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Courtney Love claims to have found missing plane (Malaysia)
SF Chronicle.com ^ | 3 17 14 | Aldin Vaziri

Posted on 03/17/2014 5:22:40 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

Call off the search for Flight 370! Former Hole singer Courtney Love is pretty sure she has found the location of the missing Malaysian plane over a patch of ocean off the coast of Vietnam by using satellite images and even posted its co-ordinates on Facebook and Twitter with a helpful diagram (below).

“I’m no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick,” she said. “[It's] like a mile away Pulau Perak, where they ‘last’ tracked it 5°39’08.5″N 98°50’38.0″E but what do I know?”

Flight 370 vanished early March 8 while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board. Authorities recently expanded the search deep into the northern and southern hemispheres. But what do they know?

Speaking to New York Magazine‘s Daily Intelligencer column, Love explained her findings.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Travel; UFO's
KEYWORDS: 777; china; courtneylove; facebook; iran; layofftheheroin; malaysia; mh370; missingplane; oilrig; oldbarhags; southchinasea; vietnam; waronterror
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Bizarro....
1 posted on 03/17/2014 5:22:40 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: Perdogg

Hollyweird ping


2 posted on 03/17/2014 5:23:59 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Years and years of drugs and alcohol.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Wouldn’t that embarrass the authorities if it were true?


4 posted on 03/17/2014 5:24:36 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

No weirder than the rest of the story of this plane, I’m afraid.


5 posted on 03/17/2014 5:24:41 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Tell her to stick with singing. Her chances are better there ... :-) ...


6 posted on 03/17/2014 5:25:42 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Smells like teen spirits.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 5:25:57 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It would be a fitting end to this crazy incident.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 5:26:05 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; a fool in paradise

Instant resuscitation of dead career! Details on Entertainment Tonight this evening.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 5:26:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

She’s taking credit for someone else’s find.

This map image had been widely posted several days ago, only then it was in the Malacca Straight.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 5:27:53 PM PDT by tahoeblue
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

she did not use remote viewing?


11 posted on 03/17/2014 5:29:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I thought FReepers were informed? This Tomnod.com image has been brought to the attention of search parties and taken quite seriously. Perhaps Love spotted it, but thousands of other Tomnod.com analysts have flagged it too, well before her.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 5:30:52 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Satire surely???????


13 posted on 03/17/2014 5:31:25 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Who needs experts when we have celebrities?


14 posted on 03/17/2014 5:31:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: RginTN

It was posted by NY Mag & picked up by SF Chronicle....


15 posted on 03/17/2014 5:34:10 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: GeronL
she did not use remote viewing?

I would have expected her to claim she's "channeling" Amelia Earhart.

16 posted on 03/17/2014 5:35:12 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; a fool in paradise
I think I'll wait for the definitive word from LiLo!

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(What an excuse to post it again!)

17 posted on 03/17/2014 5:37:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

How she got her name;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI4GG8btnKo


18 posted on 03/17/2014 5:39:56 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Will Sheila Jackson Lee ask her to testify?


19 posted on 03/17/2014 5:41:19 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The, ummm, Hole plane?


20 posted on 03/17/2014 5:43:12 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

*sigh* Courtney, Courtney, Courtney.....

Meanwhile I found this:

“Chris Goodfellow, an experienced pilot, offers via Google+ a very different sort of explanation. Far from carrying out an elaborate scheme, he says, the pilots may have been caught by surprise by an inflight fire, a major systems failure, or some other genuine emergency. At that point they called on the reflex nearly all pilots develop: the constantly updated awareness of where the nearest airport is, if they should suddenly need to get back to the ground. As he puts it:

We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don’t want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do.

When trouble arose, Goodfellow says, the pilots headed for what they knew to be the nearest very long runway, with an unobstructed over-water approach, on the Malaysian island of Pulau Langkawi. (Pulau means “island.”) Here’s the Google Earth idea of how the Langkawi runway might look in daylight, although the plane was of course approaching at night. That runway is 13,000 feet long — enormous.

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Tintin and a disappearing airplane ( Tintin Wikia )

I rejoin the Internet after a day away to find no additional hard evidence about the fate of Malaysia Air flight 370, but a number of new rumors and possibilities. To run through a few:

1) The “Radar Shadow” Hypothesis. Many, many readers have sent in links to a post early today by Keith Ledgerwood. He suggests that the Malaysian plane might have avoided radar detection by sneaking up on and deliberately flying right next to another 777, so that radar operators would see only a single blip from this ad-hoc formation flight.

You can read the intriguing details for yourself, but the crucial points are:

The other plane, a Singapore Airlines flight en route to Spain, would not have known the Malaysia flight was right behind it, because its onboard collision-warning system (called TCAS) senses other aircraft by their transponder signals. Since MH 370 had its transponders turned off, the Singapore TCAS system would have nothing to work with — and would get no warning from ground-based radar operators, who would not realize they were looking at two planes.
Meanwhile, MH 370 could creep very close to the Singapore plane without crashing into it, because the Singapore transponders were still working, and would broadcast its position to the Malaysian plane. (Plus, in the night sky the Malaysia pilots could see the other plane’s green, red, and white navigation lights as it flew along ahead of them.)
After going as far as it wanted in the Singapore airplane’s shadow, MH 370 could peel off at some point and head toward its intended destination.

Is this possible? At this point, when no normal expectations have panned out, I suppose almost any conjecture must be entertained.

Is it likely? Or even plausible? Neither, in my view.

Apart from the general rococo-ness of the plotting, this interpretation rests on a piece of evidence that I view in a very different way from what’s implied in the post. Keith Ledgerwood notes that the two planes followed exactly the same course across a series of aerial way points (”intersections” with 5-letter names like IGREX and VAMPI) at very close to the same time. Isn’t this suggestive of something strange?

Actually, not. On many heavily traveled air corridors, planes will be sent along exactly the same sequence of way points at intervals of a few minutes. (If you listening to Air Traffic Control near a major airport, you’ll hear one plane after another receive the same routing instructions.) I view it as routine rather than exceptional that planes might have crossed the same sequence of intersections.

So maybe this will turn out to mean something — and if so, all respect to Mr. Ledgerwood. My bet is that this will be another interesting-but-fanciful interpretation, and that the cause will prove to be something else.

2) The Pulau Langkawi possibility. Chris Goodfellow, an experienced pilot, offers via Google+ a very different sort of explanation. Far from carrying out an elaborate scheme, he says, the pilots may have been caught by surprise by an inflight fire, a major systems failure, or some other genuine emergency. At that point they called on the reflex nearly all pilots develop: the constantly updated awareness of where the nearest airport is, if they should suddenly need to get back to the ground. As he puts it:

‘We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don’t want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do.’

When trouble arose, Goodfellow says, the pilots headed for what they knew to be the nearest very long runway, with an unobstructed over-water approach, on the Malaysian island of Pulau Langkawi. (Pulau means “island.”) Here’s the Google Earth idea of how the Langkawi runway might look in daylight, although the plane was of course approaching at night. That runway is 13,000 feet long — enormous.

Goodfellow’s view is notable for the light it casts on the MH 370 flight crew. Far from being villains, schemers, or the objects of a hijacking plan, he says they were in fact heroes, struggling until the last to save their aircraft, themselves, and the 237 other souls on board. Referring to the senior pilot, he says:

‘This pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make that immediate turn back to the closest safe airport....

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing - you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible....

Smart pilot. Just didn’t have the time.’

Goodfellow says he is certain this is what happened: “No doubt in my mind.” I think there’s doubt about everything concerning this flight. But his explanation makes better sense than anything else....”

It’s on The Atlantic site, under the title “Malaysia 370, Day 10: One Fanciful Hypothesis, and Another That Begins to Make Sense”.

And to be honest, Mr. Goodfellow’s hypothesis makes a good deal of sense.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 5:44:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

So are we talking about Gilligan s Island here?


22 posted on 03/17/2014 5:44:58 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Love Beavis & Butthead!!!!


23 posted on 03/17/2014 5:45:39 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“Rock stars ... is there anything they don’t know?”


24 posted on 03/17/2014 5:45:42 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

*sigh* Courtney, Courtney, Courtney.....

Meanwhile I found this:

“Chris Goodfellow, an experienced pilot, offers via Google+ a very different sort of explanation. Far from carrying out an elaborate scheme, he says, the pilots may have been caught by surprise by an inflight fire, a major systems failure, or some other genuine emergency. At that point they called on the reflex nearly all pilots develop: the constantly updated awareness of where the nearest airport is, if they should suddenly need to get back to the ground. As he puts it:

‘We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don’t want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do.’

When trouble arose, Goodfellow says, the pilots headed for what they knew to be the nearest very long runway, with an unobstructed over-water approach, on the Malaysian island of Pulau Langkawi. (Pulau means “island.”) Here’s the Google Earth idea of how the Langkawi runway might look in daylight, although the plane was of course approaching at night. That runway is 13,000 feet long — enormous.

Goodfellow’s view is notable for the light it casts on the MH 370 flight crew. Far from being villains, schemers, or the objects of a hijacking plan, he says they were in fact heroes, struggling until the last to save their aircraft, themselves, and the 237 other souls on board. Referring to the senior pilot, he says:

‘This pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make that immediate turn back to the closest safe airport....

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing - you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible....

Smart pilot. Just didn’t have the time.’

Goodfellow says he is certain this is what happened: “No doubt in my mind.” I think there’s doubt about everything concerning this flight. But his explanation makes better sense than anything else....”

It’s on The Atlantic site, under the title “Malaysia 370, Day 10: One Fanciful Hypothesis, and Another That Begins to Make Sense”.

And to be honest, Mr. Goodfellow’s hypothesis makes a good deal of sense.

Oh, and I edited it.....sorry about the repetition in the previous post!


25 posted on 03/17/2014 5:47:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Kackikat

No.....it’s a major international airport. 12,500 foot runway.

They just didn’t make it.


26 posted on 03/17/2014 5:48:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Courtney Love. If you help me find my keys, we'll drive out...
27 posted on 03/17/2014 5:49:44 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Kackikat
This is the island Mr. Goodfellow is referring to, though seen in daytime:
28 posted on 03/17/2014 5:49:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

So Courtney Love is wrong...hmmm. (sarc) Thanks.

Where do you think this plane is?


29 posted on 03/17/2014 5:50:57 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I would think if that happened (that the plane landed safely, somewhere other than its intended destination, with no terrorism), someone would have been contacted by now.

Were they completely out of fuel? Nobody had a cell phone or an air phone they could charge?


30 posted on 03/17/2014 5:51:10 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I would think if that happened (that the plane landed safely, somewhere other than its intended destination, with no terrorism), someone would have been contacted by now.

Were they completely out of fuel? Nobody had a cell phone or an air phone they could charge?


31 posted on 03/17/2014 5:51:11 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
good find! /s
32 posted on 03/17/2014 5:51:54 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
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To: scrabblehack

They probably crashed. Most likely, the plane is on the bottom of the sea. They just haven’t found it yet, but sooner or later, they probably will.

Granted, the sea doesn’t always yield her secrets. So we may well never know for sure what happened.


33 posted on 03/17/2014 5:55:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; a fool in paradise

My prayers are being answered. (That it’s never found, and that all kinds of crazies will entertain us for decades with theories.)


34 posted on 03/17/2014 5:57:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Kackikat

That island is Northwest Malaysia; if they were on approach in a burning plane, they probably crashed somewhere in the northern Malacca Straits.

They just haven’t found the crash site yet. But eventually, I think they will.

Mr. Goodfellow’s hypothesis makes the most sense, and remember what happened to South African Airways Flight 295, which suffered an aboard fire believed to have ultimately caused the plane to break up after the fire burned through the hull.

Now, to be fair, they found that one pretty quick - within 12 hours.

So there’s a mystery here, but my instinct tells me it crashed at sea and it’s just a matter of finding it.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 5:59:54 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Quite possible yes.

I don’t know much about planes but #21’s first scenario seems more likely than that second scenario.

Since jumbo jets can be used as weapons the plane has to be tracked down even if finding it is unlikely. Terrorism cannot be counted out.


36 posted on 03/17/2014 6:01:24 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Either Courtney is addled or the SF Chronicle is addled, or most likely both. The site is nowhere near Viet Nam and has been online since early Saturday, at least.

It *is* very near the spot where Malaysia originally claimed last radar contact in the Malacca Straits.


37 posted on 03/17/2014 6:03:32 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Either Courtney is addled or the SF Chronicle is addled, or most likely both. The site is nowhere near Viet Nam and has been online since early Saturday, at least.

It *is* very near the spot where Malaysia originally claimed last radar contact in the Malacca Straits.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 6:04:16 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: scrabblehack

Of course....it’s been proven all too horrifically that jumbo jets can indeed be used as gigantic, piloted cruise missiles.

So finding it, either at the bottom of the sea or in some obscure location, is definitely a top priority.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 6:04:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

This non-expert is gratified to hear a pilot expert agrees with her belief. It is an accident.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 6:09:18 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Revolting cat!

And...thank you!


41 posted on 03/17/2014 6:09:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Hedy Lamarr II.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 6:11:15 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

You sound the most plausible, because I think some satellite or radar would have picked up the plane, if it made it to Pakistan or one of the countries they are talking about.
The pilot seemed to be the most suspect, if it was a hijacked plane, but that does not mean the co pilot was in compliance....crashing makes more sense, even if he tried to hi jack.


43 posted on 03/17/2014 6:11:22 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: cuban leaf

That’s Hedley.


44 posted on 03/17/2014 6:12:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kackikat

The most crucial things - aside from the plane itself - that need to be flight are the Flight Data Recorder and the Cockpit Voice Recorder.

Provided they survived, that should pretty much reveal everything. In the meantime, sure.....it’s fun to speculate. Everyone loves a mystery; as a famous fictional detective once put it, it’s good for “the little grey cells”.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 6:13:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Lindsey was such and adorable little girl... so sad.


46 posted on 03/17/2014 6:15:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
If the aircraft crashed in the southern most part of Burma, it'll never be found. There's a vast area of marshland with tributaries galore.

The oil rig worker's sighting could've been meant the aircraft hit ground or marsh area in deep south Burma/Thailand.

47 posted on 03/17/2014 6:17:30 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: dfwgator

That’s Hedley.


“A laurel, and hardy handshake...”.


48 posted on 03/17/2014 6:19:11 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Amen on the suspense of it all.


49 posted on 03/17/2014 6:23:09 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

She’s got the same license to speculate wildly as any other self-recognized prophet I’ve been watching over the last week, both here and abroad.


50 posted on 03/17/2014 6:57:37 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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