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If the rumours about Gore Vidal are true, what does this mean for his work?
Guardian ^ | November 15, 2013 | Mark Lawson

Posted on 11/25/2013 3:01:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Aside from being an essayist, novelist and screenwriter, Gore Vidal was a grade-one gossip, his published writings and private conversation stuffed with rumour and conspiratorial hints. But now, less than 18 months after Vidal passed into history, he is himself subject to the most reputation-destructive scuttlebutt there is: the suggestion that he may have been a paedophile.

In connection with a new book about Vidal, his half-sister and a nephew have hinted that he may have had a secret passion for underage boys. And Vidal more or less admitted it himself, writing in his memoir Palimpsest that he was "attracted to adolescent males".

Given this context, an incident in 1977 will also now bring literary cops running. Martin Amis, interviewing Vidal for the Observer, was required to give him copy approval, and was asked to change Amis's description of "homosexual" to "pansexual". Vidal was prissily fastidious about the meaning of words and his suggested substitution can be taken as a confession that nothing and no one was erotically off-limits.

A sexual dirt file allegedly kept by one of Vidal's many enemies, the late conservative thinker William Buckley, is said to have been thrown away after Buckley's death, and so definitive proof will be tricky. It also seems odd that no one claiming to be a victim has come forward, especially as Vidal left an estate of $37m (£23m) – a possible source of ire from his relatives, as he bequeathed the lot to Harvard University, where he had never studied, rather than them....

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TOPICS: Books/Literature
KEYWORDS: buckley; celebrateperversity; coverup; cultureofcorrupion; gore; gorevidal; hollyweird; lavendermafia; manboylove; pederast; pedophiles; pedophilia; sexpositiveagenda
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1 posted on 11/25/2013 3:01:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Color me Un-Shocked


2 posted on 11/25/2013 3:02:38 PM PST by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It means it was was just the work of another pedophile.


3 posted on 11/25/2013 3:03:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It means his “work” is still crap only the crap was written by a pedophile.


4 posted on 11/25/2013 3:04:10 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I really do not care what Gore Vidal’s inclinations were so long as he kept them to himself. We all have our crosses to bear and I know better than to judge people on their demons. It’s their actions that I am concerned about. And I pray if this is true that Gore Vidal did not victimize any young men.


5 posted on 11/25/2013 3:07:50 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Really???

Prepare to see him on the Nobel shortlist for Literature.


6 posted on 11/25/2013 3:08:21 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Grownup nerds like Gore Vidal, and even he’s kissed more boys than I ever will.” — Lisa Simpson


7 posted on 11/25/2013 3:09:15 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

means he is still the same POS he was before the report


8 posted on 11/25/2013 3:09:44 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to be overly technical, but attraction to adolescent or underage males does not necessarily or even probably equate to pedophilia.

Pedophilia has a technical meaning, which is attraction to prepubescent children, male or female.

Generally speaking, an adolescent has already passed through puberty, so the term would not technically apply. The term wanted is ephebophilia, which means attraction to adolescents, post-pubescent but not yet fully adult.

I have no problem with strong laws punishing sex with those who are underage, but I do think it is important not to blur the distinction between a six year old and a sixteen year old. Sex with either is morally wrong and may be illegal, but A is a LOT worse than B.


9 posted on 11/25/2013 3:12:14 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And they’re shocked about this? It’s pretty much ‘par for the course’ with that element.


10 posted on 11/25/2013 3:12:26 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: MeganC

It’s pointed out that apparently no victims ever came forward. He might have kept himself to porn and imaginations. It’s a sad age when Gore Vidal is pointed to as a paragon of virtue.


11 posted on 11/25/2013 3:13:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His memory should get the Joe Paterno treatment.


12 posted on 11/25/2013 3:14:52 PM PST by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“But now, less than 18 months after Vidal passed into history, he is himself subject to the most reputation-destructive scuttlebutt there is: the suggestion that he may have been a paedophile.”

Hmmm. What would give them that idea?

“And Vidal more or less admitted it himself, writing in his memoir Palimpsest that he was “attracted to adolescent males”.

Damn fine reporting work going on here. Damn fine.


13 posted on 11/25/2013 3:15:36 PM PST by FAA
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To: Lonely Bull

“Girls, Lisa- Boys kiss girls”- Marge Simpson


14 posted on 11/25/2013 3:15:53 PM PST by richmwill
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To: Regulator

Me too, totally would not be shocked


15 posted on 11/25/2013 3:16:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Miss the caliber of debates with WFB and Vidal.


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16 posted on 11/25/2013 3:17:05 PM PST by Daffynition (*$17,000,000,000,000* Fear the beards! GO SOX!)
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To: GeronL

Not suprise

I don’t think he like Greta Garbo

I saw TCM docuemtary he call her Butch no good actress


17 posted on 11/25/2013 3:17:46 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: FAA

With the exception of the last few decades, the norm for homosexual behavior around the world and throughout history has been between an adolescent male and an older man.

In ancient Greece and most other places, once a boy hit full adulthood continued sexual relations with him was considered perverted and/or weird. Same is true today in Afghanistan and many other places that never heard of PC.


18 posted on 11/25/2013 3:20:53 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It definitely takes away from being able to enjoy his work.

He wrote some very good historical novels that were in no way perverted, i.e., no perverted sex and no explicit sex of any kind.

It was a series of American historical novels loosely following the ficitonal descendants of Aaron Burr. I read "1898," which was set from the Spanish-American war to WW1, and "Hollywood," of the 1920s. He interwove real historical figures into the stories, like Warren Harding, Woodrow Wilson, William Randolph Hearst, Henry Adams, etc.

They are very interesting books and, like I said, in no way salacious.

But it's hard to enjoy them now knowing something like this about the author.

19 posted on 11/25/2013 3:21:01 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was never worth reading in the first place. One of those guys who are praised by liberals reviewers and academics, who never wrote a single book worth looking at.

As for whether he was a pedophile, he’s no longer around to hurt anyone, thankfully.


20 posted on 11/25/2013 3:21:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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