Skip to comments.Are you a Free Republic Newbie? Then shut your pie hole!
Posted on 12/14/2013 10:33:19 AM PST by The Bat Ladys Husband
First of all, let me say that I have been a lurker on FR since 2000. My wife (The Bat Lady) has been registered and a poster since the same time. I generally use FR as a news source and in years past as an info source for FR organized protests/demonstrations. I dont generally comment on articles because I mostly agree and dont need to preach to the choir. However one article fired me up and I finally register in August 2013.
That being said, I recently commented on an article regarding Steve Stockman running against John Cornyn. Knowing a lot about Texas politics I said Stockman was not a viable candidate. OMG! You would have thought I said I pissed on Reagans grave. I was called a troll, a Cornyn plant, a GOP-e (if my friends had heard that they would be laughing their asses off.) With all the name-calling I had to look to see if I was on FR or DU. Conservatives pride themselves on the quality of their debate versus liberal knee-jerk name-calling. I guess some here on FR cant raise themselves above that level.
Sticks and Stones! But more disturbing to me is the rise what I like to call the FR-e. Those are the posters that think that because they have been on FR for a long time that they are some kind of royalty and that newcomer comments and insights have no validity if they do not parrot their particular perception. I was called a noob prattling"
(prat·tle talk idly or childishly: to talk in a silly, idle, or childish way silly, idle, or childish talk)
Just because someone has recently discovered FR or recently joined after lurking they prattle? Oops, my bad, I guess they dont prattle if they agree with the pompous long-term freeper. Maybe we could cut back on the fundraisers if we encouraged new members rather than drive them off or turned them off with vitriolic discourse and vicious name-calling
(vit·ri·ol·ic adjective - filled with the intention or desire to do evil.)
If you havent looked at the Home page (click Free republic at the top left of the browse page) I invite you to look again: Jim Robinson states: Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support...
Jim is trying to attract people to FR. How does denigrating a new reader attract them to FR? Being a victim of a verbal knock-out game by a supercilious FR-e certainly does not encourage a "newbie" to participate or even hang around
(su·per·cil·i·ous adjective 1. behaving or looking as though one thinks one is superior to others.)
Certainly all long time members dont fit this category but those who do know who you are (or maybe you dont) and so do we.
Oh yeah, this is gonna go well.
Remember to (Vanity) so I can skip it.
The validity of an argument is not dependent on the duration of a poster’s freepership. Or indeed anything else about the poster.
Refute an argument if you can, but what you are describing in the inverse of the fallacy of Appeal to Authority.
Shut your pie hole!
OK—I’m all ears.
Why is Stockman not viable?
Seriously, I would like to know, as I am in DE, so TX politics are foreign to me.
Sounds like happy hour started early at the Bat Lady house...........
IB-IBTZ. You can figure that one out for yourself.
Since you’ve lurked here for thirteen years, surely you know that defending your position against Stockman as a viable candidate is preferable to posting a vanity taking on all comers?
Good luck to you. I have the feeling you’ll need it.
How about growing a thicker skin?
What is more unreasonable, someone disagreeing with your opinion or calling for all of FR to change because you can’t handle that?
I care not how long you’ve lurked.
Every election cycle.
I'll be voting for Stockman in the primary, btw.
Many times the ones I suspect the strongest have early signup dates. I'm paranoid enough to suspect that they've gotten access to an abandoned persona or somehow managed to changed the signup date.
It's nothing that can be proven. So answer the challenge when you meet it, if you're on the level.
The heat comes with the kitchen —
I’m never non-controversial
So if I disagree with someone who has been on here longer than me, I am not allowed to say anything, and shut my “pie hole”. BTW, I been here only since 2007 or 2008.
Shut up! Noob!
You are correct that many a smarmy CReeper think they know all simply because of sign up dates. Stick with it you’ll be ok!
Agreed. As throughout the internet, there’s a contingent in FR that vents a lot of venom and hatred (personal problems guised behind political rants). These are those who forget what we and America stand for: ardent vigilance but respect for the dignity of the individual; a free society but also a well-mannered society. This is what our founders lived and died for.
From a quick glance, I agree. Stockman sounds like a great conservative but not a viable candidate. One does not make the other and vice versa.
Not that the situation can’t change, but as of right now Stockman’s got alot of work to do.
Isn't it great to see the rise in monthly donors?
No fun until you try posting during election cycles — against candidate A or B or C or D.
The ‘incoming’ can be massive and you need a thick skin and asbestos underware.
But, that is part of the ‘culture of the Internet.’ You either accept it and continue or not.
I lurked since 1773, but only registered in 1998.
You need a thick skin to post on just about any net forum, especially a political/religious forum. Anonymity gives people a bravado that causes them to say things they would not say in a face to face meeting. My rule for posting is, if you would not say it to the person’s face, don’t say it on a forum either. We will all be accountable someday for everything we think, say or do, including posts on net forums. I would say just try to roll with the punches.
Welcome to primary season! :-]
You said — “That being said, I recently commented on an article regarding Steve Stockman running against John Cornyn. Knowing a lot about Texas politics I said Stockman was not a viable candidate. OMG! You would have thought I said I pissed on Reagans grave. I was called a troll, a Cornyn plant, a GOP-e (if my friends had heard that they would be laughing their asses off.) With all the name-calling I had to look to see if I was on FR or DU. Conservatives pride themselves on the quality of their debate versus liberal knee-jerk name-calling. I guess some here on FR cant raise themselves above that level.”
WELL ... all I can say is that it’s TYPICAL for a certain number of posters on Free Republic. I’ve seen it many times here. You’ll get to know their names and find out that they don’t have much else to say.
How about we find someone other than Cornyn and Stockman? Why is Stockman a bad choice? I don’t know that he is a bad choice. Cornyn has been is the Senate for 12 years. It’s time for him to go elsewhere before he he becomes more corrupt than 12 years in the Senate will get you. TERM LIMITS are key you idiots!
Okay, thanks. I am not trying to pump up my “seniority” in here, the year go by fast, sometimes it is hard to remember.
That is exactly what I am saying, but an fr-e thinks the validity is dependent.
What a treat, thanks! And I’m only 48...
I don’t know whether Steve Stockman is a good candidate or not. I do know that he, along with others, is challenging sitting Senator Cornyn in the primary coming up in March.
On Republican congressional primary races where a RINO (or near-RINO) is being challenged in a “red” state/district where there will be a runoff if nobody gets 50% in the primary, I try to encourage folks (and candidates) to focus on attacking the RINO. Do positive messaging to point out why one challenger is better or best, but don’t attack other challengers since EACH challenger can serve to take votes away from the RINO in the primary and help keep him below 50%.
Let’s keep our eyes on the prize—a truly conservative Republican majority caucus in the Senate and in the House with truly conservative leaders. The 2014 election cycle offers ample opportunity to advance toward and/or achieve this goal. Let’s not form circular firing squads with conservatives firing at one another.
Yep. The 'vote for the lesser of two evils' crowd. I despise them.
"...ut oh..sumbody burnt a bearing"
That's because we are. Now sit down and shut yer pie hole.
Seriously, welcome to FR and I suggest you get your flame suit on. If you think you take flack as a newbie here, you've not seen some of these youngin's (GOP-E's and Neocon's) on here come after us old timers.
FR can be a raucous place. Best to have thick skin, ignore the jerks and move on.
FR like any other chat board on the internet has its own share of (shall we say) a**holes. You can find a few of them complaining about the Personal Blogs section of FR calling others "blog pimps" for example.
I’ve been here a pretty long time, and a couple of months ago I was attacked by a ‘N@@b’. I think that’s the only time I ever said see how long I’ve been here and STFU.
You are correct in your assessment. I see it all the time.
I don’t know enough about the newcomer to the Texas primary to make a judgement yet. But I like reading all sides. I don’t want us to make a mistake like we did in Missouri, Nevada, etc....HOWEVER, I have the UTMOST trust in the people of Texas. Looking forward to 2014. I want to win!
I agree entirely. Braying on about ‘’newbies’’ or how long one has been posting here makes said person sound like some immature elementary school yard bully.
especially when they've only been here 10 or 12 years! :)