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Rare Film From 1932 U.S.Military attacks demonstrating American War Veterans
You Tube ^ | Jan 9, 2014 | Youtube

Posted on 01/11/2014 5:21:46 PM PST by chicagolady

History I never knew - SHOCKING Rare Film From 1932

http://www.youtube.com/embed/sNOsIB5VMSQ

.... they wouldn't do that to the citizens of the United States would they????

Can It Happen Again?


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1932; bef; bonusarmy; herberthoover; hoover; militaryfilm; veterans; vets
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To: chicagolady

I can remember our high school history teacher, Mr. Hester, teaching us about the bonus army.

I can’t remember which grade we were in. I do recall that he was a great admirer of Douglas McArthur.


61 posted on 01/11/2014 6:47:44 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Michael.SF.

I guess you read post 51. I have been thinking about putting together a list of all the uses of federal troops (on a large scale) done in America.

For instance the 101st Airborne in Little Rock Arkansas, in the 1950s, and Detroit.

Detroit, Michigan

“As the day wore on and looting and fires got worse, Romney called in the Michigan State Police and the Michigan National Guard.[141] At 3 a.m. on July 24, Romney and Detroit Mayor Jerome Cavanagh called U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark and requested that federal troops be sent.[141][142] Clark indicated that to do so, Romney would have to declare a state of civil insurrection, which the governor was loath to do from fear that insurance companies would seize upon it as a reason to not cover losses owing to the riot.[142] Elements of the 82nd and 101st U.S. Army Airborne Divisions were mobilized outside of the city.[143] As the situation in Detroit worsened, Romney told Deputy Secretary of Defense Cyrus Vance, “We gotta move, man, we gotta move.”[144] Near midnight on July 24, President Lyndon B. Johnson authorized thousands of paratroopers to enter Detroit.”


62 posted on 01/11/2014 6:48:49 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Michael.SF.
But none the less, calling out US troops against civilians is reprehensible

Yeah but the President is authorized to put down insurrection and a riot is a form of insurrection.

63 posted on 01/11/2014 6:52:05 PM PST by fso301
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To: Bill Russell
I refuse to believe that my Brothers and Sisters (with a few exceptions) will violate their oaths and attack civilians simply for demonstrating.

A large demonstration of civilians occurred in the summer of 1963 when Martin Luther King called for a Freedom March. One of the missions of The Old Guard (TOG) is to protect the D.C. area. In preparation for the event, the first battalion received riot control training with fixed chrome bayonets on M1 rifles and tear gas. Our NCOs and armorers had control of ammo and gas. As we sat ready to move out in duece-and-a-half trucks strung with chicken wire, our officers went from truck to truck telling us we may have to kill some Americans today, to remember our training and follow orders. There was no doubt that we would follow orders though we wondered how ~600 of us were going to control several hundred thousand angry Americans. That's what soldiers do - FOLLOW ORDERS. That's what soldiers do today too.

64 posted on 01/11/2014 6:52:41 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: chicagolady

I’m assuming this is the Bonus Army? Known about this for years. It was widely disseminated in the gun culture by John Ross in his novel Unintended Consequences, and also by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, of which I am a supporter.


65 posted on 01/11/2014 6:52:58 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: fso301

That was an unfortunate choice for a source since it refutes your claim, it clearly states they were veterans.

You claimed that the veterans had largely dissolved and been replaced, they hadn’t.

You can argue about individual leaders if you want, but it was still the veterans demonstrating.


66 posted on 01/11/2014 6:55:04 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Does that justify the use of military force against civilians?”

The District of Columbia Chief of Police, Glassford, had worked with the head of the protestors to keep the protestors limited to genuine veterans and their families and to alleviate their privations in their squatters’ shelters. This humanitarian working relationship was deliberately disrupted by factions among the protestors who wanted to incite domestic violence rather than avoid domestic violence.

After the U.S. Senate voted to deny early payments of the bonus and the Congress adjourned the Session, these violent factions violently attacked Glassford and his police to foment a lethal incident as further incitement to violence and armed insurrection. The Federal Government paid for the trasportation necessary to return the Bonus Army protestors to their homes around the United States, and about a fourth of them did so. Among the three-fourths who remained, however, there were many who advocated the violent overthrow of the government, including the Communist provocators. Subsequently, the deadly use of firearms convinced Glassford his police force could no longer maintain the safety of his police force or the District of Columbia by their own limited numbers and resources, so he requested assistance from Federal troops.

In the end, MacArthur’s exceeding the orders he received from the Commander-in-Chief resulted in a political and public relations problem for the Hoover Administration. Nonetheless, the use of military force was certainly justified by Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution and its obligation to oppose the armed domestic violence being used against the D.C. police and threatened against the elected representatives of the local and Federal governments.


67 posted on 01/11/2014 6:57:09 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: vladimir998

LOL, from silly posts, to over the top personal attacks from left field.

I think you exposed yourself well enough.


68 posted on 01/11/2014 6:59:25 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
That was an unfortunate choice for a source since it refutes your claim, it clearly states they were veterans.

Only unfortunate because I wasted my time on someone uninterested in gaining knowledge.

You claimed that the veterans had largely dissolved and been replaced, they hadn’t.

You didn't read the account did you? No you didn't.

69 posted on 01/11/2014 6:59:47 PM PST by fso301
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To: WilliamRobert

As the saying goes: We don’t mind if they come to our houses, we won’t be home, we’ll be at their houses.


70 posted on 01/11/2014 7:03:20 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: ansel12

“I think you exposed yourself well enough.”

The only exposed one is you. You can’t provide any evidence of what you claimed. Just as I said you would fail, you have. We both knew you would too.


71 posted on 01/11/2014 7:06:19 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: chicagolady

I don’t see where anyone has mentioned the Whiskey Rebellion was put down by President George Washington. 12,950 US Forces against civilians (farmers and Revolutionary War Veterans).

The Bonus Army was covered in my High School classes, which would have been in the ‘70’s.


72 posted on 01/11/2014 7:06:31 PM PST by Tigermoth ("...in order to form a more perfect union.....and secure the blessings of liberty..")
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To: vladimir998
No, they weren’t. I’m sure many had to skip meals and had little or no work, but they were not starving.

Well, they darned sure didn't have an obesity problem. Not a fat guy in the ranks.

73 posted on 01/11/2014 7:09:17 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: vladimir998

Actually hunger and inadequate diets, malnutrition, and slow starvation in some extreme cases, are known about the great depression, at least to most people.

Many of us had family that experienced it, and these men would have experienced it on the road and so far from home, it is what appears to have brought most of them to travel to DC in the first place, are you paying attention to this story at all?

You want to rage and attack people personally, but you don’t seem to be saying anything other than repeating over and over, that they weren’t facing starving and hunger.

If that is your opinion, then fine, to you it is all just Great Depression mythology, and poor people traveling at the time would not be dealing with such a problem, but your rage and hostility is off putting.


74 posted on 01/11/2014 7:15:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: chicagolady
Seems that the clip came from a PBS doc, The March of the Bonus Army.
75 posted on 01/11/2014 7:19:10 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: fso301

I obviously read what you asked me to, it repeatedly made clear they were veterans.

Again, rather than just repeat yourself, why didn’t you actually refute post 66?

To: fso301
That was an unfortunate choice for a source since it refutes your claim, it clearly states they were veterans.

You claimed that the veterans had largely dissolved and been replaced, they hadn’t.

You can argue about individual leaders if you want, but it was still the veterans demonstrating.
66 posted on 1/11/2014 6:55:04 PM by ansel12


76 posted on 01/11/2014 7:19:34 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: fso301

Sort of like how whenever the TEA party gathers for a demonstration, there’s always a handful of democrat plants who say awful things and try to get the media to blame us?


77 posted on 01/11/2014 7:20:55 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Michael.SF.

“True enough, but usually under the guise of the ‘national Guard’ and not US military forces.”

On the contrary, the U.S. armed forces have been used to suppress civil riots and other incidents of domestic violence on numerous occasions since the passage of the Posse Comitatus Act in 1878. These military actions were authorized by the U.S. Constitution and/or the U.S. Congress in compliance with the Posse Comitatus Act.

Furthermore, the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard are both active reserve components of the U.S. federal Government and therefore of the “US military forces.” They are not strictly state militia forces. There are some states which have reestablished active state militia forces which are not components of the armed forces of the United States Government.

“This action was a huge stain on the careers of all those involved.”

Only from the point of view of ill informed and willfully ignorant persons sympathetic to the point of view espoused by the socialist-Communist-Progressive false propaganda.


78 posted on 01/11/2014 7:21:25 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

Good background and added information, thank you.


79 posted on 01/11/2014 7:22:03 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Bill Russell

look at what our cops do to people in their own homes. they mow people down who think teir home is beig invaded - because it is.

obama’s getting rid of the officers who won’t follow his orders, look what will be left. enlisted will be told to follow orders or be shot on the spot. think they won’t do this? the landing crafts at normandy had a gunner in the back that would shoot anyone who wouldn’t jump out of the boat.


80 posted on 01/11/2014 7:26:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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