

Worst case is that they'll "reduce the pain" by heaping some more debt on our grandchildren.

19 posted on 10/24/2013 10:40:55 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Truer words have never been written.

Then you add how Democrats want your guns and have been retiring good military leaders and putting in new ones.

Marshall law could happen if the people riot over this or later over the eventual austerity.


20 posted on 10/24/2013 10:43:00 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SgtHooper
It likely will not fail to a finality. Congress seems to attempt a stream of “fixes” on legislation that continues the debacle in perpetuity.

Yes. It will morph into a Medicare-style program.

To avoid revolution, soon the premiums will be made somewhat lower than the current offerings.

The insurance companies' involvement will be eliminated, making it Single-Payer.

Then, like Medicare, special taxes will be withheld from your paycheck to pay the premiums.

Just like Medicare, the "low" premium prices will be made up by draining the Treasury's general fund, effectively subsidizing everyone's coverage.

And the program will lose money as long as it lasts.

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21 posted on 10/24/2013 11:01:13 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten kid.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Democrats OWN this one.

I agree, but they will NOT own it and will lie and spin their way out of the fiasco and still use the compliant Admin media to blame Repubs - have already heard selected congresscritters blaming the shutdown for the web site debacle.
22 posted on 10/24/2013 11:02:33 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

nope on the revolution. dims will just call for more spending.

they’re already doing it now to “fix the website.”

americans have become to fat and lazy to fight.


23 posted on 10/24/2013 11:43:30 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: repentant_pundit

Great minds think alike!! :-)


24 posted on 10/24/2013 6:58:44 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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