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Are you a Free Republic Newbie? Then shut your pie hole!

Posted on 12/14/2013 10:33:19 AM PST by The Bat Ladys Husband

First of all, let me say that I have been a lurker on FR since 2000. My wife (The Bat Lady) has been registered and a poster since the same time. I generally use FR as a news source and in years past as an info source for FR organized protests/demonstrations. I don’t generally comment on articles because I mostly agree and don’t need to preach to the choir. However one article fired me up and I finally register in August 2013.

That being said, I recently commented on an article regarding Steve Stockman running against John Cornyn. Knowing a lot about Texas politics I said Stockman was not a viable candidate. OMG! You would have thought I said I pissed on Reagan’s grave. I was called a troll, a Cornyn plant, a GOP-e (if my friends had heard that they would be laughing their asses off.) With all the name-calling I had to look to see if I was on FR or DU. Conservatives pride themselves on the quality of their debate versus liberal knee-jerk name-calling. I guess some here on FR can’t raise themselves above that level.

Sticks and Stones! But more disturbing to me is the rise what I like to call the FR-e. Those are the posters that think that because they have been on FR for a long time that they are some kind of royalty and that newcomer’ comments and insights have no validity if they do not parrot their particular perception. I was called a noob “prattling"

(prat·tle talk idly or childishly: to talk in a silly, idle, or childish way silly, idle, or childish talk)

Just because someone has recently discovered FR or recently joined after lurking they prattle? Oops, my bad, I guess they don’t prattle if they agree with the pompous long-term freeper. Maybe we could cut back on the fundraisers if we encouraged new members rather than drive them off or turned them off with vitriolic discourse and vicious name-calling

(vit·ri·ol·ic adjective - filled with the intention or desire to do evil.)

If you haven’t looked at the Home page (click Free republic at the top left of the browse page) I invite you to look again: Jim Robinson states: “Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support...”

Jim is trying to attract people to FR. How does denigrating a new reader attract them to FR? Being a victim of a verbal knock-out game by a supercilious FR-e certainly does not encourage a "newbie" to participate or even hang around

(su·per·cil·i·ous adjective 1. behaving or looking as though one thinks one is superior to others.)

Certainly all long time members don’t fit this category but those who do know who you are (or maybe you don’t) and so do we.


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Let’s make reasoned debate our standard as mature conservatives
1 posted on 12/14/2013 10:33:19 AM PST by The Bat Ladys Husband
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

Oh yeah, this is gonna go well.

LOL


2 posted on 12/14/2013 10:34:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

Remember to (Vanity) so I can skip it.


3 posted on 12/14/2013 10:35:34 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

The validity of an argument is not dependent on the duration of a poster’s freepership. Or indeed anything else about the poster.

Refute an argument if you can, but what you are describing in the inverse of the fallacy of Appeal to Authority.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 10:36:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: cripplecreek

Shut your pie hole!


5 posted on 12/14/2013 10:36:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

OK—I’m all ears.

Why is Stockman not viable?

Seriously, I would like to know, as I am in DE, so TX politics are foreign to me.


6 posted on 12/14/2013 10:36:42 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Those are the posters that think that because they have been on FR for a long time that they are some kind of royalty

Sounds like happy hour started early at the Bat Lady house...........

7 posted on 12/14/2013 10:36:46 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

IB-IBTZ. You can figure that one out for yourself.

Since you’ve lurked here for thirteen years, surely you know that defending your position against Stockman as a viable candidate is preferable to posting a vanity taking on all comers?

Good luck to you. I have the feeling you’ll need it.


8 posted on 12/14/2013 10:36:47 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

How about growing a thicker skin?

What is more unreasonable, someone disagreeing with your opinion or calling for all of FR to change because you can’t handle that?


9 posted on 12/14/2013 10:37:09 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

I care not how long you’ve lurked.


10 posted on 12/14/2013 10:37:25 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Every election cycle, new posters show up to slam conservative candidates, and to sow uncertainty and doubt with their lies and half truths.

Every election cycle.

I'll be voting for Stockman in the primary, btw.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/14/2013 10:37:41 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Newbs are not picked on because they are newbs. I don't pass over a name, attempting to learn the sign up, unless some little reaction happens on my BS meter that makes me suspect that the FR in question is a plant from liberal blog hood.

Many times the ones I suspect the strongest have early signup dates. I'm paranoid enough to suspect that they've gotten access to an abandoned persona or somehow managed to changed the signup date.

It's nothing that can be proven. So answer the challenge when you meet it, if you're on the level.

12 posted on 12/14/2013 10:38:11 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

The heat comes with the kitchen —


13 posted on 12/14/2013 10:39:07 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 1rudeboy

pastraMI !


14 posted on 12/14/2013 10:39:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: cripplecreek; The Bat Lady

I’m never non-controversial


15 posted on 12/14/2013 10:39:25 AM PST by The Bat Ladys Husband (With malice towards none, with charity for all)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

So if I disagree with someone who has been on here longer than me, I am not allowed to say anything, and shut my “pie hole”. BTW, I been here only since 2007 or 2008.


16 posted on 12/14/2013 10:39:57 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

Shut up! Noob!


17 posted on 12/14/2013 10:40:21 AM PST by Spruce
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

You are correct that many a smarmy CReeper think they know all simply because of sign up dates. Stick with it you’ll be ok!


18 posted on 12/14/2013 10:41:14 AM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: knarf
It's snowing across a decent portion of the United States, so I'd like to add this photo of Ingrid Bergman to our discussion.


19 posted on 12/14/2013 10:42:18 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: castlegreyskull
You've only been here since 9/25/2009.

/johnny

20 posted on 12/14/2013 10:42:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

Agreed. As throughout the internet, there’s a contingent in FR that vents a lot of venom and hatred (personal problems guised behind political rants). These are those who forget what we and America stand for: ardent vigilance but respect for the dignity of the individual; a free society but also a well-mannered society. This is what our founders lived and died for.


21 posted on 12/14/2013 10:42:46 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: 1rudeboy

Damn noobs


22 posted on 12/14/2013 10:42:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

From a quick glance, I agree. Stockman sounds like a great conservative but not a viable candidate. One does not make the other and vice versa.

Not that the situation can’t change, but as of right now Stockman’s got alot of work to do.


23 posted on 12/14/2013 10:43:37 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
I [for one] am always glad to see newcomers joining the mix. Being compulsive in many ways, I can't understand how lurkers resist getting involved.

Isn't it great to see the rise in monthly donors?

24 posted on 12/14/2013 10:43:46 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

25 posted on 12/14/2013 10:43:47 AM PST by Veggie Todd (I don't always talk to Obama voters, but when I do I ask for Large Fries.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

IB4TZ.


26 posted on 12/14/2013 10:44:26 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

No fun until you try posting during election cycles — against candidate A or B or C or D.

The ‘incoming’ can be massive and you need a thick skin and asbestos underware.

==

But, that is part of the ‘culture of the Internet.’ You either accept it and continue or not.


27 posted on 12/14/2013 10:44:49 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Drango

I lurked since 1773, but only registered in 1998.


28 posted on 12/14/2013 10:46:23 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Slacker! ;-)


29 posted on 12/14/2013 10:47:11 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

30 posted on 12/14/2013 10:48:01 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

You need a thick skin to post on just about any net forum, especially a political/religious forum. Anonymity gives people a bravado that causes them to say things they would not say in a face to face meeting. My rule for posting is, if you would not say it to the person’s face, don’t say it on a forum either. We will all be accountable someday for everything we think, say or do, including posts on net forums. I would say just try to roll with the punches.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 10:48:04 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Every election cycle, new posters show up to slam conservative candidates, and to sow uncertainty and doubt with their lies and half truths.

There are quite a few who have been here a long time but only post to promote RINOism around elections.

My opinions on RINOs is unchanged. They're nothing but lying manipulative bottom feeding scum who would rather hand a race to the democrats than let a conservative have power.

The GOP has been moderated into a coma and these kapo republicans are pinching the feeding tube as their true democrat masters goose step to full on fascism outside the door.
32 posted on 12/14/2013 10:48:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

Welcome to primary season! :-]


33 posted on 12/14/2013 10:48:50 AM PST by Nickname
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

34 posted on 12/14/2013 10:49:14 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

You said — “That being said, I recently commented on an article regarding Steve Stockman running against John Cornyn. Knowing a lot about Texas politics I said Stockman was not a viable candidate. OMG! You would have thought I said I pissed on Reagan’s grave. I was called a troll, a Cornyn plant, a GOP-e (if my friends had heard that they would be laughing their asses off.) With all the name-calling I had to look to see if I was on FR or DU. Conservatives pride themselves on the quality of their debate versus liberal knee-jerk name-calling. I guess some here on FR can’t raise themselves above that level.”

WELL ... all I can say is that it’s TYPICAL for a certain number of posters on Free Republic. I’ve seen it many times here. You’ll get to know their names and find out that they don’t have much else to say.


35 posted on 12/14/2013 10:50:23 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

How about we find someone other than Cornyn and Stockman? Why is Stockman a bad choice? I don’t know that he is a bad choice. Cornyn has been is the Senate for 12 years. It’s time for him to go elsewhere before he he becomes more corrupt than 12 years in the Senate will get you. TERM LIMITS are key you idiots!


36 posted on 12/14/2013 10:50:45 AM PST by BreezyDog
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To: JRandomFreeper

Okay, thanks. I am not trying to pump up my “seniority” in here, the year go by fast, sometimes it is hard to remember.


37 posted on 12/14/2013 10:50:51 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Sherman Logan

That is exactly what I am saying, but an fr-e thinks the validity is dependent.


38 posted on 12/14/2013 10:51:01 AM PST by The Bat Ladys Husband (With malice towards none, with charity for all)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

39 posted on 12/14/2013 10:51:03 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: 1rudeboy

What a treat, thanks! And I’m only 48...


40 posted on 12/14/2013 10:51:33 AM PST by BreezyDog
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

I don’t know whether Steve Stockman is a good candidate or not. I do know that he, along with others, is challenging sitting Senator Cornyn in the primary coming up in March.

On Republican congressional primary races where a RINO (or near-RINO) is being challenged in a “red” state/district where there will be a runoff if nobody gets 50% in the primary, I try to encourage folks (and candidates) to focus on attacking the RINO. Do positive messaging to point out why one challenger is better or best, but don’t attack other challengers since EACH challenger can serve to take votes away from the RINO in the primary and help keep him below 50%.

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize—a truly conservative Republican majority caucus in the Senate and in the House with truly conservative leaders. The 2014 election cycle offers ample opportunity to advance toward and/or achieve this goal. Let’s not form circular firing squads with conservatives firing at one another.


41 posted on 12/14/2013 10:52:40 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: cripplecreek
but only post to promote RINOism around elections.

Yep. The 'vote for the lesser of two evils' crowd. I despise them.

/johnny

42 posted on 12/14/2013 10:52:51 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

"...ut oh..sumbody burnt a bearing"

43 posted on 12/14/2013 10:52:57 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Those are the posters that think that because they have been on FR for a long time that they are some kind of royalty

That's because we are. Now sit down and shut yer pie hole.

Seriously, welcome to FR and I suggest you get your flame suit on. If you think you take flack as a newbie here, you've not seen some of these youngin's (GOP-E's and Neocon's) on here come after us old timers.

FR can be a raucous place. Best to have thick skin, ignore the jerks and move on.

FR like any other chat board on the internet has its own share of (shall we say) a**holes. You can find a few of them complaining about the Personal Blogs section of FR calling others "blog pimps" for example.

44 posted on 12/14/2013 10:53:11 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I’ve been here a pretty long time, and a couple of months ago I was attacked by a ‘N@@b’. I think that’s the only time I ever said see how long I’ve been here and STFU.


45 posted on 12/14/2013 10:53:12 AM PST by real saxophonist (The revolution will not be televised. Everything else will.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Sometimes, a thick skin is needed in these here parts
46 posted on 12/14/2013 10:53:29 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

You are correct in your assessment. I see it all the time.

I don’t know enough about the newcomer to the Texas primary to make a judgement yet. But I like reading all sides. I don’t want us to make a mistake like we did in Missouri, Nevada, etc....HOWEVER, I have the UTMOST trust in the people of Texas. Looking forward to 2014. I want to win!


47 posted on 12/14/2013 10:53:35 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree entirely. Braying on about ‘’newbies’’ or how long one has been posting here makes said person sound like some immature elementary school yard bully.


48 posted on 12/14/2013 10:54:08 AM PST by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: castlegreyskull
Just yanking your chain. Heck, you fell off 'watch closely' list months ago. ;)

/johnny

49 posted on 12/14/2013 10:54:09 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mount Athos
I'll probably vote for Stockman but I agree with him about FReepers who make a big deal about newbies...

especially when they've only been here 10 or 12 years! :)

50 posted on 12/14/2013 10:54:18 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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