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Rare footage From World War 11 (color)
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Posted on 01/18/2014 5:59:48 PM PST by Ken H

Footage showing surrendering troops to US Army. southern Bohemia, Czechoslovakia 1945. Isn't strange that some Germans still carry weapons when surrendering plus a few shots from Prague.

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Bach's Air on a G string in the background makes this very moving.
1 posted on 01/18/2014 5:59:48 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

World War Eleven? I guess I’ve lost count.


2 posted on 01/18/2014 6:03:08 PM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Ken H

Methinks the Krauts priority was to make sure they surrendered to the Americans, not the Soviets.


3 posted on 01/18/2014 6:03:23 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Ken H

World War 11?

What about footage from World War 10?

(Just giving you a hard time...)

;)


4 posted on 01/18/2014 6:03:42 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps
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To: Ken H

Picture is distorted.


5 posted on 01/18/2014 6:04:47 PM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Ken H
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3108089/posts
6 posted on 01/18/2014 6:05:00 PM PST by fso301
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To: Ken H
Good evening.

Rare footage From World War 11

Eleven? Must be because Skynet became self-aware.

5.56mm

7 posted on 01/18/2014 6:07:57 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Ken H

Amazing. In color too. I like the Kraut General smiling like it is all fun...


8 posted on 01/18/2014 6:09:38 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ken H
Isn't strange that some Germans still carry weapons when surrendering

That was in case the surrender wasn't accepted.

9 posted on 01/18/2014 6:13:35 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: central_va

He was no doubt very grateful to be in American hands.


10 posted on 01/18/2014 6:14:32 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Misterioso

We used to refer to it as World War II (AYE AYE)
(Ya like that nautical touch?)


11 posted on 01/18/2014 6:15:03 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

> World War 11?
> What about footage from World War 10?

You stole my comment.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 6:15:08 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Misterioso

How did the planet ever survive the first ten?


13 posted on 01/18/2014 6:19:40 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: cynwoody
Methinks the Krauts priority was to make sure they surrendered to the Americans, not the Soviets.

Especially, if they had a wife or girlfriend with them.

14 posted on 01/18/2014 6:20:02 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bamtha a: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Olog-hai

lol


15 posted on 01/18/2014 6:20:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: central_va

He is smiling because he has made it to the Americans without being killed.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 6:21:53 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bamtha a: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

I’ve read that the Americans sometimes repatriated these guys to the Soviets, if the Russians were close by. I have a book by a Gebirgsjaeger (mountain troops) sniper who was captured by Americans who were going to hand the group over. He escaped, ditched his uniform and just went home.


17 posted on 01/18/2014 6:31:48 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: cynwoody

Methinks the Krauts priority was to make sure they surrendered to the Americans, not the Soviets.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
A lot more truth to that than many think.

A few years back when ‘they’ started saying the reason we ‘dropped the bigun’ on Japan was purely Racist, the reasoning being we never would have done that to Germany because they were White.
The idea was brought up that the ‘real’ reason we dropped it was because the Soviets were going to do to Japan and the Pacific like they did too Europe - either dominate it or split it up.

Patton was one of the few ‘name’ players who recognized what Russia was and MacArthur had China pegged correctly also.


18 posted on 01/18/2014 6:32:35 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: Ken H

I missed 9 world wars? I have got to stop drinking.


19 posted on 01/18/2014 6:34:40 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Ken H

Thank you for the posting.


20 posted on 01/18/2014 6:34:55 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Ken H

My ancestry lies somewhere in that area, Bohunk power :-!

Well, part of it anyway.

I hear ya on the music.

The victory at sea and world at war series have some very moving music..

Altho, I think I hear some more brewing in the distance..

A little hip hop punk


21 posted on 01/18/2014 6:42:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: reg45
Fleeing the Russians. Lot's of impressive mechanized equipment held by the Germans; I see why Patton wanted to resupply them and fight the Russians with two armies: the American and the German.

Czech countryside in the spring. Saw a flowering tree in the footage. The land would fall under enslavement by Soviet communist totalitarian control for over 40 years.

22 posted on 01/18/2014 6:45:58 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Ken H

Thanks for posting. Impressive.


23 posted on 01/18/2014 6:46:46 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: central_va

Did you notice how he started to salute and quickly changed it to a wave?


24 posted on 01/18/2014 6:46:59 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Olog-hai

I reckun it depends on what counts as a war.. And who is it waged on? Is a conflict a war, do we need troops in the affair.., or do drone strikes now qualify? We can drop a hot loogey on anybody anytime these days.

WE may have missed a whole
Lot of wars
Pursuing the ring
Should have been practicing
At the range..

Peace and out.


25 posted on 01/18/2014 6:48:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: central_va

They got to go home. They didn’t die for hitlers false promises. I’d be smiling too.


26 posted on 01/18/2014 6:55:52 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ken H

Thanks Ken... amazing film.....it’s like being able to see into the past...good show .`/%/%/%/~


27 posted on 01/18/2014 6:58:46 PM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: cynwoody
April fools on them, we sent plenty of German POWs over to the reds as a form of appeasement, and a huge chunk of them were never heard from again.

Yet another reprehensible act of appeasement by FDR to his communist buddies.

28 posted on 01/18/2014 7:00:20 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Ken H
What I never understood, was why the Germans fought Americans and British so fiercely. If I were Hitler, I'd have had every mechanized division and elite Division in the East fighting the Russkies, while using Foreign troops and Volkssturm in the West.

Because Hitler was a strategic idiot, as well as a murdering thug, he did more to advance Communism than anyone in history (mainly because he gave the Communists the one thing they've never had before or since-the moral high ground).

29 posted on 01/18/2014 7:02:00 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Misterioso

I could understand missing two or maybe even three. But did I really miss 9 of them? How did we do?


30 posted on 01/18/2014 7:11:30 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Given the subject, I wonder if we could dispense with the overused jokes.


31 posted on 01/18/2014 7:14:52 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

The Germans are so happy to be surrendering to Americans. The alternative was unthinkable.


32 posted on 01/18/2014 7:21:30 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: central_va
I like the Kraut General smiling like it is all fun...

I remember reading about one such surrender ceremony. I wish I could find a link for it. Anyway, it was May 1945 and a German general was surrendering his unit to a British general. The German was all smiles as he handed over his sword to the Britisher.

The British general was so enraged over the German's attitude that he took the sword and broke it over the German's head.

33 posted on 01/18/2014 7:21:45 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Ken H; cynwoody; central_va
That was amazing footage.

I did not get the footage in context before I watched. I should have, but it had an interesting effect on my perception. As I watched, I thought...this army looks pretty happy. There are women in some of the vehicles...and I was looking for some arrogance in the German troops, but...I didn't see much. They looked...happy.

No, that wasn't it. Then I came back and saw some posts and got the location in context and it hit me. They WERE happy...and relieved.

They DID have visible relief.

I am guessing it might have been something about this (from Wikipedia)

"The Battle of Slivice was the last large World War II battle in the area of the Czech lands. During 11–12 May 1945, German troops, trying to surrender to nearby American troops, defended themselves against local partisans and the Soviet Army. The Germans eventually capitulated during early hours of May 12. About 6,000 men were captured by the Soviet troops. On 7 May 1945, all German forces were ordered to remain in their positions and surrender. Field Marshal Ferdinand Schörner, however, the commander of the Army Group Centre deployed in Bohemia, ordered his units to force their way westwards in order to surrender to American forces. The units reached the agreed demarcation line in western Bohemia and stopped there. Since the Soviet Army was still days away from the demarcation line, the partisans tried, mostly unsuccessfully, to stop the Germans, who responded with reprisals against the local population. On several occasions, Russian Liberation Army units – also trying to reach the Americans – skirmished with the Germans.

On 9 May, a large formation of German troops reached the area between villages Milín, Slivice and Čimelice, near the demarcation line. Among them were parts of Kampfgruppe Wallenstein[3] and the 2nd SS Panzer Division's 4th SS Panzergrenadier Regiment; the formation was commanded by SS-Gruppenführer and General-Leutnant of the Waffen-SS Karl Friedrich von Pückler-Burghauß. The soldiers were accompanied by fleeing German civilians. Because the road toward the Americans was blocked by local resistance units, von Pückler-Burghauß ordered the establishment of defensive lines. After May 8, the Americans returned any soldiers attempting to surrender to the Soviet side.

On 11 May, partisan groups led by Soviet officer Yevgeniy Antonovich Olesenski attempted to storm the Germans and were decimated. Soviet Army units arrived that afternoon and attacked the Germans.

The attack started with a heavy artillery and rocket bombardment. The Soviet bombardment was supported by 4th Armored Division of the U.S. Third Army's XII Corps. Later, troops from the 1st, 2nd and 4th Ukrainian Fronts attacked the German positions. During the night, the defense collapsed and, at around 03:00, General von Pückler-Burghauß signed the capitulation. The American negotiators refused to take the General and his family, so, fearing revenge from the Russians for military crimes executed by himself while he served as Waffen-SS commander in occupied USSR, von Pückler-Burghauß shot himself. About 6,000 soldiers and a large number of vehicles were captured."

34 posted on 01/18/2014 7:37:58 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: MuttTheHoople
What I never understood, was why the Germans fought Americans and British so fiercely

One reason is that Hitler thought the Western allies were more vulnerable to a single knockout blow. That's why the Battle of the Bulge attack was aimed against the Americans and not against the Soviets.

Also, by late 1944 it was obvious that the Western allies were aiming for central Germany. Hitler mistakenly thought that the main Soviet thrust would be towards the Hungarian oil fields, not Berlin.

35 posted on 01/18/2014 7:42:22 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Defiant; Ken H

***Isn’t strange that some Germans still carry weapons when surrendering

That was in case the surrender wasn’t accepted. ***

My dad was with Patton’s third Army. He said that in the last few weeks of the war, armed Germans were moving West, away from the mad Russians, as fast as they could and were trying to get the GIs to accept their rifles. They were told to take them on to the rear areas and surrender them there.

My dad was only disarming the officers of their handguns. He said one pistol could be traded for one pack of cigarettes.


36 posted on 01/18/2014 8:53:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: xrmusn

M’Arthur was like a boulder rolling downhill in reguards to invading Japan. He had a plan for invasion and a date for J-Day. The estimate of one million Americans being killed in the invasion led Truman to drop the bombs.


37 posted on 01/18/2014 9:51:56 PM PST by Ecliptic (.)
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To: rlmorel; Ken H
 
 
All looked content to surrender - except for the one below as seen at about the 3:30 minute mark who chose to employ the very last of the Hitler Superweapons, the dreaded Wehrmacht Raspberry (leave it to a teenager...)
 
 
"THBBBT!"
 
 

38 posted on 01/18/2014 10:22:09 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Ken H

Not a kubelwagen to be seen. :-(


39 posted on 01/18/2014 11:22:55 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Ken H

Thanks, Ken H, for the video and your comment. Let’s get serious about serious subjects...there’s a time and place for everything, and war is no laughing matter.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 2:01:18 AM PST by itssme
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for the research on that. Yes they WOULD be happy to surrender to the Americans rather than the Soviets. They obviously knew that the Americans would treat them justly. And while they had lost, at least the war was over. I wonder how many of them had given up on Hitler’s vision years ago anyway - but they still had to fight.


41 posted on 01/19/2014 2:20:42 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Did you see what looked like the first all terrain vehicle(ATV)? German half tracks look so much better than ours...


42 posted on 01/19/2014 4:23:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: lapsus calami

Ha! I saw that one when I watched it the first time...:)


43 posted on 01/19/2014 6:40:51 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Ken H

He was a SS Officer. I doubt that he was over joyed when he found out all SS, regardless of where they fought, were treated as war criminals.
SS Truck drivers were treated the same as a Camp Guard.


44 posted on 01/19/2014 6:51:22 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: central_va
Did you see what looked like the first all terrain vehicle(ATV)?

Yes I did; the wife & I both did a double take when it went by; even skipped back to get another look.

Ditto the trike with 2 fronts & single rear wheel.

45 posted on 01/19/2014 1:38:31 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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