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Posted on 01/03/2014 9:36:24 PM PST by Kevmo
U.S. Department of Energy Invites Submission of LENR Proposals
ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY ENERGY (ARPA-E) U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY OPEN INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT IN ENERGY-RELATED APPLIED SCIENCE (OPEN IDEAS) Announcement Type: Initial Announcement Funding Opportunity No. DE-FOA-0001002 CFDA Number 81.135
PREFACE This Funding Opportunity Announcement (FOA) is intended to provide rapid support to revolutionary applied energy research (Studies) that may lead to new ARPA-E programs to develop transformational and disruptive energy technologies. Studies are defined as single-phase efforts of durations less than 12 months and cost less than $500,000. Awards will be issued through Grants....
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I think you do! I just encountered the same basic argument on another thread and another subject but you put it so much better. And you weren’t serious.
It’s almost like the word LENR is in the headline, or anywhere at all, in your linked DOE document.
re: Do I get the best non sequitur precognition award?
I vote for your award based solely upon the notion that if it were real, private enterprise (huh?) would jump on it and invest in / exploit it for the benefit of all. Perhaps ‘mysterious forces’ are drying up capital, how to mitigate government interference and the desire to take risks for appropriate ROI for bringing good to the world for all.
No, we’ll have to study it forever not expecting any progress or benefits for anyone or anything since the grant money is good and never runs out. Looks good on the resume too.
Returning to my oar position.
Actual reference says “low-energy
nuclear reactions” on page 7, Figure 3, item 3.6.
No, well have to study it forever not expecting any progress or benefits for anyone or anything since the grant money is good and never runs out. Looks good on the resume too.
Asked & answered
I stand corrected.
There is nothing "mysterious" about the "forces" at work. The "handles of power" in the energy business (i.e. DOE and similar funding agencies) are occupied largely by physics types. They don't want to see their buddies in the "hot fusion" research biz to lose their funding.
Here is a very concrete example. Peter Hagelstein had arranged for a SMALL ($60K) grant from a potential industrial partner. Said industrial partner got a call from a prominent physicist who proceeded to harangue the management about how "fraudulent" LENR is. The funding was withdrawn.
The most recent Secretary of Energy (Steve Chu) has left government to work for a carbon trading business interest.
I write and review these things (in a different area of engineering) so after a very quick review I noticed a few interesting things.
Three disappointing areas off the top are that:
One, they won't even review the concept papers until September of this year so who knows how long before they ask for the follow up paper, review that and announce and release funding and is there going to be follow up funding? Since I've only glanced at the RFP, I don't know if they've addressed future funding and how it's determined such as success in the process they outline in their response to the RFP or are they friends of the agency? That is not a joke, people like to think there is a rigorous process for these things but sometimes the person reviewing the proposal knows the person that submitted it. It's a sad state of affairs but it exists.
They do say this:
ARPA-E is issuing this FOA as a one-year pilot initiative. If successful, this or a similar FOA will be issued annually.
Two, since they've already spent around 3/4 of Billion on projects since 2009 I wish they would promise more than $500k for each project even though it appears to be for the first stage. Companies don't want to bid if they don't expect to make money and this requires companies to spend 5% of their own funds. Granted, the results could be world changing so I need to find who ends up with the rights to the technology.
Three is that they only plan on spending a total of $10 million for this phase, that's only 20 projects if they all get the max. When you get down to it, $500k is not a lot of money if they are starting from scratch but it will help if they are already doing the research and already have scientists on the payroll.
When I get some time, I'll try to find out who owns what rights. Section F: appears to address this but it only has links to other sites.
These are interesting:
The Advanced Research Projects Agency:
Originally chartered in 2007, the Agency was first funded through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Since that time, the Agency has funded about 285 projects totaling approximately $770 million across the entire technology landscape.3
I wonder how much was for standard fusion?
More items of interest:
E. AREAS SPECIFICALLY NOT OF INTEREST
Concept Paper Applicants will not be invited to submit Full Applications if their Concept Papers:
1. Do not address an ARPA-E Mission Area (see Section I.A);
2. Do not address one of the FOAs Areas of Interest (see Section I.D);
3. Are not based on sound scientific principles (e.g., violates a law of thermodynamics);
4. Propose basic research aimed at discovery and fundamental knowledge generation;
5. Propose demonstration projects of existing technologies;
6. Propose incremental improvements to existing technologies;
7. Propose a concept without the potential to be disruptive in nature, as described in Section I.A;
This is nice to see but it appears as if they are only putting their toe in the water. I wonder how much universities like MIT and Cal Poly get a year for standard fusion and they'll probably whine about this that makes it appear that anyone could research this and not just the hallowed halls of MIT and Cal Poly? I have a lot of respect for both universities but they've deliberately tried to crush funding of what was then called, cold fusion.
Private companies like Blacklightpower have already spent 60 million on their research and I have no idea how much Rossi, Defkalion, Mitsubishi and others have spent on alternative energy research and by alternative I'm not talking about some mystical power source but things that have already produced promising results like standard fusion, fission, LENR/LANR and the Blacklightpower process. I'm not talking about things like Steorm or Joseph Newman's so called energy machine.
It is a start.
Given that the "hot fusion" boys have actively sought (and succeeded) in preventing even grants from BUSINESS SOURCES as small as $60K, having chunks of $500K available is a revolution.
It remains to be seen how the granting agencies use the "wiggle rules" you noted. Those can potentially still be interpreted to deny LENR funding.
Time will tell.
Forbes has an article on this subject as well.
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