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Lengthy article but the scientists' convolutions in trying to link recent frigid events to global warming misses one very important element in the analysis: The impact of the sun. In fact, the "S" word is not even mentioned in the 1,350 plus word article.

I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

1 posted on 02/10/2014 1:36:04 PM PST by CedarDave
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Christian Science Weirdness: Is Collectivist Agenda to Blame?
2 posted on 02/10/2014 1:37:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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Of course, the cold weather has nothing to do with it being winter in the Northern Hemisphere.


3 posted on 02/10/2014 1:40:09 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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the decline in Arctic sea ice

That's where he lost me. I guess he doesn't want to be confused by the facts. Did the idiots trying to sail the Northwest Passage last summer ever break free of the ice?

4 posted on 02/10/2014 1:40:53 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Ahhh . . . what “warming” is this?


5 posted on 02/10/2014 1:43:09 PM PST by YHAOS
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Winter weirdness: Is Arctic warming to blame?,

Once the first warming moved into the Arctic all of the cold moved to the suburbs.

6 posted on 02/10/2014 1:49:20 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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Winter weirdness: Is Arctic warming to blame?

From the reports I've seen, it has been unusually warm this winter in Alaska and unusually cold in areas to the south (polar vortex). This would seem to indicate a shift in climatic conditions (maybe the jet stream or something else), which may be short term, or could last for centuries - who knows. My guess is that as cold as it has been in the South this winter, it will probably be a blazing hot summer come around May or June.

Some enterprising pseudo-scientist will probably write a book and get a big fat grant to study this.

7 posted on 02/10/2014 1:50:08 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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The arctic is so warm that the cold air has to flee south to get away.


8 posted on 02/10/2014 1:52:40 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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This winter is annoying, not weird.

Do people expect every Jan/Feb to be in the 40s and snow free?

Wait until it hits 90 in August. They will be back saying THAT is “unusual” too.


9 posted on 02/10/2014 1:52:46 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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Exactly. The world is getting colder because its getting warmer.


10 posted on 02/10/2014 1:54:05 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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These people need to be locked in a room with Joe Bastardi for as long as it takes.


11 posted on 02/10/2014 2:03:23 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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the question arrives with the premise, that “occassional” (not every year) variations from any preselected set of years, were never occassional variattions which occurred in any earlier preselected set of years

it would have everyone think that ONLY now for some “new and manmade reason” does Alaska have such a mild winter occassionally and only now does Atlanta have such a cold winter and only now has both those things occurred in the same season, and never before was there ever a season when it happended - which to believe that would be hogwash

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/snowstorms-in-the-south-an-historical-perspective


12 posted on 02/10/2014 2:07:25 PM PST by Wuli
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Aye mate. We live in a “solar system”. The sun controls the climate on ALL of the planets in that system. A small flare-up on the surface of the sun causes all kinds of repercussions on our little speck here 93 million miles away. I am getting so sick of this crap from people looking for grants and politicians looking for power!


13 posted on 02/10/2014 2:08:33 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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I think the Alaska party is over.
Fairbanks forecast low tonight is -45F.
There was one day last month when it was warmer than my vacation spot in Destin Florida, though.


15 posted on 02/10/2014 2:12:34 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To teh cult of globull warming, EVERY weather event is “proof” of globull warming whether it be drought or flood, heat wave or blizzard, hurricane or mild weather.


16 posted on 02/10/2014 2:13:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

Unfortunately while the ice did grow/not shrink greatly this summer, all these Polar Vortexes are taking much of the cold away from the Arctic which means the Arctic sea ice has not been growing as much as it normally does this winter.

If things don't change soon, when the annual Arctic maximum sea ice extent is reached in another month or so, it might be smallest one observed (since satellite coverage in 1979).

Which of course means non-stop coverage by the media and fraudsters. They will of course ignore or downplay the 100 other things they got wrong (Like the Antarctic being a record extents)

17 posted on 02/10/2014 2:14:03 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Whichever explaination can keep their government funding money flowing, or whichever explaination sounds best to market their ‘green’ products.
Hipsters spend billions on ‘green’ lifestyle. ‘Green” is an industry. Gotta keep the fear up to keep the money coming in.


18 posted on 02/10/2014 2:15:57 PM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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That would have huge economic implications," says Cecilia Bitz, a climate scientist at the University of Washington in Seattle who specializes in the role that Arctic sea ice plays in the climate system.

"Huge economic implications in the form of government grants. Yippee!"

21 posted on 02/10/2014 2:21:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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Every year, the weather is different than it was the year before. Sometimes a little different. Sometimes very different.

Every year. Everywhere.

23 posted on 02/10/2014 2:25:04 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

2013

(in bold red)
24 posted on 02/10/2014 2:33:15 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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“extreme”
“unusual”

What these scientists fail to understand is that weather varies. Weather doesn’t feel compelled to conform to the averages and the norms. “extreme” weather is normal.

Sometimes it’s cold, sometimes it’s warm. Sometimes it’s very cold, sometimes it’s very warm.

Get used to it!


26 posted on 02/10/2014 2:36:05 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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