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With number on wrist, Venezuelans queue at markets
Yahoo News ^ | 03/08/2014 | Laurent Thomet

Posted on 03/09/2014 11:42:46 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Patricia Gamboa arrived at a government-run supermarket in western Venezuela at 2:00 am, six hours before doors opened, to be first in line and buy whatever she could get her hands on.

As dawn broke, about 200 people stood behind her outside the Bicentenario shop in San Cristobal, with numbers written on their wrists with green markers to avoid arguments over who came first.

What was she hoping to buy, then?

"Whatever they have," she said, echoing the sentiment of everybody else reading, sipping coffee or sitting on the sidewalk to pass the time.

Residents can only shop at Bicentenario on certain days, which are decided by the last numbers on their ID cards. Once in line, people agreed on the wrist number system to avoid trouble, but the shop also assigns them paper numbers.

Across the city, even longer lines stretched 200 meters (yards) deep at two private supermarkets

Critics say businesses are not given enough dollars by the government through its currency agency to import enough goods.

Maduro blames smugglers who take advantage of Venezuela's weak currency to sell food and gasoline across the border in Colombia at a hefty profit.

Those lucky enough to find what they need at government-run stores will pay at regulated prices. At private markets, items can be three, four, even seven times more expensive.

But there is a black market rate in Venezuela, which has quadrupled over the past years from 20 to around 80 bolivars to the dollar.

"It's a crime," the socialist leader said, vowing to take economic and police action. "You make more by selling milk than selling cocaine today at the border."

But many residents of San Cristobal, an opposition stronghold, say corrupt government workers are among those smuggling goods across the border.

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 666; venezuela
Socialist utopia!
1 posted on 03/09/2014 11:42:46 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Coming to America


2 posted on 03/09/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Rusty0604
ahh yes, the concentrated blessings of socialism are a joy to behold...

embrace the suck, suckers

3 posted on 03/09/2014 11:47:35 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rusty0604
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name..."
4 posted on 03/09/2014 11:49:01 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...”

That was my first thought, as well.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 11:51:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Paine in the Neck

it’ll be easier with technology.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 11:51:54 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Paine in the Neck

“Residents can only shop at Bicentenario on certain days, which are decided by the last numbers on their ID cards. Once in line, people agreed on the wrist number system to avoid trouble, but the shop also assigns them paper numbers.”

Based on their ID cards.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 11:51:59 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604







Where are they now??
8 posted on 03/09/2014 11:56:53 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Rusty0604
"It's a crime," the socialist leader said, vowing to take economic and police action. "You make more by selling milk than selling cocaine today at the border."

"How DARE they cut into my drug profits!!"

9 posted on 03/09/2014 11:59:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Chode

We are using the same voting machines as Venezuela
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/washington/29ballot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&;

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/16/1100628/-It-s-the-Voting-Machines-Not-the-Voters#

Obama outsourced the 2012 vote counting to foreign company tied to Soros.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/09/13/fact-check-does-soros-own-an-overseas-company-that-will-count-u-s-votes/

Smartmatic: All things connected
http://www.vcrisis.com/?content=letters/200508141135


10 posted on 03/09/2014 12:05:39 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: Rusty0604

We should set up an exchange program to send our progressives and socialist dreamers over and bring capitalist minded Venezuelans here.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 12:06:28 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

12 posted on 03/09/2014 12:09:19 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: Chode

THAT SOCIALISM IS A HUMM DINGER EH? WORKS EVERY TIME...SPREADS MISERY OVER ENTIRE NATIONS....SLICK AS A WHISTLE....AND THE FKDUMISTANIANS GO FOR IT LIKE BROWN ON A FECAL LOG...OR SOMETHING....


13 posted on 03/09/2014 12:17:04 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: mgist
yup, unfortunately there are enough looters with their hand out this cycle the machines might not even come into play...

we are screwed no matter what

14 posted on 03/09/2014 12:20:40 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: jimsin
100%
15 posted on 03/09/2014 12:20:59 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rusty0604

Following the predictable pattern.

So I have to ask, why are people who insist on following the failed policies of the past called “Progressive”? And why do so many of us allow them to pervert that word?


16 posted on 03/09/2014 12:40:44 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Paine in the Neck; Kartographer
Of course that was the first thing I thought of as well. So, this tells me two potential things.

First, although not deployed in a sophisticated manner this instance, yet we can now see how and why such a personal numeric system will likely be used.

Second, it now seems pretty clear that there will be some world-wide collapse requiring this personal numeric system. It seems likely that it could be an economic collapse, but it could also be an agricultural collapse due to devastation of war. Recall, that in the day a loaf of bread will cost a day's wages.

So, it seems that we can now see how people will willingly apply the mark to themselves and why. The question is when.

17 posted on 03/09/2014 1:01:25 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: logic101.net

I keep saying this over and over. Progressives/Liberals are not very bright and are weak-spirited.

I’m not trying to be unkind in saying this, but they are broadly least among us able to take care of themselves and make good personal decisions, therefore, they like, want, and seek out a strong government to help them order their lives, and somehow they are deceived into thinking that everyone is like them and needs this coerced government intrusion.

They view bigger government as a matter of charity helping them and others they know who cannot do life by themselves. They need government. For the rest of us )generally Conservatives), we abide in faith in God and self-sufficiency. We therefore want government as far away from us as humanly possible!

This is the difference and why “Progressives” constantly yearn for government to take care of them.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 1:09:02 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

GMTA


19 posted on 03/09/2014 1:16:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Rusty0604

Chavez was not an invader and he gained power through legal means (although he has not kept it through legal means)

Basically, the Venezualans chose their fate. I could not care less if they have to stand in bread lines. Lets hope the Chavistas stay in power for another 20 years, as a festering sore and lesson to others who think socialism is grand


20 posted on 03/09/2014 1:17:35 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Rusty0604

-— government-run supermarket -—

The sound of that just warms your heart, doesn’t it?

The stupidity of progressives seems to be limitless.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 1:21:30 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: logic101.net

It’s fraud, FRAUD. When Chavez was first elected he promised the poor money, and cushy contracts for wealthier supporters.

Everyone thought they were going to get something. Chavez, like Obama had unusually large amounts of campaign cash and in didn’t come from Venezuela. It came from places like Iran. In politics, money is what makes things happen. It buys image, sells a story, and markets the man. The local and international media supported Chavez. They didn’t call him a socialist.mthey called him a populist.

Opposition candidate was weak. It was either planned, or bribed, and media managed to make opposition look worse.

Chavez won, he immediately putmhis people in plave everywhere, started tweaking the constitution according to his whims and needs, intimidated media that criticized illegalities either directly or had his “supporters” threaten anyone who voiced complaints.

The voting machines changed, the school curriculum changed, the military and police were thoroughly corrupted and an essential part of a drug trade that turned Venezuela into the biggest distributoe in the world.

Chavez implemented complete gun controls for civilians while Venezuela turned into the homicide capital of the world. Cubans started coming in in droves.

Inflation came in, the price regulations caused shortages, many professionals left the country, Chavez put limits on bank withdrawals, crime was through the roof. They put government informants in schools, neighborhoods, and businesses. You never know if the person your talking to is an informant. People who complained usually ended up victims of crime.

Chavez kept on getting elected, even though his supporters were likely 1 in 15 people. He had thousand of paid supporters online 24/7 to blog, troll, and basically praise everything Chavez did. Most Venezuelans knew that a lot of the supporters were Cubans pretending to be Venezuelans because of the dialect used. The media repeated the farce of Chavez being a popular democratically elected president.

Then came Maduro. There was a small percentage of people who believed Chavez to be a diety, that love didn’t translate to Maduro. Everyone knew there was no way he was “elected”.

Those unarmed fed up civilians are now facing tanks, machine guns, and union thugs in red shirts who act with impunity.


22 posted on 03/09/2014 1:34:22 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: Rusty0604
What was she hoping to buy, then? "Whatever they have," she said, echoing the sentiment of everybody else reading, sipping coffee or sitting on the sidewalk to pass the time.

That is exactly how lineups formed in the USSR and other utopias.

23 posted on 03/09/2014 1:40:38 PM PDT by xp38
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To: mgist

Dear God.


24 posted on 03/09/2014 1:55:10 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Chode

Tattooed numbers are next.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 1:56:39 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: PGR88

Obama gained power here the same way. Not all Venezuelans wanted that socialist sh**, same as here. I hope you don’t feel the same for the U.S.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 2:02:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

They were probably built in “food deserts”.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 2:02:58 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: gigster

But don’t dare say the words “Nazi” or “Hitler”! This time it’s for the good of the people!


28 posted on 03/09/2014 2:06:31 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: gigster
or...

29 posted on 03/09/2014 2:10:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: logic101.net
So I have to ask, why are people who insist on following the failed policies of the past called “Progressive”? And why do so many of us allow them to pervert that word?

Often, I tie their use of the word to compare them to a cancer. It's like turning an opponent’s arm to twist their own knife into their own belly.

30 posted on 03/09/2014 2:19:42 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
-— government-run supermarket health-care -—

The sound of that just warms your heart, doesn’t it?

31 posted on 03/09/2014 2:23:16 PM PDT by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: Obadiah

Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L33OWl2eUQ


32 posted on 03/09/2014 3:23:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Rusty0604; Kartographer

Da, Tovarishch!


33 posted on 03/09/2014 3:56:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Rusty0604

I bet they also had to bring their own bags! just like here in Los Angeles. No plastic bags for you!


34 posted on 03/09/2014 5:03:20 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Rusty0604

“Maduro blames smugglers who take advantage of Venezuela’s weak currency to sell food and gasoline across the border in Colombia at a hefty profit.”

Ah, evil capitalism is ruining socialist utopia in Venezuala, just like here! That is the beauty of demonizing right minded folks, it becomes easy to shift blame from Dear Leader to the evil profiteers! They should start shipping those folks off to camps.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 11:33:58 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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