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4 Years Later, Mystery Still Shrouds McStay Family
NBC San Diego ^ | Tuesday, Feb 4, 2014 | Monica Garske

Posted on 02/05/2014 11:49:02 AM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 02/05/2014 11:49:02 AM PST by nickcarraway
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More on this story from last April

FBI taking over investigation of family's mysterious 2010 disappearance
CNN ^ | 04/10/2013 | Gabriel Falcon
 

Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:22:04 PM by Responsibility2nd

2 posted on 02/05/2014 11:53:58 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: nickcarraway

This one has me curious beyond measure… WTH really happened ?


3 posted on 02/05/2014 11:54:44 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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They mcleft (haha nailed it)


5 posted on 02/05/2014 11:55:40 AM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: nickcarraway

If the family didn’t have a drug connection, probably the cartels wouldn’t have been interested in them. I’d suspect it was a fleeing individual, related to drugs or not, who may or may not have been Mexican (that is, he may have fled into Mexico either because he had connections there or because it was nearby and he was running from something here).

It’s always possible that the family saw something or knew something, but in that case, I think they simply would have been killed in their house as a message.

Terrible story, in any case.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 11:57:19 AM PST by livius
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To: al baby

My first questions would be:

1. Did either of parents use or sell any kind of drugs?
2. Did either parent have any friends use or sell drugs?
3. Did any family member use or sale drugs?
4. Was there any inheritance in question?
5. Were both parents the natural parents of the children?
6. Who were their employers and did they associate with or were they related to any drug dealers or cartel members?
7. Did either have an affair going on/or previous to the family going missing. Any stalking, threats, or employment romance?

It would be logical all of these questions have been asked, but this is a curious cold case as you said. The drug questions are first for me because children aren’t usually murdered over an affair, in a crime of jealous passion, and if an inheritance is involved due to being minors. Drug cartels have no mercy.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 12:11:39 PM PST by Kackikat
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As I recall, their family dinner was on the table, and other items, like milk, were out of the fridge, as though they were surprised and suddenly taken out of the home. My speculation is that they were taken up to Victorville in the family car and then the killer or killers drove back to the border in the car and disappeared across the border. Which means the killer was most likely Mexican. So far, there are no ties that we know of to illegal drugs. So then what is it, a robbery gone wrong, mistaken identity, crazy illegal rapist?? It is a big mystery. I hope it is solved someday.


9 posted on 02/05/2014 12:13:44 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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Drug cartels have no mercy.

"Taken from their home in Fallbrook." That town is about 56 miles north of San Diego and not that close to the Mexican border , so i would expect little or no contact with a drug cartel, or illegals entering across the border.

Obviously everybody is a suspect, I just find it odd drug cartels would be mentioned.- Tom

10 posted on 02/05/2014 12:24:19 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Roscoe Karns

Exactly. They just decided not to mcstay.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 12:26:00 PM PST by huckfillary
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Two words: Drug debt.

Didn't the McStays come up with lots of money and bought a house even though they were 'broke'? I'm thinkin' this was a hit due to an unpaid drug debt, and SHE is the broker or mule who turned her back on her handlers.

12 posted on 02/05/2014 12:27:55 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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I’m unfamiliar with the case, being on east coast...however to kill a whole family implies some illegal activity or jealousy....money at stake, or they saw something somewhere that was incriminating to the perpetrator’s identity. Crimes of passion rarely involve the children, unless Identity is involved, but if no crime scene at the home, other than abduction, it seems that would not be it. Puzzling.


14 posted on 02/05/2014 12:36:59 PM PST by Kackikat
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Gotta be drug-related! It’s POSSIBLE some cartel thugs hijacked a family (the McStays) at random to go across the border and bring back drugs, with the promise they’d be paid handsomely for it. Once they made it back across the border with the drugs they were transported to a random remote location and wiped out. This could happen to ANY family living even remotely close to the border because it is EXTREMELY difficult for investigators to to tie the events together as they are random victims and transported to remotelocations chosen randomly on a whim.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 12:59:33 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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If it was a cartel wanting to send a “message” why bury them? You leave them out to be found as a warning to others.

Sounds like it was something very personal to the killers.


16 posted on 02/05/2014 1:22:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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I know the border, I have been to Fallbrook many times, and I have dirtbiked in the desert outside Victorville, where they found the bodies. It does make it less likely that a mere migrant or random bad guy drove up to Victorville and then absconded across the border. Such a person would probably have left the bodies in the house and hightailed it out of the US, not driven so far away to dispose of the bodies. At this point, there is nothing but pure conjecture. But we can assume that whoever it was wanted the bodies to remain undiscovered for a while, and that they wanted to throw off the scent for authorities by bringing the car back to the border. I think it’s also likely that the killer went over the border, but it’s possible that that too was a ruse. We will have to wait and hope to find out, I guess.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 1:36:25 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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I think people are looking for a connection to Mexico because their car was found within an easy walk of the border crossing. Odd that their car was there since it was not near their home or where their bodies were eventually found.

I doubt Cartel connection myself because Cartel murders are usually to send a message to others and bodies would likely not have been hidden. I say that though many murdered in Mexico by Cartel have been found buried in the desert. If Cartel related there must have been a connection of some sort the murderer thought would be made to them- reason for hiding/burying bodies. Seems no such connection has been made so if true it isn’t obvious.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 2:05:17 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I don’t think it was a message of any kind, more like being in wrong place at wrong time and seeing something that happened and being able to identify the killers or kidnappers, etc....
OR like you said.... something personal, as my questions noted. There is something unknown to law enforcement and those investigating this crime.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 3:25:30 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Your paintings are fantastic....what a talent!


20 posted on 02/05/2014 3:27:57 PM PST by Kackikat
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