Hubble Looks but Finds No Trace of Comet ISON

universetoday.com ^ | December 20, 2013 | Bob King on

[BenLurkin]

On December 18, the Hubble Space Telescope slewed to Comet ISON’s expected position and found nothing down to the incredibly faint magnitude of 25. According to astronomer Hal Weaver, who planned the ISON search, that limit implies any remaining fragments would have to be smaller than about 500 feet (160 meters) in diameter.

[Darksheare]

"I understand three dimensions."

Apparently not.
ISON is not at all heading towards us.
The images showing the swing around the sun showed it following the orbit expected of it and not heading off somewhere else.
BPEarthwatch's claim that Mercury would somehow magically drag ISON into us is BS.
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/Animations/Inner_2011.gif
IF the BS described by BPEarthwatch were somehow real, anything on that plot heading past Mercury would be magically altered from orbit.
They are not.
Because that is not possible.
And might I remind you of his initial claims:Comet ison large debris moving fast
ALL of that is BS.
Mercury isn't going to drag ISON into us, the moon isn't going to drag ISON into us.
AND when looking at the inner solar system from near the plane of the ecliptic, items that are half an orbit away appear to be near each other.
Hey, let's play tricks with cameras!
Just like BPEarthwatch, A.K.A. MrCometWatch who did this same BS with Elenin!

[Darksheare]

Two weeks ago he said this on the video you initially linked in your thread: “ Ison is a V shaped debris field with objects that are miles wide each..at least 21 large ones.. they are moving at 2 million miles per day. Ison is moving away from Secchi A at that speed which makes it appear smaller from that camera each hour.. THE ROCKS ARE DARK NOW. They will become darker as they move further from the sun over Earth..They will not become smaller.”

Let’s examine that statement: Makes it appear smaller”?
Uh, then explain how it appeared the same on the way in at the same distance.
And the hubble saw nothing which means anything there is must be smaller than 500 foot, not “Miles and miles wide”* -said in stoned voice.
And there aren’t 21 pieces.
I like how he, once again, places an image stolen from something else and uses it to ‘prove’ his point.
Take something, use an unfamiliar image of it, claim it is something else entirely.
That is what BPEarthwatch does.

[Yosemitest]

I disagree.

[Darksheare]

Okay, explain then how everything HERE isn't being magically drawn into us the same way ISON is supposedly being magically drawn into us.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

[Yosemitest]

You’re assuming that Hubble knew WHERE to look.

[Darksheare]

LD = Lunar Distance

On December 18, 2013 there were 1446 potentially hazardous asteroids.
Recent & Upcoming Earth-asteroid encounters:
Asteroid Date(UT)Miss DistanceSize
2013 XY8 Dec 11 2 LD 50 m
2013 XS21 Dec 11 0.2 LD 6 m
2013 XT21 Dec 11 1.1 LD 15 m
2013 XU21 Dec 14 6.1 LD 26 m
2013 XH22 Dec 18 1.9 LD 27 m
2011 YD29 Dec 28 6.1 LD 24 m
2007 SJ Jan 21 18.9 LD 1.9 km
2012 BX34 Jan 28 9.6 LD 13 m
2006 DP14 Feb 10 6.2 LD 730 m
2000 EM26 Feb 18 8.8 LD 195 m
2000 EE14 Mar 6 64.6 LD 1.8 km

All of those asteroids, and ISON is what we’re supposed to be afraid of?

[Darksheare]

“You’re assuming that Hubble knew WHERE to look.”

Orbital mechanics tells you where to look.
ISON is NOT being magically pulled into us.
If it were, then so would much of these:
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/Animations/Inner_2011.gif

[Darksheare]

http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm
http://physics.info/orbital-mechanics-1/

[Rebelbase]

Alas, poor Ison; I knew him, Horatio.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

[Darksheare]

http://www.naic.edu/~gibson/thesis/true_w2bjir_9_zoom.jpg
Pleaides.
BPEarthwatch uses a green filtered image of that in his video “Comet ISON debris moving fast”.
Again, your source is a liar.

[Yosemitest]

In time, we shall see ...

[Darksheare]

http://www.naic.edu/~gibson/thesis/true_w2bjir_9_zoom.jpg
When one uses an image and claims it is something else entirely to create fear and panic, he is a liar of the worst sort.
Defending a liar is the same as telling the lie yourself.

[Yosemitest]

Thanks for this link.
When I have more time, I'll take a closer read of it.

[Darksheare]

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/keps/kepmodel.html
http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/gravity/KeplerianOrbit.html
http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/gravity/KeplerianOrbitSim.html

[Yosemitest]

"Defending a liar is the same as telling the lie yourself."

Not necessarily.
But researching something to prove or disprove it for yourself, is something else entirely.

[Darksheare]

http://www.naic.edu/~gibson/thesis/true_w2bjir_9_zoom.jpg
Shrink that image down to about twenty percent and then compare it with “BPEarthwatch” image in the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3W72XRFeqyQ#t=45

[Darksheare]

And LYING flat out about what something is does not make one believable.
BPEarthwatch flat out LIED.
Defending the liar after it is shown he is lying makes one just as much a liar.

[GeronL]

I just started watching another one of those subtitled Korean shows that is trying to use comet Ison as part of the plot, kind of. heh