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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 50 DECEMBER 13, 2013
Free Republic | 12/13/2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/13/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

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Good afternoon to all. Hope you are all doing well, and have a bit of sunshine in your area. Grey Skies are here again. We're drinking lots of tea again.

Temperatures are heading down again. Sleet and Snow are on the way again. Please tell me where Globull Warming is again, because our little chill is here again.

Johnny says his is not a normal day. Well I didn't have a normal week. School was closed all week. My grand daughter is a tween, and now suffering from cabin fever, as the snain has been falling for quite some time today.

I am filling up my report with weather, because gardeining is almost totally at a stand still here on the One Acre Ranch deep in the heart of the little chill.

Coming up for Lupper (Late Lunch/Early Supper) is Hash Brown Mix. That's hash browns cooked in fat with all sorts of leftovers-like onions, peppers, ham-anything you need to use up.LOL

My gardening report is simple and dull. I have watered plants, turned grow lights on and off. Inspected the plants, they'll need a bath this weekend. The big excitement was 2 fooled you jalepenos that I picked and added to the pickled pepper jar.

I am hoping for some reports from somewhere of moderate temps, and gardening activites - any pictures of food or flowers would be welcome. If any one is desperately seeking gardening activities for the winter, you might want to check out www.wintersown.org.

They have a method that can get you started very early, and also sometimes some free seeds and small quantities cheap to try out something new. I do not know their religion, politics, or anything else about them, but their method will help you use up those milk jugs you might have been putting off disposing of in the cold weather.

Marcella has posted a good report on the containers on last week's thread. Thanks Marcella. They should hire you for marketing. Thanks to your post, I am now planning on buying 2 sets instead of one.LOL

Have a great weekend everyone. God Bless

1 posted on 12/13/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Time to start my tomatoes indoors.
It was sub zero the last week in Vegas, going out now to see what died. Maybe my grapefruit tree. I think I saved my Meyers lemon.


2 posted on 12/13/2013 12:29:17 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 12:30:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

big burning question is why one of my newly planted indoors Amarylis is about a foot taller than the other two.....:)....I wanted to have them all flowering the same time, for effect...


4 posted on 12/13/2013 12:33:52 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: greeneyes

The stubborn little tobacco plant, repotted. Who would have thought I'd be growing tobacco in December?

Things are back to normal, and I'm back home. Love the grandkids, but I can only handle so much of them.

/johnny

5 posted on 12/13/2013 12:37:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DaxtonBrown
I have a dwarf lemon tree that is full of little green sesame seed sized fruit. It's indoors for the winter. I'll be picking off a bunch as the tree couldn't possibly handle all of them.

I had been thinking that I might try growing some sort of dwarf orange. The news was reporting on the infestation that is endangering the orange crop in Florida. I love oranges and grapefruit, but Missouri climate is not conducive to citrus growth.

6 posted on 12/13/2013 12:37:19 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I got nuthin’. Chickens are well, but no eggs now. That’s all the excitement from round here.


7 posted on 12/13/2013 12:39:20 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: cherry

Genetics? Slightly different nutrient, sun, water conditions. I truly do not know, but I have noticed that my plants don’t mature all at the same time indoors or outdoors.


8 posted on 12/13/2013 12:39:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I sometimes really really look forward to weekends. LOL


9 posted on 12/13/2013 12:40:32 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
We have snow on the ground, although not much. I was cleaning a group planting that sits on our kitchen table, and mistakenly pulled a small fern with roots attached and one viable leaf. I cleaned it up and planted it in a small pot. It's only about six inches tall.

That's the only gardening I've done since October. :)

10 posted on 12/13/2013 12:40:43 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Nice picture. Thanks for posting. After all the white around here, it’s nice to see some green.LOL


11 posted on 12/13/2013 12:41:26 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It looks very healthy.


12 posted on 12/13/2013 12:41:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ladysforest

Do you have a rooster?


13 posted on 12/13/2013 12:42:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
There are still large patches of white on the ground here. It's 48F though and only going to get down to 41F tonight. Rain just started, so the ice should be gone soon.

Sunday we're supposed to get sunshine, so maybe I can look at my garden and see how the onions fared under the ice pack.

/johnny

14 posted on 12/13/2013 12:46:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Got a couple of seed catalogs in the mail. I’ll be browsing through them as soon as cookie baking season and the Christmas holiday is over. The week between Christmas and New Years is when I start thinking of what to plant next spring.


15 posted on 12/13/2013 12:46:30 PM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: Ladysforest

Yeah .. amen to the no eggs ...14 layers, eating like pigs, giving up 2 or 3 a day ... maybe.


16 posted on 12/13/2013 12:46:56 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We are supposed to get a little more of the little chill. Bummer!


17 posted on 12/13/2013 12:47:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham
It seems to be happy indoors. The ones I grow outside do better under shade, so I opened up a few hundred square feet for 2014 in a shady spot.

My concern is the ones I grow outside get to be about 5 ft tall, and the leaves grow to 2 ft long. That's a lot of space in my little shotgun shack for this one little rebel.

/johnny

18 posted on 12/13/2013 12:48:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
No moderate temps to report here in central Wisconsin as we've been hovering between ten below and ten above for a while now with no end in sight. We love winter and enjoy some understated festive lighting as the following photo will demonstrate.

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But I feel the need to caution our friends in Florida and California about the dangers of decorating palm trees...be careful out there.

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19 posted on 12/13/2013 12:51:28 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: knarf
A friend of mine uses artificial lights to get her hens to lay in winter.

/johnny

20 posted on 12/13/2013 12:52:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gorush
LOL!!!

/johnny

21 posted on 12/13/2013 12:53:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If you liked that one you may also enjoy this:

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22 posted on 12/13/2013 12:56:15 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
I showed that one to my grandsons without explanation. I expect they will be avoiding certain cookies this year.

I'm a bad grandpa. :)

/johnny

23 posted on 12/13/2013 1:00:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sneakers

We have been getting some too. One of my favorites is from Baker’s Creek which we got this week, and I am restraining myself in order to make headway on Christmas Chores, and Late Fall/Early Spring cleaning. LOL


24 posted on 12/13/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All
Survived the ice storm last Sunday ..... not as bad as we thought:

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Tarp held up on my little garden :-)

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Some pics of the ice .... it was rather pretty.
25 posted on 12/13/2013 1:11:17 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: greeneyes

It’s only one month till I start my seeds. I am excited because I have new heirloom mater seeds to grow. We will only be growing one hybrid this year. Big Boy maters are so good they we will keep growing them. I am reducing the count of seeds that I start since I cannot find anybody to give the excess seedlings to; 280 plants are just too many. One tray of seedlings will still be too many to plant but will let me choose the strongest of each variety to plant.


26 posted on 12/13/2013 1:21:36 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I have mine timed 20 hrs a day ... doesn't make no difference ... it's winter and they're on strike ...

too young to eat them ... yet .... but another year and a half ....

27 posted on 12/13/2013 1:39:29 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: gorush

Thanks for the photos. They are very cheery even if they aren’t food. LOL Stay safe and stay warm. I gotta say that I admire the people who have the fortitude to live in our Northern Midwest States!


28 posted on 12/13/2013 1:45:15 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Nice pictures. Pretty good lookin landscape. So tell us again, what’s under the tarp?


29 posted on 12/13/2013 1:46:55 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Gorgeous pictures; thanks!


30 posted on 12/13/2013 1:47:48 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: gorush

-lol- Gotta send this one to my sons... they’ll get a kick out of it for sure...


31 posted on 12/13/2013 1:48:19 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: rightly_dividing

Me too! I have so many seeds left from last year’s purchase that sprouting just a few from each package would exceed all the space I have. Gonna have to do better with the selection process from now on.LOL


32 posted on 12/13/2013 1:49:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

It’s not fortitude...we just hate termites. It also provides more opportunities for hermit types.


33 posted on 12/13/2013 1:50:15 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

LOL. Fortitude, termitude, or hermatude. I knew it was one of those tudes.LOL


34 posted on 12/13/2013 1:56:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing
I went across the street to Walgreens before the rain really starts and it was a fine sprinkle at that time. It is 51 in my garden now at 4 pm. It's supposed to rain the rest of the day and night.

I'll have to plant the three Ouachita blackberry plants tomorrow in the containers I have for them. I'll go to that website again and get their instructions as they are not in the box. These blackberry “sticks” are about two feet long, each with a root bundle. I got these from Greenwood Nursery on line. I got Ouachita because those grow best in Texas according to my research.

I'll start pepper seeds under the grow lamp in a week. I've got a number of varieties (sort of got carried away by those “bred” for containers) and only one of the regular peppers is hot. I've also got those Fooled You Jalapenos but they don't have heat.

So, I have things to do. rightly, aren't you going to start seeds soon or am I the only one?

35 posted on 12/13/2013 1:58:40 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

Under the tarp: collard greens, chinese kale & a beet plant or two. The collards have been doing the best, chinese kale sort of ok and I think only two beets came up & are not growing. I planted about 1.5 - 2 months late, but I just couldn’t stand bare dirt after I cleaned the garden out. The ground is now frozen here so I’m thinking the plants won’t make it ... but we’ll see. Gives me something to mess around with outside. Recently, it was decided that a 10 year old pile of yard debris should be moved and instead of hiring somebody else using a “Bobcat”, I’m the one who will be doing the digging. I’m hoping to find some good compost near the bottom - plan to expand the garden for next year with at least one, perhaps two 6 x 6 plots. Come on Spring!! :-)


36 posted on 12/13/2013 1:59:22 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Marcella
51 degrees sounds like heaven right about now. Snain continues to fall, and the computer room is drafty due to no afternoon sun. In fact no sun all day.

Isn't it amazing what a little sunshine does for the attitude? All I want to do today is huddle up and drink tea by the heater and let my fingers do the exercising. LOL

37 posted on 12/13/2013 2:04:05 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

I’m getting ready to start the cole crops myself. Probably in the next couple of weeks to set out mid Feb & cover with tarp if it gets below the mid 20’s after that.

I’ll probably start peppers/tomatoes sometime in late January/early Feb.

My saffron crocuses all have little poofies of green at the tops of their stemmy bits right now.


38 posted on 12/13/2013 2:06:20 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a big plant. Do they require much attention?


39 posted on 12/13/2013 2:08:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Water. Space. Other than that, I just let 'em grow.

I'll have to re-pot my rebel at least one more time, because the root balls of the ones I grow in the garden are at least gallon sized, if not larger.

Good thing they don't mind being transplanted repeatedly.

/johnny

40 posted on 12/13/2013 2:11:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Where do you dry them?


41 posted on 12/13/2013 2:12:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Black Agnes

“I’ll probably start peppers/tomatoes sometime in late January/early Feb.”

You know this will be the first “spring” planning I have done. I’ve made a sheet telling me when to start seeds of what and I think I remember the peas, of which I have three varieties, have to be started very early, too, like next week. I’ll need to study that paper as I haven’t looked at it in the few weeks since I made it. Too many veggies on there to remember each one without that paper.


42 posted on 12/13/2013 2:15:07 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: MissMagnolia

With lots of cover and mulch those veggies can survive a lot. It will be interesting to see. There’ a book somewhere around, but I can’t recall the name exactly about 4 season gardening in one of the New England states.

One of the methods involves using a “hot bed”. Basically you use manure/compost pile, put some boards on top, and set the potted plants on the boards, then cover it all up.

The heat produced by the compost helps keep the pots warm enough to continue growing as they drink in the winter sun too.


43 posted on 12/13/2013 2:15:36 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham
LOL!

In the house. I have parachute cord high up on the walls streched across rooms, and when I harvest, it's almost difficult to walk through with all the leaves hanging down.

I only get away with that because I'm a single guy.

I did do some experiments with sun drying some on the chain link fence this fall, but I'm still not sure about that.

/johnny

44 posted on 12/13/2013 2:17:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
You will be starting stuff weeks to a month before I do.

/johnny

45 posted on 12/13/2013 2:19:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
Too many veggies on there to remember each one without that paper.

I use my garden calendar to write down when I plan to plant everything and other garden tasks and then note on the calendar when I do it. That way I can see everything that has to be done for the month. I also use the notebook, so I've got planting dates, &ct... in two places.

This is the time of year to organize all that.

I need to get a 2014 calendar, now that I think on it.

/johnny

46 posted on 12/13/2013 2:22:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; gorush

That picture made me laugh. Naturally grand daughter wanted to see what was so funny. She said, I’ll never eat another cookie.

I think I’ll hold her to it.LOL


47 posted on 12/13/2013 2:23:29 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I need to get a 2014 calendar, now that I think on it.”

I did that - went to a place on the web to print each month of the calendar - there is enough space on each day to write what I did. I printed this December, too, since that is when I’m starting some seeds.


48 posted on 12/13/2013 2:26:31 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

At least you remember where the paper is. I made one and misplaced it before I got it filed. Still hoping to run across it as the cleaning project continues.


49 posted on 12/13/2013 2:27:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

This was my first seed order in about 5 yrs. We still have plenty in our freezer from the past. This place I bought from really worked out great, lots more seeds in the packet then were supposed to be.

Excuse me please if I dont make any sense today, I am on cold meds on top of my regular stuff. 2X whammy. I went to the Sick Peoples Convention(dr office) the other day and picked up what they had. I really shouldn’t be behind a keyboard in this condition.


50 posted on 12/13/2013 2:31:25 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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