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The mysterious coywolf, a mixture of western coyote and eastern wolf
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Posted on 03/09/2014 2:01:08 PM PDT by DBCJR

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To: Aria

I wholeheartedly agree!

Bears scare me silly!

:D


81 posted on 03/09/2014 4:24:56 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander

You are correct-they are not technically hybrids-a mule or a liger is a hybrid-not one of these canine critters-thanks.


82 posted on 03/09/2014 4:25:14 PM PDT by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Salamander
I really think you just have generic feral dogs running amok.

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Agreed.

83 posted on 03/09/2014 4:26:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salamander

What I would find scary would be a cowwolf.


84 posted on 03/09/2014 4:30:03 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Yes, You are always right /S)
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To: Valpal1

“This group probably represents the earliest radiation of domestic dog”

And that’s like forever ago, genetically speaking and irrelevant to the discussion of the current, apparently unkillable ‘coydog’ mythos.

98% of our genes match with chimps.

So what?

:)


85 posted on 03/09/2014 4:31:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Texan5

Will you come “back me up” on the next argument I’m in, involving the myth of “hybrid vigor”?

;D


86 posted on 03/09/2014 4:32:57 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: ThomasThomas

Ha!

:D


87 posted on 03/09/2014 4:33:40 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander

Midwestern and southeastern coyotes were genetically 90 percent coyote, with an average of 7.5 percent dog and 2.5 percent wolf. The advanced genetic techniques used in this study also allowed the scientists to estimate when the hybridization initially occurred. Kays said “In most cases this breeding across species lines seems to have happened at times when humans were hunting eastern wolves to extinction, and the few remaininganimals could find no proper mates, so took the best option they could get.” Kays continues, “The exceptions were an older hybridization between coyotes and wolves in the western Great Lakes dating from 600-900 years ago, and a coyote-dog hybridization in the eastern U.S. about 50 years ago, when coyote were first colonizing eastern forests.”

More Information: http://artdaily.com/news/47591/New-York-State-Museum-Scientist—Dr—Roland-Kays—Co-Authors-Study-on-Wolves—Coyotes#.Uxz69fldWSo[/url]
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88 posted on 03/09/2014 4:38:43 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Salamander

That is beyond stupid-that is like having a cross between a lynx/bobcat and a domestic cat for a pet-an unpredictable, dangerous and probably very unhappy pet-I’m convinced that people who breed domestic pets with wild animals must secretly hate animals...

This is BF Egypt where I live-a rural area 35 miles from the city and 22 miles from the nearest “town”, so we do not have a lot of feral dogs-at least not if they are dumb enough to stay in the woods where a cougar has a territory. The game wardens say these aggressive, odd ones are coyote/dog crosses-but they definitely aren’t chupacabras...

I’ve read about the rescue and preservation of the red wolves with great interest-there were supposedly some in East Texas, but I read they were found to be bred with coyotes-what a shame.


89 posted on 03/09/2014 4:41:11 PM PDT by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Salamander
Ever seen a Borzoi?

My new next door neighbor has three of them. Interesting dogs and very friendly. Quiet too, I like that. Everything about them is long, slender and pointed. lol

90 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Texan5
You got that right.

I can't even wrap my head around "designer dogs", let alone wild/domestic crosses.

Who, for example, thought it was a Good Idea to mix Dobes and Standard Poodles?

Yikes!

They do have wild/domestic cat crosses, ya know.

What could possibly go wrong©?


91 posted on 03/09/2014 4:58:28 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TigersEye; Salamander

It is an incredible video story, and a little scary.

Supposedly, they are not out in the West. However, some of us outdoor types have seen critters for years, something bigger and bolder than our usual Willie coyote and not as big as a wolf.

Their lack of shyness is a little unnerving. They probably
help keep the stray dog and cat population under control.


92 posted on 03/09/2014 5:02:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: cloudmountain

Thanks for the best BOL of the day.

” Coyotes are SUPER smart. Wolves are big, ferocious and fearless. WHAT a mixture. The hyrid coy wolves are, of course, doomed.

THANK GOD the Clintons only had one child.”


93 posted on 03/09/2014 5:08:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Always a pleasure.


94 posted on 03/09/2014 5:09:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Salamander
I had a distant cousin in the Yucatan who had a baby ocelot for a pet.

I'm sorry...that "kitty" could RIP one's face off if s/he got ticked off.
MUCH better to let the wild cats and dogs STAY in the wild, no matter HOW CUTE they are as kitties and pups.

95 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:22 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Forgotten Amendments

“how would a half-wolf be in Virginia? I know we got coyotes. But where’d the wolf half come from?”

They may have bought a tour book about the Appalachian Trail and headed south in the winter to avoid the Gorebull warming.

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Appalachian-Trail-Virginias-Edition/dp/0811710661/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y#reader_0811710661


96 posted on 03/09/2014 5:21:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Years ago, before the DNR caved and let people shoot them, a pack of them backed my elderly dad down a ridge.

He went 300 yards, backwards, over treacherous, rocky ground until he got to his truck and grabbed a rifle.

As soon as they saw the gun, they _took off_.

They intended to grab him.

When they first came here in the early 90s, they stood by cows and ewes, waiting for the babies being born and ate them while they were still in the placentas.

Farmers were livid but they were protected, having been imported to deal with over population of deer, which they totally ignored in favor of livestock and pets.

Some waited for the go ahead to legally shoot them, others didn’t.

I was only very lucky that my ridiculous fence kept them away from my dogs and goats.


97 posted on 03/09/2014 5:27:26 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Grampa Dave

We just have regular mostly scrawny western coyotes around here. I don’t really mind their presence but when they come through our yard I bang on a window or go out and yell at them to keep them on the defensive. I’ve tried on numerous occasions to sneak out and take a shot at them with a BB gun but no matter how quietly and quickly I get out there they will have shut up and gotten out of sight.


98 posted on 03/09/2014 5:27:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: cloudmountain

People come up with some wonderfully stupid ideas that, I reckon, must have seemed good, at the time.

:-\


99 posted on 03/09/2014 5:29:15 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Grampa Dave

LOL


100 posted on 03/09/2014 5:29:38 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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