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Expert: Iran ships a dry run for later nuclear/EMP attack; humiliate Obam
Washington Examiner ^ | 2/14/14 | PAUL BEDARD

Posted on 02/14/2014 3:51:56 PM PST by Kartographer

Iran's surprising decision to move warships off the Atlantic coast poses a potential catastrophic threat to America from a nuclear or electromagnetic pulse attack, according to an expert who foresaw Iran's move.

Peter Pry, an expert on EMP attacks, said the ships are likely a dry run for a future attack, a maneuver meant to lull Washington into complacency while also embarrassing President Obama and his effort to convince Tehran to give up production of a nuclear bomb in return for a lifting of some economic sanctions.

“Yes, patrols by the Iranian Navy off our coasts could pose threat of a surprise EMP attack,” said Pry, who with others such as former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, has convinced several state legislatures to take moves to harden their electric and energy grids from EMP attack because Washington won't.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aipac; emp; iran; military; obama; peterpry; petervincentpry; pry
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This combined with Mulitple attacks like:

The Metcalf Incident (California electrical station attack)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3121262/posts

Could mean lights out for a very long time.

1 posted on 02/14/2014 3:51:56 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

“Peter Pry, an expert on EMP attacks”

Excuse me, but how can anyone be an expert in EMP attacks when there haven’t been any yet???


2 posted on 02/14/2014 3:55:01 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Kartographer

But, such an attack will take place early in a GOP Administration, so we can play “connect the dots” again.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 3:55:13 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Kartographer

Make sure they are shadowed by some Aegis cruisers who could handle any unforeseen issues. Give them the ROE to respond appropriately. It will not happen, we are so screwed.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 3:59:41 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: babygene
I hope to hell someone has extensively been studying these things or otherwise we get to learn about them after the fact.
5 posted on 02/14/2014 3:59:58 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Erik Latranyi

Meanwhile on a US naval vessel, “do we have a solution yet sonar?” “We had one when they left port sir.”


6 posted on 02/14/2014 4:01:18 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Kartographer

The Boston terrorists were brought in against
Russian warnings and WITHOUT PASSPORTS.
Will the Iranians be given detailed maps,
or just more weapons like al Qaeda by the US State Dept?


7 posted on 02/14/2014 4:09:58 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Erik Latranyi
such an attack will take place early in a GOP Administration

Perhaps it will be late in an Obama administration to give him a chance to suspend the election, constitution and whatever he needs to solidity his dictatorship. There's no telling what kind of deal he's made with them.

8 posted on 02/14/2014 4:10:56 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Kartographer
Oh please.

A dry run for something that would instantly be tracked back to the source and would create the perfect reason to annihilate the Persian nuisance?

Expert my eye.

Too many chicken little’s running around these days.

9 posted on 02/14/2014 4:15:20 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

The response from Party Secretary to such an attack would be a strongly worded letter, with a finger wag. More likely, a call for the American people to do some introspective navel gazing to consider how this was all America’s fault. FUBO!

Back during another era, such a ship in international waters but close enough would be shadowed by a US Navy destroyer, occasionally painting the target. Not to the point like the Soviet Navy would do the “bump and grind” in the Mediterranean, but close enough. Add the hourly buzzing by patrol aircraft. But this is a new era.


10 posted on 02/14/2014 4:26:00 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Pox

Do you think they really care if they die?


11 posted on 02/14/2014 4:28:03 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Erik Latranyi

That’s a great American perspective, but I would think that the enemy - if they have militaristic strategic goals (rather than geopolitical) - would be utter FOOLS not to take advantage of this utterly incompetent administration. They have a two to three year window to attack us. B-HO gets his constitutionally nebulous martial law. What are your thoughts? Best, Bill


12 posted on 02/14/2014 4:29:32 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Fred Hayek

Such a response would simply necessitate the immediate removal of all cowards from the government, so I give that theory little credence, and I factor in the historical records of lefties who love to wage war. Iran would be doomed, and it knows it.

In any case, that joke of a “fleet” will be lucky to survive the elements if it attempts to cross the Atlantic and back. The whole pony show is for internal consumption in Iran and that should be blatantly obvious.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 4:30:26 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Kartographer
Do you really think they're eager enough to risk the perpetuation of their genes? As in the whole country of Iran would more or less likely cease to exist if not a good chunk of the world's population if such a can of worms were suddenly opened?

They may be ready to meet Allah on a small scale, but everyone wants to see their genes continue one way or another, and as crazy and maniacal as they are, even those looney toons aren't that stupid.

14 posted on 02/14/2014 4:33:33 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Kartographer

“I hope to hell someone has extensively been studying these things or otherwise we get to learn about them after the fact.”

People study all kinds of things... Look at what we’ve spent on studying global warming. Trillions of dollars worldwide... And it was all BS. So is this. Just another way to get money by the supposed “experts”.

I am not an expert by any means, but I have been involved in electromagnet technology since my years in the Navy in the early sixties and a double E.

It’s not going to happen... There’s just not enough energy in an atomic blast, even if could all be converted to elector magnetic waves to do serious damage.

There is more energy, by several orders of magnitude, from the tens of thousands of lighting strikes that happen yearly in the U.S. every year. Yes they can cause damage and often do. Sometimes the lights go out for a while. Sometimes your computer gets fried...


15 posted on 02/14/2014 4:34:22 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Kartographer

And BTW, although it’s referred to as EMP, it’s really a magnet pulse... it’s really a magnetic pulse. The magnet pulse creates an e field in a conductor.


16 posted on 02/14/2014 4:44:08 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Burbs of Ft. Lauderdale here.

Few months ago, lightning hit the house.
It took out two cable boxes (1 was a dvr with all kinds of recordings on it). And it fried the sound in my computer because the ac power for the speakers was not plugged in the surge protector.

So the lightning traveled along the uverse wires AND the powerlines. Was it LOUD


17 posted on 02/14/2014 4:52:28 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

Yes... we’ve all lost things due to Lightning. But you said it hit your house... I’d ask you... How many times has that happened. Did your phones go out? They use a simple transorb to protect them.

Like I said. not a problem...


18 posted on 02/14/2014 5:01:25 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

I like reading that. Thanks for posting. Now I kinda want them to try something so we can respond with something massive enough that Tehran will only be spoken of in the past tense.


19 posted on 02/14/2014 5:06:51 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( 0bama's words are the distraction to the destruction ))))
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To: Kartographer

Sounds like the plot of “One Second After”, except that attack originated from a freighter in the Gulf of Mexico, so as to allow the missle to reach the center of the country more easily, before exploding. This makes the ‘reach’ of the EMP attack cover the entire continental US.


20 posted on 02/14/2014 5:17:04 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Kartographer
Do you think they really care if they die?

You seem to have your races and brands of religion confused.

21 posted on 02/14/2014 5:22:39 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Pox
... annihilate the Persian nuisance?

Exactly what many in the Persian government want - worldwide cataclysm, thus summoning the Twelfth Imam out from whatever well he's napping in, and Islam ruling the world.

22 posted on 02/14/2014 5:39:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer
"Iran's surprising decision to move warships off the Atlantic coast..."

Is that anything like unexpected?

23 posted on 02/14/2014 5:43:06 PM PST by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: Pox
...and as crazy and maniacal as they are, even those looney toons aren't that stupid. <

Are you absolutely certain?

24 posted on 02/14/2014 5:47:05 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: DuncanWaring

Nonsense.

While many may subscribe to this gibberish, even the Mad Mullah’s from Persia understand that what will be unleashed could quite possibly end with the annihilation of most life on the planet. The Middle East will burn first and foremost and more likely than not nothing in that area will survive.

There won’t be a world for Islam to rule, not to mention there won’t be an Islam if they push it too far. They know this, and anyone who isn’t kidding themselves knows this as well.

I couldn’t think of a better reason to permanently remove Islam from the planet than to do what you seem to believe they are eager to do. The rest of the world, or what’s left of it, would likely decide to eradicate Islam and all Muslims and not stop until such a goal was accomplished.

Iranians know this. They talk a good game and play footsie behind the scenes (along with stirring up as much trouble as they possibly can to further their agenda), but to push the nuclear button outside of the Middle East is a whole different level of suicide. Even pushing the button in the ME would be a risk that they may or may not be prepared to take, but it looks like we’ll find out sooner or later at this rate.


25 posted on 02/14/2014 5:50:45 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: babygene
So what do you think cause the recorded and document occurrences of EMP during nuclear testing?
26 posted on 02/14/2014 5:51:36 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pox

If it worked the way you think WW II would have been over a good 6 months before it was. Also Japan would have never start a war as many of their best military minds knew that they couldn’t win we it started. Seems to me they had plenty of people that were willing to die, if they hadn’t we wouldn’t have lost so many boys taking Islands. You do remember that less than 10% of Japanese soldiers surrended. Also it wouldn’t have taken two bombs to end it. You do know that Japan only surrended because of Hirohito and even then the surrender only happen because a handful of Japanese Officers stop a coup and the arrest of the Hirohito?


27 posted on 02/14/2014 6:05:19 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pox
I wish the Japanese had thought like that. I would have know several of my Family members instead of them lay at the bottom of the Pacific of leaking out their life out on some little piece of sand and coral in the middle of no where.
28 posted on 02/14/2014 6:08:53 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pox

It’s regularly demonstrated that individual Muslims have no problem with killing themselves; why are you so certain this would never apply on a national scale?


29 posted on 02/14/2014 6:13:52 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer

” So what do you think cause the recorded and document occurrences of EMP during nuclear testing? “

They tested hundreds and hundreds of nuclear weapons in Nevada, only a hundred miles from me. No one here noticed...


30 posted on 02/14/2014 6:19:29 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Kartographer
... totally unexpected ...
31 posted on 02/14/2014 6:22:41 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Diogenesis

To be sure hussein gave them permission and wrote them a check for the fuel.


32 posted on 02/14/2014 7:04:24 PM PST by bgill
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To: Kartographer

Or they are making an actual EMP run. I guess we will find out in due time.


33 posted on 02/14/2014 7:12:40 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: tbpiper

After a successfull EMP attack it won’t matter at all what the kenyan intends. Washington and the military and FEMA will be just as impotent as the rest of us and will be wholly engaged in trying to find food in the ensuing famine.


34 posted on 02/14/2014 7:16:37 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Of what use to anyone is "martial law" after a successful EMP?

35 posted on 02/14/2014 7:18:48 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Kartographer

I am quite aware of how WW2 went.

Times have changed and the Persians are quite aware of what Thermonuclear weapons are capable of.

Nothing has to work the way “I think”. Nobody can tell what will happen if the balloon goes up, but most people with any but of intelligence understands that mankind is quite capable of rendering this planet lifeless. Believe it or not, even the Mad Mullahs understand this.


36 posted on 02/14/2014 8:07:54 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Kartographer

The Japanese sure understand it now, don’t they?


37 posted on 02/14/2014 8:08:27 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Muslims aren’t the only ones with such suicidal tendencies, but they seem to be the majority at this point.

If we take an EMP from Iran, which will doom tens of millions of Americans to die from the disruption of our current way of life, do you in any way think that we won’t annihilate Iran, one way or another? If the Coward-in-Chief refused to do anything about it, I have no doubt our government would be put under immediate siege by civilians who WILL clean out D.C. and put in a government that WILL annihilate Iran and any of her allies.

Sure, it may be the beginning of the end of mankind, but what would you have us do, surrender and cower down as slaves? No thanks. This mindset is what keeps the sane nuclear powers in check.

As bad as Iran is, you don’t think Pakistan is as bad? And they are a nuclear power now. Saudi Arabia will likely become one as soon as Iran has nukes and don’t you think they’re as much as a threat as Iran?

What’s keeping NK from attempting to pop a nuke over us? They’re obviously as insane as the Persian leaders, correct?


38 posted on 02/14/2014 8:15:31 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: arthurus
Of what use to anyone is "martial law" after a successful EMP?

Exactly! Only a delusional king narcissist who holds the reigns of whatever powers are left to him, would know.

39 posted on 02/14/2014 9:21:50 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Pox

Yes things go must go the way you ‘Think’ you have repeated shown anger, beligenance and contempt for any that don’t agree with you 100%.

You clearly have no idea what these people are capable of and do not understand that they are basical a culture of death.


40 posted on 02/14/2014 9:33:08 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
You're both full of shi’ite and projecting.

On this forum, I'll assume you comprehend exactly what I said. If you cannot comprehend my meaning, I will be more than happy to elaborate and link to your past posts that show you for what you are.

More often than not, you have useful posts, but if anyone contradicts you, you are belligerent and insufferable, IMO.

41 posted on 02/14/2014 9:49:41 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: tbpiper
Perhaps it will be late in an Obama administration to give him a chance to suspend the election, constitution and whatever he needs to solidity his dictatorship. There's no telling what kind of deal he's made with them.

That's a disturbing thought.

42 posted on 02/14/2014 9:50:11 PM PST by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: Pox

Maybe you are right when comes being belligerent and insufferable you would know best, IMHO.


43 posted on 02/14/2014 10:00:46 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I changed my mind. Life is too short to bother quibbling over such things.

Believe what you please, no skin off my back.


44 posted on 02/14/2014 10:02:20 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Kartographer

It was interesting until they said they would use the Klub-k to launch the strike. The Klub series are cruise missiles with a supersonic terminal attack.

EMP attacks need to be at very high altitude, so ballistic missiles would be necessary.


45 posted on 02/14/2014 10:04:40 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Kartographer
Did you guys see this? Jim taking on Obam's arrival group today...what a man! Sign reads "Obama Lied" and Jim's yelling!


46 posted on 02/14/2014 10:06:59 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Good ole JIM!!! I am going right now and make another donation to FR!


47 posted on 02/14/2014 10:09:30 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yep! Makes ya so proud to see him take them on! What a Man!


48 posted on 02/14/2014 10:14:49 PM PST by caww
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To: Kartographer
Pry, who with others such as former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, has convinced several state legislatures to take moves to harden their electric and energy grids from EMP attack because Washington won't.

Good! If Obama won't act, we will have to. We have phones and pens, too.

49 posted on 02/14/2014 10:18:41 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kartographer

I’ve been thinking the exact same thing except: Why a dry run and not a surprise attack to disable us preemptively so they are free to attack Isreal without the USA distraction?
Who among our “experts” knows how soon Iran will have a nuke or if they already have one? Our defenders are playing a dangerous game and we have no idea what Iran is really capable of.


50 posted on 02/14/2014 10:25:42 PM PST by tinamina
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